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It's hard to imagine Apple … raising the price

Raising prices is Apple's bread and butter and the only thing they truly excel at these days.

"Let's add Touchbars which no one asked for" = Price increase.
"Let's add a stupid-looking notch that f's up the screen and call it design" = Price increase.
"Let's make this comp insanely difficult to open so we can sell RAM upgrades with 70% markup" = Price increase.
"Let's take make the base model 32/64 GB for 5 years so 99% of users have to upgrade" = Price increase.
"Let's make it all glass so you have to buy Applecare+" = Price increase.
"Let's focus on accessories and services" = Price increase.
"Let's kill ports and introduce new ones so we can sell dongles and wireless add-ons" = Price increase.

Apple weekly exec meetings go like:
Phil: "Hey Tim, do I get a bonus if I introduce the new Apple monitor starting at $5K?"
Tim: "No; you only get a bonus if you do that AND sell the stand separately for $1K."
Phil: "Deal."

Prove me wrong.
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Dear Lord no! I’m changing iPhone every year, I don’t want to pay for a pair of new buds every time

Sounds like you need a little bit of courage, friend.
 
The fact that they're willing to bundle them shows you the gaping profit margin they have on these things. I shudder to think what the cost of production would be on a pair... They also have analysts telling them, you're phones are too much, you need to cut the cost or include more.
 
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Maybe in 2022 or 2023 when the AirPods ‘Pro’ 2 are out they might bundle regular AirPods 2. Bundling them now would kill a lot of the AirPods 2 and AirPod ‘Pro’ sales.
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The iPhone 11 Pro comes with a fast charger.
The iPhone 11 doesn’t.
 
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How are Bluetooth earphones any more “proper” a replacement for the headphone jack earphones than lightning earphones?
And, like I use bluetooth hearing aids when editing video that in turn has me using the lightning port for my micro SD card reader.
 
Raising prices is Apple's bread and butter and the only thing they truly excel at these days.

"Let's add Touchbars which no one asked for" = Price increase.
"Let's add a stupid-looking notch that f's up the screen and call it design" = Price increase.
"Let's make this comp insanely difficult to open so we can sell RAM upgrades with 70% markup" = Price increase.
"Let's take make the base model 32/64 GB for 5 years so 99% of users have to upgrade" = Price increase.
"Let's make it all glass so you have to buy Applecare+" = Price increase.
"Let's focus on accessories and services" = Price increase.
"Let's kill ports and introduce new ones so we can sell dongles and wireless add-ons" = Price increase.

Apple weekly exec meetings go like:
Phil: "Hey Tim, do I get a bonus if I introduce the new Apple monitor starting at $5K?"
Tim: "No; you only get a bonus if you do that AND sell the stand separately for $1K."
Phil: "Deal."

Prove me wrong.

Their gross margins have actually decreased.

You are also forgetting that you don’t always have to buy the most expensive option of every product that Apple offers. For instance, the series 3 Apple Watch can be had at $199 and the iPhone 11 offers excellent value for money. Likewise, you don’t need to get your adaptors from Apple and last I checked, nobody is forcing you to subscribe to Apple’s services.

Apple products cost more these days because they cost more to make. It’s as simple as that.
 
If they bundle AirPods with iPhone 11S/12 then they should bundle AirPods Pro with the iPhone 11S/12 Pro.

More realistically I think they should do this:
  1. $50 off AirPods/AirPods Pro with iPhone purchase
  2. $100 off AirPods/AirPods Pro with iPhone Pro purchase
  3. Stop including headphones in the box
What will probably actually happen:
  1. iPhone gets no headphones
  2. iPhone Pro gets AirPods
  3. Lots of people will be selling AirPods from their Pros on eBay to discount their AirPods Pro.
 
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Apple has no need to bundle AirPods with the iPhone 12. People are very happily buying them. Apple was also the company that removed the VERY inexpensive Lightning to 3.55 mm adapter the company shipped with its iPhone for years. Anything to cut down on costs is what @TimCook wants.
 
No way, the AirPods are following the same trajectory of the iPod. They do not need to even consider doing this. They might offer "kits" that allow customers to purchase an Apple Watch, new iPhone, and AirPods all in one box with some kind of discount. For people like us who upgrade every year.
 
Not true. Just referencing Apple’s website for my area, I’m looking at the AirPods 2 (W/O wireless charging case), and the earliest delivery is at least a week or more out. They are _not_ widely available, especially during the busiest shopping time of the year right now.

Also, not sure how you would be able to know the AirPods are not widely available, being you’re not from North America, so it makes it a bit difficult to predict that.

FYI...

[The AirPod Pros are showing a delivery date of January 2.]
Apple AirPods 2 are widely available worldwide.
Amazon, third party authorized resellers (like MediaMarkt), every Apple Store in Europe have AirPods available. Stop checking delivery dates and start checking in store availability: you will find they are available everywhere.
AirPods Pro are a different thing... almost no availability in stores and long waiting list for delivery.
 
This is going to be so much fun, next year when Apple releases the new iPhone and no wireless airpods will be included :)
and everybody is going to be so mad at Apple, because someone claimed Apple might do it.
 
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Apple had a choice when they removed the headphone jack: pack in wireless headphones (pro consumer) or get customers to pay for them (pro revenue). They chose the latter. There is no chance that they are going to reverse that decision now.
Sure, because plugging in the wired earphones (EarPods) that shipped with the iPhone into the Lightning port at the bottom instead of the headphone jack at the bottom was such a drag that people felt forced to buy wireless earphones.

Apple played a mind trick with you when they consolidated the headphone jack with the Lightning port and you completely fell for it by accepting the (false) implication that that meant one had to switch to wireless earphones.
 
Apple will never include AirPods in the iPhone's box. It's not like Apple to make this kind of move. Lightning headphones will continue to be included in the box. This same rumor popped up a few years ago with the release of the iPhone X. Never happened, never will.
 
I cant see this happening to be honest. It would raise the cost too much and the phones are already very expensive. Plus they’re making so much money off AirPods it would seem pretty foolish to put a stop on that.
 
Raising prices is Apple's bread and butter and the only thing they truly excel at these days.

"Let's add Touchbars which no one asked for" = Price increase.
"Let's add a stupid-looking notch that f's up the screen and call it design" = Price increase.
"Let's make this comp insanely difficult to open so we can sell RAM upgrades with 70% markup" = Price increase.
"Let's take make the base model 32/64 GB for 5 years so 99% of users have to upgrade" = Price increase.
"Let's make it all glass so you have to buy Applecare+" = Price increase.
"Let's focus on accessories and services" = Price increase.
"Let's kill ports and introduce new ones so we can sell dongles and wireless add-ons" = Price increase.

This list is much more like a diatribe of personal grievances than anything else...
Your many disingenuous assertions take the punch out of any legitimate point, in my opinion.
Like, did anyone “ask” for FaceTime? No. TouchID? No. The Secure Enclave? No.
That line of reasoning doesn’t play.
Then, pretending like the “stupid looking notch that nobody asked for” was responsible for the X’s price increase (you know, rather than the new array of sensors & cameras, and moving from LCD to OLED), further dilutes your overall position.
The fact that dongle sales, in the grand scheme of things add to Apple’s bottom line basically what could be a rounding error, makes the claim that it was a factor in any port removal decisions a pretty weak argument.
Apple using glass on both sides for 4/4S, then choosing not to for the 5, the 5S, the 6/6+, the 6S/6S+, the SE, and the 7 kinda takes the wind out of your sails, in postulating glass on the rear is some kind of bizarre cash grab... are you trying to claim that for those 5 years Apple didn’t want the mythical revenue you’re ascribing to glass backs???
The real doosey of the bunch, however, is trying to say that because Apple is now focused on offering more COMPLETELY OPTIONAL services like Music, and TV+ “= price increase”....
Huh? The others are merely exaggeration or hyperbole; this one is patently and unequivocally false.
 
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People in this thread are already pissed off. Like, I have never seen such an adverse reaction to bundled accessories.
While I can’t speak for everyone... I feel like bundled accessories would bother nobody & don’t see anyone claiming differently.
What is annoying/irritating though is false claims of such.

Analogy time! =)

If breast cancer was cured, we’d likely all rejoice.
However, if we read that claim... followed the link, & found it was some utter hogwash, bait-click, hope-dashing nonsense... we’d more than likely take umbrage with somebody making false claims & getting hopes up, simply to lure readers for their own profit.
 
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I don't think this will happen, but if it does the first thing I will do with the bundled AirPods is to put them for sale on eBay.

The AirPods are useless for me as they fall out of my ears with the slightest movement. I would be nice though to recoup some of the cost of the iPhone, by selling the AirPods :D
Silicon shark fin covers?

Anyway, I wonder how much they would fetch though. You wouldn't be the only one doing this. Likewise, "everyone" else would have AirPods now, too. Maybe, $50? At least, it'd be something. AirPods would become ubiquitous for sure.
 
Silicon shark fin covers?

Anyway, I wonder how much they would fetch though. You wouldn't be the only one doing this. Likewise, "everyone" else would have AirPods now, too. Maybe, $50? At least, it'd be something. AirPods would become ubiquitous for sure.

The only issue with the shark fins tips and similar, is that they need to be removed before the AirPods can be put in the case.

Not sure of the price value of the AirPods, but whatever it was, it would be better than them sitting in the box unused :)
 
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