I decided i wasnt going to read a whole 8 pages worth of stuff, so im gonna point this out here and now. When you check the source, eg DigiTimes, you will see if you look closely at the chart, you will note that it says they will ship the iBook/iBook G5 and a PowerBook G5. This leads me to belive that they will still be shipping the G4 model of the iBook. It also leads me to belive that they will only have certain models of the iBook G5 as an upper class model, and seemingly, they will change the entire line of PowerBooks to the G5 chip. Personally, based on this conclusion, it looks as though by doing this, Apple will boost sales of both iBook and PowerBooks because of the extreame difference in the two. Such a difference has been lacking, in my opinion, since the introduction of the G4 iBook.
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iPodAddict said:
Since my post is second to last on page 8, I doubt it'll be seen so I'll repost.
It seems to me a bad move going to G5. It also seems unrealistic. There have been NO ANNOUNCEMENTS of low voltage G5's from IBM whatsoever. On the other hand, Motorola has announced dual core 1.5 GHz G4's that run at a mere 15-25w! And single core that gets 10w at 1.5!
Can you imagine the speed boost? iBook at 1.5 GHz, with a 6-8 hour battery life (say goodbye, Centrino!). PowerBook, with a dual core 1.5 GHz and 5-6 hour battery life. That'd be an awesome lineup. And blazing fast- A dual core 1.5 G4 would probably outperform a 2 GHz G5.
Who needs 64-bit?
Platform said:So usually a cpu generation last for two major OS releases, So the G4 should last for 10.5 as well and then for 10.6 you need a G5 for min specs or am I wrong
The G4 is far from dead. Motorola will be releasing dual core 1.5 G4's (see above post) very soon, and G4's that scale up to 2 GHz shortly after that. They've even announced they're working on adding 64-bit extensions to the G4.
A 64-bit low-power dual-core 2 GHz G4 would be sweet for notebooks, with a dual-core 3 GHz G5 in desktops
Platform said:We will only see that as a need in several years 32Bit will proberly have a long time to live
I shoulda said, "Who needs 64-bit in a laptop?"
I can see it perfectly in a desktop. 4 GB of RAM can be passed fast. In a laptop, it can't very easily.
Besides, by 2006 we should have 64-bit G4's according to Motorola, so it makes sense to keep the G4s around.
GFLPraxis said:The G4 is far from dead. Motorola will be releasing dual core 1.5 G4's (see above post) very soon, and G4's that scale up to 2 GHz shortly after that. They've even announced they're working on adding 64-bit extensions to the G4.
A 64-bit low-power dual-core 2 GHz G4 would be sweet for notebooks, with a dual-core 3 GHz G5 in desktops
But the G4 in the Mac mini 1.42Ghz would that be able or would 10.5 porberly have 64Bit requirment
iPodAddict said:
You are reading too much into it. Look at the chart again. They are simply stating that they intend to ship 1.3 to 1.5 million combined iBooks in 2005. This just means they are including both the iBook G4s they are currently shipping as well as the iBook G5s they intend to ship later this year in this figure.
Which and how many FireWire ports? SATA ports?
Hopefully they will put AT LEAST two FireWire ports on both the iBook G5 and PowerBook G5. SATA ports?
I hope this is not off-topic, but...
It is ridiculous what Apple has done with the Mac mini:
- No FireWire 800.
- Only one FireWire 400 port.
Does Apple really want to promote FireWire versus other alternatives like USB 2 or SATA? Or should perhaps Apple move to SATA ports altogether, which is much faster and seems the next industry standard?
We were set to switch and place a large corporate order of Macs mini to replace our aging PC-Windows systems, but such move has been postponed since we cannot boot the Macs mini from fast (7200 rpm) external drives (400 GB) and then have at least one FireWire port free. The internal Mac mini disk is too slow (4200 rpm) and small for us. And no, we cannot afford the expensive and noisy PowerMacs G5.
Hopefully the next Mac mini revision will have that. Or else we will definitely purchase PC-Windows machines where you are spoilt for choice. Our chance to switch vanishes again. Oh well...
Hopefully they will put AT LEAST two FireWire ports on both the iBook G5 and PowerBook G5. SATA ports?
I hope this is not off-topic, but...
It is ridiculous what Apple has done with the Mac mini:
- No FireWire 800.
- Only one FireWire 400 port.
Does Apple really want to promote FireWire versus other alternatives like USB 2 or SATA? Or should perhaps Apple move to SATA ports altogether, which is much faster and seems the next industry standard?
We were set to switch and place a large corporate order of Macs mini to replace our aging PC-Windows systems, but such move has been postponed since we cannot boot the Macs mini from fast (7200 rpm) external drives (400 GB) and then have at least one FireWire port free. The internal Mac mini disk is too slow (4200 rpm) and small for us. And no, we cannot afford the expensive and noisy PowerMacs G5.
Hopefully the next Mac mini revision will have that. Or else we will definitely purchase PC-Windows machines where you are spoilt for choice. Our chance to switch vanishes again. Oh well...
It's not hard to imagine that the G5 line could be made applicable to laptops as a whole. If it is the same chip that requires basically the same modifications, there is no reason why it couldn't be done accross the line.
Inroducing G5 Powerbooks (higher speed) and G5 iBooks (lower speed) at the same time would benefit consumers and Apple. I think it is both achievable and a good thing. It may slightly hurt the ego of Powerbook users, but Powerbook users are still going to have plenty to brag about.
Inroducing G5 Powerbooks (higher speed) and G5 iBooks (lower speed) at the same time would benefit consumers and Apple. I think it is both achievable and a good thing. It may slightly hurt the ego of Powerbook users, but Powerbook users are still going to have plenty to brag about.
No refurbished powerbooks
I noticed that Apple doesn't have any powerbooks in their refurbished sections. Maybe thats an indicator of g4 powerbook supply. So, maybe the g5 is on its way in. Steve would probably announce it for immediate availability for WWDC, and in Paris for the new iBooks, which would be available immediately too. And I agree that the rev. b would be a better buy because they would resolve any issues they had with the rev. a. Just my opinion.
I noticed that Apple doesn't have any powerbooks in their refurbished sections. Maybe thats an indicator of g4 powerbook supply. So, maybe the g5 is on its way in. Steve would probably announce it for immediate availability for WWDC, and in Paris for the new iBooks, which would be available immediately too. And I agree that the rev. b would be a better buy because they would resolve any issues they had with the rev. a. Just my opinion.
Marx55 said:
What is it with you people?
The Mac Mini is a small consumer-oriented box.
FW 800 is a pro-level interface for peripherals: FW400 is suitable for most people's needs... and you say you want to hook 400gb drives up to the Mini's? Unless you're in the video business, I can't see why you need 400gb capacity on every desk and if you are in the video business than why buy Mini's?
Furthermore, there are other capable models between the G5 PMs and the minis iMacs and eMacs... and the G5 PMs are not noisy, I work with one every day.
Just what kind of planet are you on?
It would be kind of stupid don't you think? Maybe even Bill Palmer stupid. Develop possibly the best selling Mac ever and then release a new operating system that won't run on it. Sheesh. The issue surfaced around Core Image.TheMasin9 said:
For computers without a programmable GPU, Core Image dynamically optimizes for the CPU, automatically tuning for Velocity Engine and multiple processors as appropriate.
This just means that unless you have an appropriate GPU, your experience won't be as slick.I don't need a mac mini or shuffle...
but if these things have:
-decent battery life (variable speed proc)
-better resolution (I can get 1400 x 1050 on my Toshiba Tablet, with a smaller screen!)
-G5 power when you need it - That's you Photoshop
I'd be first in line....
but if these things have:
-decent battery life (variable speed proc)
-better resolution (I can get 1400 x 1050 on my Toshiba Tablet, with a smaller screen!)
-G5 power when you need it - That's you Photoshop
I'd be first in line....
Yeah, but I'd like to upgrade before the end of the year. Those dual-core chips aren't sampling until the second half at the earliest. Guess they could potentially make their way into a PB before Christmas maybe, MWSF '06 anyone?GFLPraxis said:
I would like to know the reason this was bumped to Page 1. MOSR are claiming maybe 2 G4 revs before we see a G5 PB. And they're claiming the next rev. will be using a 7447B chip and not the new 7448 e600 core.