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DigiTimes Reports PowerBook G5 and iBook G5 Contracts

Asteroid and G5 iBook

SubGothius said:
Hafta wonder if this portends an uber-cheap "MacBook mini" based on the old iBook G4 MoBo (and/or Mac mini MoBo? It sure is tiny...). :D
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Well put, on all fronts, I totally agree with what SubGothias says about Oppenheimer's quote, could mean many things... but most importantly, lets sell some G4 powerbooks first, then surprise with a nice juicy G5... the company has been doing amazing things for the past 2 years or so, why not a G5 powerbook...

And as for the super tiny macbook mini, maybe they finally have a nice little 7 or 8 inch tablet with a speedy G4 chip built in.. no keyboard, no mouse no optical drive, just a stylus and tones of wireless capabilities to control other devices.. Airtunes, Remote Desktop... control your Mac Mini with a Mac Book Mini, maybe thats what "Asteroid" is... remember, Schiller said months ago that they have some cool products that will work nicely controlling Airtunes wirelessly... didn't see anything like that at Macworld.


Predicition... Asteroid is the iTab : )

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Okay guys. I really doubt Apple will release G5 notebooks before Tiger comes out officially. By the way when is Tiger supossed to come? Anyone have any ideas?
 
jadam said:
nope, Q2 2005 for the MPC8641

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/28/freescale_g4_7448/
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the article you cited say the mpc8641 will sample in the second half of 2005; no shipping date is given (but i'm guessing at least a few months before shipping in quantity).

Did anyone else find shocking the total volume of computers this report is suggesting? Apple did 1.05 million computers in the Xmas quarter. This report lays the claim for:

350,000 ibooks a quarter
120,000 powerbooks a quarter
300,000 mac minis a quarter

So adding the iMacs and PowerMacs (around 623,000 total for the last quarter), Apple will ship 1.3 million units a quarter--5.2 million a year. Stunning.
 
Well I have a PIC wont last long Apple Legal will pull it
 

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Why would that pic get taken down?

its just a distorted ibook.

is this some joke I'm not getting :confused:
 
Scratchbc said:
Why would that pic get taken down?

its just a distorted ibook.

is this some joke I'm not getting :confused:
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its melted from all the heat.
 
I particularly like the addition of those channels in the bottom to whisk away any excess heat...Ives is really cookin' now.
 
i recon this is spot on, IBM has developed a new technique that uses a drop of water (very pure water) to focus the laser used for etching the cpu's, there was an article on it in new scientist apparently this got them 90% of the way to perfecting the 65nm process so all looks good for a sub 20W 2GHz g5 powerbook and a 1.6GHz ibook, and of cource powermac updates to 3GHz

once apple can make a mac g5 they will make a mac g5, the emac is the only exception as it's not on the priority list, g5's are cheaper than g4's at much higher clock speeds, if an ibook g5 came out at the same time unless they are matched specs i'm still going to get a powerbook as it will be my uni computer and it needs to last.
 
Benj said:
I would have thought we would be waiting at least a year from the PB going G5 before the iBook follows. The iBook only went G4 in late 2003 I think. (A long time after the PB.)
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You know, I can't help but wonder if that was partly a marketing move. At the time, new G3's were really catching up. They were practically at the same MHz/GHz rating and there was speculation of a 200MHz FSB. If that had happened, that would have been a marketing nightmare against the G4 and the "Power" line.

1.0GHz G3 @ 200Mhz
1.0GHz G4 @ 167MHz


Whereas, if they move the PB and iB to the G5 line, they could do:
iBook: 1.6GHz G5 @ 400MHz FSB
PBook: 1.8GHz G5 @ 600-900 MHz FSB

Of course, what do I know? I'm just a Doofy™.
 
Remember that this dates are shipping dates not release dates. Apple is learning from its past shipping shortages and is ramping up supply.

That given the PowerBook G5 will be released at WWDC'05 and the iBook G5 will be released at MacWorld in September '05 as the iMac G5 was.


This would mean that the PowerBook G5 will be released at 1.8 and 2.0 GHz and the iBook G5 will be released at 1.6GHz. There is a gap as there is one now.

Apple is focusing on the educational market and the Mac mini, eMac and iBook all fall in that line.

Apples fiscal Q is different from a year Q for product release. Why are people getting this mistaken. Q1 = Jan - Mar, Q2 = Apr - Jun, Q3 = Jul - Sep, Q4 = Oct - Dec.

It is quite possible that Apple knows that the demand for a mobile G5 and thus shipping supply early. The iBook is going to wait for a good 2-3 months before release announcement at MacWorld and have ample supply for Christmas 2005. :)

IBM has been developing the GX low power G5 line so why is this a surprise and the GX is being shipped in mass quantity in Q2 2005. :)

The Mac mini is basically an iBook, so once the iBook goes G5 there is not much to do in converting the mini to a G5. :)

Mac mini = mobile desktop. :)

At present the iBook out sell the PowerBooks anyhow and this was due to the fact that the PowerBooks have not been updated. <--- not brain surgery to figure this out. :)

This only leave the whole desktop line moving to dual core, since the speed gaps are way too close once the notebooks go G5. As always Apple will find ways to cripple the iBook G5 when compared to PowerBook G5 so why are people kicking a storm in regards to it. :)

Remember Apple has said any things in the past as many have noted yet those remarks are smoke and mirrors. Remember the G5 is not suitable for an iMac as stated at WWDC '04 and then in September '04 we have an iMac G5. Did they work a miracle in a few months, NO that was stated since Apple was stocking up and yet they still miss predicted and there was a long waiting period. :p

No more G4 here people, Tiger is tooted as taking a lot of advantage of the G5 processor and the G4 has been here way too long IMHO.

Some say will people need 8Gigs of ram, remember what people working in the industry have stated in the past. All those remarks and statements only look till the tip of ones nose not beyond.

This is the year of HD and its coming to consumers along with 64-bit chips. Its the applications that have the requirement for a lot of memory and as long as those applications exist and have a demand for the 8Gigs of memory will be used. :)

2Gig SO-DIMM ram modules already exist, what next in the next 6 months 4Gig modules. That would mean 2 ram slots in a PowerBook and iBook G5 2 x 4Gig SO-DIMM = 8Gigs :eek: <--- very possible.

You can buy 1Gig SO-DIMM for under 200 USD in six months that will be under 100 USD and 2Gigs will be had for about 200 USD with 4Gig SO-DIMM costing well lets not go there. :)
 
This brings up another questions:

Why did Apple release a Mac mini at 1.25 - 1.42Ghz, does this means a Mac mini G5 will be released at MWSF '06. :)

The same G5 processor speed of 1.6GHz that was released @ WWDC '03 can now be had in a 499 computer at MWSF "06. <--- And people were saying what again. ;) :)
 
Frobozz said:
This seems like a typo to me. I'm not sure how an iBook would be produced in almost 2-to-1 ratios against the PowerBook. That is, if this is the whole story. There could be another contractor to complete the remaining PowerBook orders.

What do you guys think? I'm not so sure about this info, but it certainly doesn't seem like it was intentionally forged.
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I was an early adopter of Ti PB as a G4-400 owner. I am waiting as long as it takes to buy a G5 PB. I recenty became impatient as my PB has damage from excessive use so I purchased a second Ti-G4-400, to maintain 100% compatibility while I wait for the PB G5.

Today's news is the first 3rd party (ie not an anonymous rumour) hard news of a PB G5 being imminent. I believe them. I share the skepticism of those folks questioning a iBook G5, but remember, iBooks have alot of cripples (FSB,videocard) to justify the price discrepencey between the iBook and the PowerBook.

Recently the Mac Mini ADDED purchases to our list, not displaced any. We will be adding one as a full-time server, one as a dedicated media center.

And now iPod Shuffles (cheaters) will be treated as accessory purchases (like a mouse) and given one to a person in our group.

Rocketman
 
First thing I literally said at macworld when I saw the mac mini was, "Apple is unloading their G4 processor stock so they can go to G5 on the powerbooks"...
 
Hard to believe

Given the negative spin on any 'book G5 during the last conference call, this sounds improbable. I would buy one in a heartbeat though. ;)
 
ZildjianKX said:
First thing I literally said at macworld when I saw the mac mini was, "Apple is unloading their G4 processor stock so they can go to G5 on the powerbooks"...
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Is the mini G4 chip the same as the one in the powerbook G4?
 
Transic said:
In October [2004], Peter Oppenheimer, Apple’s CFO, reiterated Apple’s commitment to providing a premium product. “To date, we have chosen not to compete in the sub-$800 desktop market,” he said.

That really makes me question just how much we can trust what he says about future products.
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Apple also does not confirm or deny any future product announcements hardware or software related. ;) :)

Apple policy, get people sidetracked from what we have planned. ;) :)
 
missing the point?

I think a lot of people her have missed the point - go back and read the article. It never mentions the Powerbook at all. The authors then add it into a table with apparently no data to back it up, thats all.

What you have here is some PC nerd getting confused after talking about imacs/ipods/imac mini and calling the notebook product an ibook rather than powerbook.

The roadmap is probably as follows:

3GHZ G5 Powermac - April/May - this is not big news, its a year late so not one to shout about at WWDC

Tiger - they will want this out before WWDC, so everyone can play with it there, either that or they ship it on Day1 of WWDC

So that leaves the big WWDC announcement open for the G5 powerbook

What of the iBook? Well maybe once the G4 PB stocks start to run low ahead of G5 we'll get a bump, again in April/May, to offer better tiger compatibility

Could the 12" powerbook be dropped? you bet it could, thats is the hard one to engineer as a G5 at this moment. If you've got the iBook at the similar performance levels then you don't need the PB12 it as long as you spec the iBook up a little.
 
Transic said:
In October [2004], Peter Oppenheimer, Apple’s CFO, reiterated Apple’s commitment to providing a premium product. “To date, we have chosen not to compete in the sub-$800 desktop market,” he said.

That really makes me question just how much we can trust what he says about future products.
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You have to learn to read between the lines.

He says, “To date, we have chosen not to compete in the sub-$800 desktop market,” not "To date we have chosen not to build computers out of llama parts."

That means, "in the future we will chose to compete in the sub-$800 desktop market."

He says the Powerbook G5 is "the mother of all challenges."

That means, "We're Apple, we've kicked this thing's ass."
 
gordo said:
Could the 12" powerbook be dropped? you bet it could, thats is the hard one to engineer as a G5 at this moment. If you've got the iBook at the similar performance levels then you don't need the PB12 it as long as you spec the iBook up a little.
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Let's hope not. I like the small size of the 12". And Apple has already invested significant sums of money to design the form factor. It would be interesting how they plan to cool down a G5 in a laptop? Perhaps radiant cooling from the display?
 
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