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That's kind of an interesting distinction to think about. I'm sure the argument went something like the characters are flawed rather than bad but I would have loved to be a fly on the wall for that.

Also - Don’t the Underwoods use iPhones in season 1 but Android phones in season 2? That was my recollection, but it’s been years since I watched.
 
Why are you guessing? the article says product placement deals in the very first sentence.

Anyway, Apple can assert trademarks or copyright infringement if they feel aggrieved by the usage of an Apple product in a movie so prodictions will usually check in with manufacturers when featuing products on screen. This has been going on for decades with all sorts of brands. For example car makers often ask you don’t crash their cars, or show them being ridden illegally, or have people using drugs in them. Fast food brands won’t let you show their food being eaten by sick or obese people. You can go ahead and do it anyway, because the legal risk is quite small, but unless you have a solid artistic reason for taking the risk, why bother?
Always wondered about a Docu-drama. That's supposed to be true to life like. Halfway between truth and fiction, what happens then?
 
If you want to confirm to me that you have no integrity, tell me something like, “I really shouldn’t tell you this, but fine, I’ll tell you.” Oh the struggle you must be having to do the right thing. Oh how ashamed you must be feeling for doing something you know you shouldn’t. Oh how gleeful you’re telling me you feel for spilling a little secret. Oh how important you must feel for being in the know. Just say it or shaddap.

lol sounds like something Kim Jong il would say
Or most CEOs.

And I really shouldn’t tell you this, but fine, I’ll tell you. Kim Jong Il’s dead.
 
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The problem with this policy is that the criterion used to determine who the good guys and the bad guys are so subjective.
No it's easy. iPhone = good guy. Android = bad guy. The only confusion likely to arise is if we see an iPhone user wearing a black hat or an Android user with a white hat.
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My suspicion is that it’s about paid product placement.
It's just a suspicion? 😂
 
In a modern version of A Christmas Carol, Scrooge wakes up on Christmas morning and is happy to be alive, but finds his Android is dead batt and is given an iPhone by the ghost of Steve Jobs.
But being Scrooge is it the Pro or SE/8 iPhone model. 🤣
 
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how narcissistic can you get.

If they are PAYING for product placement, they get to make demands/requests.

However if I just went and made a film I can use an iPhone I paid for how ever I wish.

This is the truth that the original neglected to mention.
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Also so while this is potentially true in Apple+ Tv shows they ALL use iPhone. Good, Bad or just plain 'orrible.

If something is out of there creative control BUT they have paid for the product placement ( and I personally know they do - not matter what others have said on here ) they they are fully in their rights to request that the it's not a bad guy.

I actually personally know a director / producer that got Apple to pay product placement as the main bad guy was going to use the iPhone to film people held hostage... Apple paid for him NOT to and only the main cop Had an iPhone(6) - the bad guys used very generic Android in the end.
 
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I think in soap operas they use a special version of the iPhone that doesn't have a passcode. So when some characters lets their phone out of their sight for more than 5 milliseconds the bad guy / jealous girlfriend / whoever can pick it up, check their phone records, messages, and send fake messages from the phone. Always makes me cringe.
 
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The problem with this policy is that the criterion used to determine who the good guys and the bad guys are so subjective.

Well, that's Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones out of the running, but fortunately the cellphone coverage in New Mexico is nearly as bad as in Westeros.

Apart from that, how many stories get through the "Hollywood" (or elsewhere) meat grinder without designated heroes and villains? (Netflix even turned the protagonist of Altered Carbon into a hero... and looks like they're consequently having to skip the second book in which he does some very unpleasant things).
 
So if an actor played Tim Cook in a movie, the actor could only be seen with Windows and Android products?

:rolleyes: So if an actor played Aston441 in a movie he'd need a new agent.
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Well, that's Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones out of the running, but fortunately the cellphone coverage in New Mexico is nearly as bad as in Westeros.

Apart from that, how many stories get through the "Hollywood" (or elsewhere) meat grinder without designated heroes and villains? (Netflix even turned the protagonist of Altered Carbon into a hero... and looks like they're consequently having to skip the second book in which he does some very unpleasant things).

Westeros does have a Starbucks though...

Some protagonists can still be nasty pieces of work... Tom Cruise in Collaterol for example. He used a Nokia 8210 therefore completely evil.
 
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Well yeah. Unwashed green bubble peasants are inherently bad people.

And now I'm gonna mystify my girlfriend whenever we go see something by pointing out who the bad guy is 10 minutes into movies.

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It plotted a great story, but was _way_ to long, it could’ve been shortened easily. But had an Excellent line of actors with good a setting, it just was drawn out longer than necessary.

I'll never understand why everyone's attention span has dwindled to that of a goldfish. Knives Out easily could have been another 90 minutes+ long.

Dark Tower should have been another 3 hours long.
 
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Just my own interpretation:

Rian is halfway decent director. (Star Wars not so much), but ‘Knives Out’ was a unique film mixed with suspense and comedy. It plotted a great story, but was _way_ to long, it could’ve been shortened easily. But had an Excellent line of actors with good a setting, it just was drawn out longer than necessary.
I will check it out, I always appreciate your thoughts on various subjects. As for Star Wars/Last Jedi...it was no Looper!
 
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How can Apple enforce this? Surely you don't need permission from the manufacturer for every real world product seen in a piece of fiction set in the real world? Are you telling me when I see someone using a pencil on TV they got permission from Mitsubishi?
 
I can understand Johnson’s frustration with having to be clear about who is a good guy and who is a bad guy. ...since he turned Luke Skywalker into a miserable homicidal maniac and reduced Han and Leia to the worst parents in the galaxy.

Out of power this iPhone is, charged it needs to be. Hmm.
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I think this just works in case Apple is contributing to the production cost. Because legally they can show it being used by who they want.

And legally, Apple can file a lawsuit whenever they feel like it. And the producers can say goodbye to their profits, even if the lawsuit eventually gets thrown out.
 
this is sort of funny - bad guys
I've always been drawn to the laptop vendor logo when i see them on film
funny how aapl logos are covered over obviously
 
Just my own interpretation:

Rian is halfway decent director. (Star Wars not so much), but ‘Knives Out’ was a unique film mixed with suspense and comedy. It plotted a great story, but was _way_ to long, it could’ve been shortened easily. But had an Excellent line of actors with good a setting, it just was drawn out longer than necessary.

Those of us who prefer plot twists, real character evolution, and creativity, rather than tired rehashes and bland fan service, think Rian did just great with Star Wars. When Disney bought Lucas, people were worried that Star Wars would become Disneyfied. And that has happened to some extent; but Rian Johnson's work was the complete opposite of that. Lots of people loved Episode VIII; just not the usual fanbois, who want the same stuff over and over. To be honest, I suspect you secretly agree with me on this; maybe you just don't want to get jumped on by people who think "I've got a bad feeling about this" is still the funniest line in history. So, as someone who saw Episode IV a week after it was released, and hissed at (then non-cliched) Darth Vader when he first appeared, I'm taking the heat.
 
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