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At least your daughter uses the best phone experience available! :apple:

No question iphone is the best choice for a teenage girl. Girls love iphones for sure, and the majority of people I see using them are females. iphones are pretty, have great emoji's, and are basic and simplistic, and you can even get adorable cases for them.

The issue here is what's the best phone for an adult male? Then the question becomes a little harder, as iphone excels in some areas, while Android kicks butt in others.
 
Bit of a non-sequiter, but anyway, are you suggesting I'm wrong in my assessment? Apple seems to be acknowledging as much if the rumors of the coming bigger screens prove true. Sounds like they are starting to get the message, at least in that area. Let's hope they keep up the good work. No reason they need to stick with dark ages technology and features in important areas just out of some odd pride or whatever. If were an Apple stockholder, I'd be praying they copy some of the more obvious advantages of Android to dramatically increase their market share.

Yes.
An example:
I am stating Apple is neither stupid nor stubborn. You may not like their business practices or even their products, that's fine.
Doesn't make the company idiotic.

I may not like a McDonalds's McRib sandwich, yet to then refer to McDonald's as stupid places that label squarely on me rather than them for making such an inference.
 
Those decisions are different for different people, but it doesn't mean that different people are somehow crazy, or addicts, or anything like that, simply because someone might disagree with what works for them vs. someone else.

True in some ways. different strokes for different folks, I guess. But when people start denying something is a flaw, or saying "I don't mind the extra steps needed", and "why would you want a feature like that??", well, thats where we veer into crazy addict land.

I'll sit here and tell you ten ways Android sucks, and make no apologies or rationalizations for it either. But I'm finding that kind of honestly and objectivity lacking in many when it comes to the iphone….

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Yes.
An example:
I am stating Apple is neither stupid nor stubborn. You may not like their business practices or even their products, that's fine.
Doesn't make the company idiotic.

So Apple is perfect and can do on wrong and has never made a wrong move or failed to act on something they should have?
 
True in some ways. different strokes for different folks, I guess. But when people start denying something is a flaw, or saying "I don't mind the extra steps needed", and "why would you want a feature like that??", well, thats where we veer into crazy addict land.

I'll sit here and tell you ten ways Android sucks, and make no apologies or rationalizations for it either. But I'm finding that kind of honestly and objectivity lacking in many when it comes to the iphone….

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So Apple is perfect and can do on wrong and has never made a wrong move or failed to act on something they should have?
Well, something that is a flaw for someone might not be that in the eyes of someone else who either doesn't really use that feature or uses it in a different way and doesn't necessarily need something different or more. That doesn't mean that someone else can't see it as lacking or even actually be a flaw as far as what they need or want, but it also doesn't necessarily mean it's something universally bad or broken.

While there are people who will defend something here and there because of this or that, there are certainly quite a few of those who will simply explain what their use is like and/or what they think is behind a particular design/functionality without necessarily saying it's the best thing ever and can't be better, but also without going crazy about it and how bad it is and how bad Apple is and how it's all horrible.

There's one side and the other side, and then there's the spectrum between the two where a lot of people fall into. Things can always be better in some way, but not everyone gets heated (or even close to it) one way or the other about those things.
 
So Apple is perfect and can do no wrong and has never made a wrong move or failed to act on something they should have?

What an amazingly misguided leap in logic!
It's one ("Stupid") or the other ("Perfect")?
That's a child's reasoning.

Honestly, before the discussion continues. . . do you truly believe those are a company's only two descriptive options?
 
Apple would sell twice as many phones as they do now if they weren't too stubborn, or stupid, to adopt some obviously beneficial features. The reason they alienate users like me is because of utter stupidities in thier design. They could pretty much attract EVERYBODY if they just make some obvious and much needed changes and leave Android in the dust. If they do go bigger in the fall, its an acknowledgement that their way isn't the best and a step in the right direction to making their phones better.

And I think you must be the only person who uses the timer function more than the alarm clock… Nice shortcut for those of you on a track team, but most of the rest of the world like to go sleep and wake up at certain times…

And it's "irrelevant if something takes longer or not?" Okay. Another outlier here…

Now, tell me, am I dreaming, or is there no way to turn off the vibration option for the alarm clock without doing some stupid workaround? Surely they would not have designed a phone with a flaw like that, would they?

I would like to point out something maybe not very obvious. For security reasons my phone locks after one minutes. I am into my phone very, very often. The amount of time I save using touch id to enter my password, more than makes up for any supposed inefficiencies in an IOS process vs an android process. If in fact there is a way to measure this on a galactic basis.

We all use our phones slightly differently. As for the comment about an outlier, I do not think I am an outlier as my alarm clock is my fitbit. :)

As for the reason the alarm vibrates is in settings->sounds vibrate on ring is turned on.
 
That's one potential plan I'm considering. Wait for the 6, pray that they fix even just 2 or 3 of the 6 things I most hate about the iphone, and then compare that to the best Android on the market and make the choice then. There is always hope they will say something like "gee, would it kill us to do something obviously useful like add a notification light? Nah, so let's put on the 6!", isn't there?

Like i said if you are waiting to fix all of these "problems" you see in the current IOS platform why not get an android with your notification light?
(A note on the notification light, you can enable the flash on the camera to flash when you get incoming notifications on iPhone, i find it useless.)

This is my point, why wait for those things you want when there is already an android phone that will fill your needs? Why come to IOS? why would want to if it doesn't have what you are looking for in a phone?
 
I think that's what android does, but then you have to remember dad.

Oh... The thread starter was saying that favourites were a broken version of speed dial...

I haven't bothered using favorites myself, since the recent calls shows me what I want most of the time. But I did see a Samsung phone (maybe Android?), the other day, having a feature where the most dialled numbers were automatically tracked and shown, which might be a bit better than the recent calls. Or, I could see times when you want to call a one off recent number and times when you'd want to call people that you call all the time, and why bother having to say who you call all the time when the phone should know that itself. The user was apparently hand dialling each time, and I could see the phone didn't know that hand dialled numbers were the same so was duplicating them. Some had the contact name associated and some without, so maybe incoming versus outgoing calls. Anyways, it was surprising how it didn't do something so basic correctly.
 
Touch ID on 5s is a killer feature

When it's working as designed, Touch ID is a killer feature/Time Saver. I now set my sleep lock within 1 min. I use my iPhone constantly and now with TID waking and unlocking is no longer a necessary inconvenience with a passcode. Just press-hold and it immediately unlocks. One hand use works great too.
 
Why are these treads all of a sudden coming out of the woodwork? This is the second one this week with someone coming from an Android phone, trying to figure something out on their new to them iPhone, then blasting the iPhone because it can't do this and/or that minor problem and its user base calling them cult members and/or fanboys. It seems the OP is the same way when it comes to Android, and the die-hard Android users are the same way.

Now, I'm sure the OP is going to come back saying most Android users aren't like that, which I'm sure is true since most of them don't care what phone they are using. And not in a good way either. Most of them probably have the Walmart Android special since you can pick one up pre-paid for ~$100 versus full retail for an iPhone (~$650).

Honestly, the last time I used speed dialing had to have been over 7 years ago, WAY before I got my iPhone. When I bought my enV3 at the time, I found no use in setting it up since I found it easier to just go into the call log and redial. Nowadays, if I don't use Siri, I use Spotlight to find the contacts. I never even thought of using speed dial on the iPhone as there was no use for it. Speed dial will hold, what, 8-9 numbers max? The iPhones contacts will hold millions, maybe even billions of contacts.

Looking back, speed dialing was invented so you didn't have to punch in or remember the full number on a touch tone phone. Nowadays, you can use Google Now or S-Voice, or Siri to call someone, or if you don't like that you can search for it.
 
Why are these treads all of a sudden coming out of the woodwork? This is the second one this week with someone coming from an Android phone, trying to figure something out on their new to them iPhone, then blasting the iPhone because it can't do this and/or that minor problem and its user base calling them cult members and/or fanboys. It seems the OP is the same way when it comes to Android, and the die-hard Android users are the same way.

Now, I'm sure the OP is going to come back saying most Android users aren't like that, which I'm sure is true since most of them don't care what phone they are using. And not in a good way either. Most of them probably have the Walmart Android special since you can pick one up pre-paid for ~$100 versus full retail for an iPhone (~$650).

Honestly, the last time I used speed dialing had to have been over 7 years ago, WAY before I got my iPhone. When I bought my enV3 at the time, I found no use in setting it up since I found it easier to just go into the call log and redial. Nowadays, if I don't use Siri, I use Spotlight to find the contacts. I never even thought of using speed dial on the iPhone as there was no use for it. Speed dial will hold, what, 8-9 numbers max? The iPhones contacts will hold millions, maybe even billions of contacts.

Looking back, speed dialing was invented so you didn't have to punch in or remember the full number on a touch tone phone. Nowadays, you can use Google Now or S-Voice, or Siri to call someone, or if you don't like that you can search for it.

The thing is you can't really use Siri whilst standing on 34st and 7 ave for example...if you can even use a mobile phone at that location.

The thing is the OP called some of us "outliers" because we are willing to put up with inefficiencies in IOS as "OP sees them". Maybe an iphone doesn't work well with OPs style; as I said apple stock is neither going up or down due to that thinking.

5S has other advantages such as touch id and frequent software updates. That iphone 4 is supported through IOS 7 is pretty amazing.
 
As I've said, there are many flaws in Android as well, and I'm not afraid to admit them. But when it comes to iphone users, there is weird closed-minded reluctance to call a spade a spade and say "yeah, iphone sucks in this regard", but instead of lot of defensiveness.

iphone is potentially the best phone on the market if they'd just improve things that EVERYONE would enjoy, even you fanboys. Until they do, they will lose many potential customers by their stubborn refusal to make such changes.
 
(A note on the notification light, you can enable the flash on the camera to flash when you get incoming notifications on iPhone, i find it useless.)

This is my point, why wait for those things you want when there is already an android phone that will fill your needs? Why come to IOS? why would want to if it doesn't have what you are looking for in a phone?

Corrrect. The notification light that flashes a couple of times on the back of the iphone is useless. What's needed is one that flashes continuously, or better get glows steadily, until a message is retrieved. But instead, many of us are constantly picking up our phones and unlocking them to check if we have any messages. A good notification light could make this behavior unnecessary and be a game changer in that regard.

And once again, the reason I'm attracted to IOS is because it does many things so very well. I think some in this thread are so prickly and defensive about iphone that they only here my critiques of it and not my praise of it. It's a fantastic phone in many ways, and if it just just fix some of these weaknesses and design flaws in iphone 6 or in future models, it will demolish the competition. But right now, the iphone 5S vs something like the LG G2 is a toss-up. Don't you all want Apple to go just a little bit further and make a near-perfect phone?

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As for the reason the alarm vibrates is in settings->sounds vibrate on ring is turned on.

Yes. But even on my crappy old LG Lucid 840, I can toggle away this annoyance with a flick of the physical volume keys and back again if I want to in a split second. I don't need to fumble around in settings each time, and then again each time I want to change it back for daytime.

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I still think that the iPhone 4 is physically built better than the soft metal iPhone 5s.

It does seem very nicely built. I also think it's proportions look better than the tall and narrow 5.
 
Corrrect. The notification light that flashes a couple of times on the back of the iphone is useless. What's needed is one that flashes continuously, or better get glows steadily, until a message is retrieved. But instead, many of us are constantly picking up our phones and unlocking them to check if we have any messages. A good notification light could make this behavior unnecessary and be a game changer in that regard.

Really? Either the phone is in my pocket where it vibrates or rings. Or it is sitting on my desk where the entire screen lights up when an incoming notification occurs.. or I can turn on flash notification flip my phone upside down and get notified that way.. But how is having a notification light a game changer when we already have phones that alert us on the lock screen and vibrate and ring?

In reply to your other comment, it seems like the things you really want are already on an Android so I just don't see why you would consider IOS for your preferences, I highly doubt that a notification light is in high demand and if you find it that useful their is probably an android phone that has it and I highly doubt Apple will add this feature anytime soon. Sorry to keep restating myself but it boggles my mind why you are on this forum right now...
 
So obviously a troll thread. Very amusing read though.

My favourite quote so far:

"No question iphone is the best choice for a teenage girl. Girls love iphones for sure, and the majority of people I see using them are females. iphones are pretty, have great emoji's, and are basic and simplistic, and you can even get adorable cases for them."

Hahahahahaha.
 
As I've said, there are many flaws in Android as well, and I'm not afraid to admit them. But when it comes to iphone users, there is weird closed-minded reluctance to call a spade a spade and say "yeah, iphone sucks in this regard", but instead of lot of defensiveness.

iphone is potentially the best phone on the market if they'd just improve things that EVERYONE would enjoy, even you fanboys. Until they do, they will lose many potential customers by their stubborn refusal to make such changes.
Seems like we keep on coming back to this point, but plenty of people who would try to help and/or explain this or that about the iPhone would still pretty clearly mention that it would be better if it did this or that instead or in addition. So, it seems like the "weird closed-minded reluctance" isn't really quite there in reality when it comes to quite a few people--certainly not everyone, but far from no one--and seems to be more of a generalization/stereotype that's not really supported by a lot of posts in this thread or another similar one that you had earlier. If you call all that defensiveness, then certainly there seems to be a lot of unnecessary and misplaced hostility from the other side (since it probably seems more fun to call out people and essentially refer to them as "fanboys", "cult members", "drug addicts", etc.).

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Corrrect. The notification light that flashes a couple of times on the back of the iphone is useless. What's needed is one that flashes continuously, or better get glows steadily, until a message is retrieved. But instead, many of us are constantly picking up our phones and unlocking them to check if we have any messages. A good notification light could make this behavior unnecessary and be a game changer in that regard.
And, look, there's a very good comment that I and quite a few others (although not everyone) agree with and hope will become reality in some fashion. When taken on its own without other additional commentary it's nicely worded and gets the point across quite well, and all without any hostility or name calling which is completely unnecessary and is generally misplaced.
 
As I've said, there are many flaws in Android as well, and I'm not afraid to admit them. But when it comes to iphone users, there is weird closed-minded reluctance to call a spade a spade and say "yeah, iphone sucks in this regard", but instead of lot of defensiveness.

iphone is potentially the best phone on the market if they'd just improve things that EVERYONE would enjoy, even you fanboys. Until they do, they will lose many potential customers by their stubborn refusal to make such changes.

You come on here asking questions, and then wind up by seemingly acting like a troll, with "fanboy" name calling. And at the same time acting like an Android fanboy.

I can't speak for apple, but I can speak for myself with regard to what I find to be the iphones strengths and weaknesses. My list of top 10 things I hate about the iphone is irrelevant to you. And what you view as closed-minded are people not caring one way or another.

If you are here to solicit feedback on how lousy IOS is, you have come to the wrong place.
 
Really? Either the phone is in my pocket where it vibrates or rings. Or it is sitting on my desk where the entire screen lights up when an incoming notification occurs.. or I can turn on flash notification flip my phone upside down and get notified that way..?

Really? Your phone has a notification light or some other visual signal that alerts you to all calls and texts that may have come in when you were away from the phone for awhile? If so, that would be awesome. If I can get an iphone that does this, that may be the final push I need for this phone.

I highly doubt that a notification light is in high demand

Really? Most of the other companies seem to think it's a feature in demand since they offer it and advertise it. Apple may be too stubborn to get there with the 6, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get there by the 8 or so.


So obviously a troll thread. Very amusing read though.

My favourite quote so far:

"No question iphone is the best choice for a teenage girl. Girls love iphones for sure, and the majority of people I see using them are females. iphones are pretty, have great emoji's, and are basic and simplistic, and you can even get adorable cases for them."

Is there some part of this you dispute? Which part exactly?

[/COLOR]And, look, there's a very good comment that I and quite a few others (although not everyone) agree with and hope will become reality in some fashion.

Well, talk to JeEw about this. He seems to suggest a notfication is not necessary (while also claiming his phone already has this feature.)

If you are here to solicit feedback on how lousy IOS is, you have come to the wrong place.

I came here hoping to get some honest acknowledgments about what the drawbacks of iphone might be, and to weigh those against the drawbacks of the Android. Instead what I've gotten is denial, defensiveness, and a touch of delusion. (At the same time, there are a couple of helpful posters who have provided some good information which I appreciate, so I don't want to lump them in with the rest of the crowd here.)

Did you guys secretly work on the design of the iphone and that's why you have this prickly attitude? I'm the first one to point out the flaws of my own Android, and in Android forums I've generally encountered objective and honest appraisal of a devices pros and cons, and with no one taking things so personally. But this place seems more like a fan club than a forum.

As I've said 10 times so far, the iphone is a wonderful phone in many ways. If I can acknowledge that, why can't you guys also acknowledge that iphone does some really stupid things and lacks some very basic features? Don't worry -- Steve Jobs is dead and isn't reading the thread, so you're free to speak the truth.
 
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Really? Your phone has a notification light or some other visual signal that alerts you to all calls and texts that may have come in when you were away from the phone for awhile? If so, that would be awesome. If I can get an iphone that does this, that may be the final push I need for this phone.



Really? Most of the other companies seem to think it's a feature in demand since they offer it and advertise it. Apple may be too stubborn to get there with the 6, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get there by the 8 or so.




Is there some part of this you dispute? Which part exactly?



Well, talk to JeEw about this. He seems to suggest a notfication is not necessary (while also claiming his phone already has this feature.)



I came here hoping to get some honest acknowledgments about what the drawbacks of iphone might be, and to weigh those against the drawbacks of the Android. Instead what I've gotten is denial, defensiveness, and a touch of delusion. (At the same time, there are a couple of helpful posters who have provided some good information which I appreciate, so I don't want to lump them in with the rest of the crowd here.)

Did you guys secretly work on the design of the iphone and that's why you have this prickly attitude? I'm the first one to point out the flaws of my own Android, and in Android forums I've generally encountered objective and honest appraisal of a devices pros and cons, and with no one taking things so personally. But this place seems more like a fan club than a forum.

As I've said 10 times so far, the iphone is a wonderful phone in many ways. If I can acknowledge that, why can't you guys also acknowledge that iphone does some really stupid things and lacks some very basic features? Don't worry -- Steve Jobs is dead and isn't reading the thread, so you're free to speak the truth.
Honestly I'm not really sure what threads and posts you might be looking at--it seems that the majority of the replies were helpful or at least attempted to be helpful, and those that explained how things are with the iPhone or what might be behind it, didn't really do it to justify it as much as just to provide some information about it for more context, and perhaps only a couple or so actually might have been what you might call defensive in a way.

And not sure where delusional comes in at all, although it's comments like that about people that turns people away and then in turn become more defensive since who out there likes to be refreed to or stereotypically lumped into some group mindlessly and insultingly being referred to as "delusional", "part of a cult", "drug addicts", etc.

Maybe if the completely unnecessary, misplaced, and rather in poor taste insulting commentary about people would have been cut out then you'd actually be getting more of what you are looking for, rather than actually undermining that very thing yourself with that extra pointless commentary about people.
 
Really? Your phone has a notification light or some other visual signal that alerts you to all calls and texts that may have come in when you were away from the phone for awhile? If so, that would be awesome. If I can get an iphone that does this, that may be the final push I need for this phone.


Really? Most of the other companies seem to think it's a feature in demand since they offer it and advertise it. Apple may be too stubborn to get there with the 6, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get there by the 8 or so.




Is there some part of this you dispute? Which part exactly?



Well, talk to JeEw about this. He seems to suggest a notfication is not necessary (while also claiming his phone already has it.

Well no I am giving a logical viewpoint on why Apple probably has not put a notification light on the phone. 1. Its clearly not in enough demand or it would have made it into an iPhone
2. I explained why there might not be much demand because i just don't see a time when it would ever be handy, i dont know about your current phone but my iphone lock screen turns on automatically when a notification is pushed to my phone.

And as i said if you (the minority) as far as i am concerned need this feature this badly go grab an android phone.

I don't get why you take this as me being a fanboy when i simply gave a pretty good reason for why a notification light has not and probably will not make it to an iPhone its not useful to
enough people to justify inclusion.

Really? Every samsung, sony and Nokia commercial i have yet to see any notification light being advertised, I thought those died with the blackberry ;)


You come to a forum and expect everyone to have the same drawbacks/positives as you see them, but the thing is everyone has a different viewpoint. Believe it or not your view on what you see useful might not be the majority D:
 
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Really? Your phone has a notification light or some other visual signal that alerts you to all calls and texts that may have come in when you were away from the phone for awhile? If so, that would be awesome. If I can get an iphone that does this, that may be the final push I need for this phone.



Really? Most of the other companies seem to think it's a feature in demand since they offer it and advertise it. Apple may be too stubborn to get there with the 6, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get there by the 8 or so.




Is there some part of this you dispute? Which part exactly?



Well, talk to JeEw about this. He seems to suggest a notfication is not necessary (while also claiming his phone already has this feature.)



I came here hoping to get some honest acknowledgments about what the drawbacks of iphone might be, and to weigh those against the drawbacks of the Android. Instead what I've gotten is denial, defensiveness, and a touch of delusion. (At the same time, there are a couple of helpful posters who have provided some good information which I appreciate, so I don't want to lump them in with the rest of the crowd here.)

Did you guys secretly work on the design of the iphone and that's why you have this prickly attitude? I'm the first one to point out the flaws of my own Android, and in Android forums I've generally encountered objective and honest appraisal of a devices pros and cons, and with no one taking things so personally. But this place seems more like a fan club than a forum.

As I've said 10 times so far, the iphone is a wonderful phone in many ways. If I can acknowledge that, why can't you guys also acknowledge that iphone does some really stupid things and lacks some very basic features? Don't worry -- Steve Jobs is dead and isn't reading the thread, so you're free to speak the truth.

You are correct of course about iPhone and iOS. Notification light, wish it had it. Speed dial, check. Plus a few other enhancements.

But for what ever reason apple chose to design IOS the way it has and by purchasing an iPhone I have tacitly agreed it's okay by me.

It's irrelevant what IOS doesn't do well, you either make the phone work for you or go android or wp8. We can't change IOS, except via jailbreak, and most here have tried to help and explain aspects of iOS, which in turn has been met by some really off responses like the Steve jobs comment above, which is really a not so subtly phrased dig.

i admit the iPhone does some basic, stupid things...but I don't care. So can we now move on about not acknowledging the obvious.

My next phone is probably going to be the iPhone 6 and I will hand down the iPhone 5s.

In addition, the android forums I've seen are not like you described. Unfortunately there have been some highly opinionated and inflammatory posts, but they have come from you. Like the above.
 
I see how I can arrange/create a new group in icloud, but now how I can add that group to the DND, or exclude the contacts from it. Can you please further elaborate on what you mean? The DND choices on my phone are:

ALLOW CALLS FROM:

Everyone
No one
Favorite

GROUPS
All contacts

So how might this workaround be pulled off exactly?

I've only been skimming this thread, but it doesn't seem to me that you ever returned to this issue. Did you get get it figured out? If not, have you actually tried making sure the group got synced to your phone by viewing it in the Contacts app? When I view this menu in the DND settings I see every group that I've created.

Another option is the use the VIP group. It's primarily a feature of Mail, but it can be used with DND also. To do this open Mail and do the following:
1: Get to the Mailboxes list. Most people will leave Mail open either to the last email they read, or their inbox. In either case, just keep navigating back (using the arrow in the top left) until you can't anymore.

2: Now you'll be looking at all of your inboxes and folders. If you've only setup one email account you may just see the one inbox. Additionally, you'll see some filtered inboxes called "VIP" and "Flagged". Next to VIP you'll see a get info icon (looks like a lower case i inside a circle). Tap this.

3: This will take you to your VIP list, which is probably empty. Tap "Add VIP..."

4: Choose the contact for the person you want to add to your VIP list. Repeat until you've added everyone you want to.

5: Return to the DND call settings in Settings > Do Not Disturb > Allow Calls From.

6: Under Groups you should now see the VIP group. Select it.

Now only calls from members of the VIP group will ring when your phone is in DND. Do note that there will be one other effect of these steps. Emails from those who you add to VIP will have a star next to them in the Mail app. Further, if you look at the VIP inbox in Mail it will only contain emails from those you have designated as a VIP.

Ok, now that that's out of the way, what are you actually looking for? I'm not familiar with how Android phones handle "speed dial". Is it like the feature on regular phones where you store a phone number such that when you hold down 1 for a second or two the phone will just dial whatever that number is?

If that's the case, that seems pretty old fashioned to me. That requires that you actually remember that 1 will dial 555-1212 while 2 will dial 555-1234. I think Favorites is better than that because if I want to dial my wife's office number, I just see her name listed with the description of "work". I'm not left with the dilemma of trying to remember "Did I store her work number as 1, or is that her cell number?"

Honestly, since I have all my contacts setup in my phone I almost never use the keypad to dial a phone number anymore. If I do, it's usually because I'm calling an 800 number or something like that.
 
iPhone is for all ages, besides i think every Apple products are for all ages and unisex thinking.

I dont think and i didn't saw any business or mature man with an android device.
 
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