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When bugs are worked out att will creep up the cost to be what sat/cab currently charge.

I would not be so sure about that:

1) When it comes to traditional services, and I am simplifying here, there are 3 options for people: DirecTV, Dish Network, and whatever local cable company serves that area.

2) Now, with streaming services, there are already 3 key players with DirecTV Now, PlayStation Vue, and SlingTV. And, there are several others likely to be launched soon. To my knowledge, at least Hulu and Google/YouTube are working on offers, and I am guessing there are others.

3) Add to the streaming options the relatively simple integrations of OTA antennas to multiple TVs thanks to tools like HDHomeRun and Tablo and the capabilities of streaming boxes, including AppleTV, and there are way more options now than even in the last year or 2.

4) There are no contracts (currently) for streaming services, so in minutes people can move from Sling to Direct to Playstation and back again.

5) Now pile on the likes of Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Hulu, along with other services like HBO and Showtime, and you have even more outlets for people to stray from any 1 service.

We live in a different world now.
 
I am actually ok with current cable/sat prices except for the additional fees and with sat, outages during storms. I do have a problem with ridiculous fees. Directv charges me a $10 HD fee just to receive what by now is standard video quality. A $7 receiver fee for each additional receiver which comes to $28 in my house for a combine $38 which does not even go to programming.

Getting HBO for $5 is a nice perk which allows me to get one other premium via app which combined is less than the cost of HBO alone via sat.

If there were more streams the $60 Go Big price is still a steal in today's market when you consider similar cable costs were around $40 in the 80's.
 
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When bugs are worked out att will creep up the cost to be what sat/cab currently charge.
Are you forgetting the grandfathered pricing we are getting? Or do you feel it is just a scam? I feel the regular prices are to high at least at this point.

I have not had the problems some have reported. I am also a Apple TV fan and also iOS. To me this this deal which only lasted for about 40 days is just go good to pass up. And I have not even cancelled my other TV package. I have only been using it fir my normal live tv needs.

For me I did cancel HBO Now ($15) and got HBO Go ($5) so my net price is $25 for three months and a free Apple TV which I gave to other family since I already have 8 for 8 TV's.

I need DVR and couple more channels and more streams for it to be more a complete TV Streaming solution. I think I may end up with this and maybe another service in the end. Looking forward to what Hulu offers since U already have it with no commercials and the Showtime Addon.

Never going back to CABLE Boxes paying $70 / month and only supporting 4 TVs just for the hardware.
 
Are you forgetting the grandfathered pricing we are getting? Or do you feel it is just a scam? I feel the regular prices are to high at least at this point.

Read the fine print boss, that is $35 each month. That's a non starter right there! Still don't see the value of paying $35 for 100 channels, and most ppl only watch maybe a handful of those channels at best. And yes I know the channels I don't watch help subsidize the ones I do, yada yada. Football season is over, so I don't need ESPN any longer. And I may watch FX, TNT and a few others on occasion.

So I don't see why I should pay $35 for those few channels. Every person's situation is different, so maybe there are those out there that watch most of the channels offered. But in my case, the only reason I took advantage of the offer is the discounted Appletv they offered.
 
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Read the fine print boss, that is $35 each month. That's a non starter right there! Still don't see the value of paying $35 for 100 channels, and most ppl only watch maybe a handful of those channels at best. And yes I know the channels I don't watch help subsidize the ones I do, yada yada. Football season is over, so I don't need ESPN any longer. And I may watch FX, TNT and a few others on occasion.

So I don't see why I should pay $35 for those few channels. Every person's situation is different, so maybe there are those out there that watch most of the channels offered. But in my case, the only reason I took advantage of the offer is the discounted Appletv they offered.

Prior to DTVN, my Comcast basic cable package, with HBO+Cinemax "deal" came to ~$51/month with fees and taxes.

One of the premium channels like HBO is $20 alone, or the sister channel packages like HBO/Cinemax, or Showtime/TMC can be had for the same price.

$19.67 Limited Basic
$19.99 Multiple Premium Package
$2.65 Digital Converter
$5.00 Broadcast TV Fee
$3.59 Taxes and fees

Limited Basic consists of the locals, their subchannels, a bunch of shopping channels, audio music channels, and Discovery.

So, to avoid poor OTA reception, and get HBO, it's at least $50/month. Even without it, a minimum of $30/month for basic service for one outlet.

A Comcast channel package comparable to Go Big, and including sports channels (which remain the last compelling reason for many to watch live TV) starts at $45 with a 1-year contract, or $55 without.

Add $20 for the premium channels, $4 for an additional outlet (to match the two streams), $3 for the Regional Sports Network fee and the bullfeces $10 HD Technology Fee (which is waived only for the lowest tier). Note that the Broadcast Fee and RSN Fees are going up to $7/$5 respectively for 2017, as part of Comcast's clockwork annual price increases.

Apples to apples, paying $35 for a $60 100-channel package with all the sports channels, compared to a what it would cost with Comcast isn't such a bad value. Even at "full" pricing, which DTVN will surely creep up toward, it's still a better value. And that's before the fees/taxes and more expensive premiums are added.

Whether you watch those channels is irrelevant; there is no à la carte service in the U.S., and as our Canadian friends have discovered, even when offered, it doesn't necessarily mean costs are any lower.

I don't even watch most of the channels in the Go Big packages, but by any objective evaluation, DTVN is a superior value.

And who would be foolish enough to not choose the Go Big $35 promo even if the you don't intend to keep it, or the price goes up? At the very least, you get a Fire Stick for free, some insulation from future price increases, and more channels to enjoy in the interim. Versus paying the same sum for the lowest "Live A Little" tier with none of those benefits? There is nothing to prevent one from switching tiers later.

It's almost certain that the $35 promos aren't positive for AT&T's bottom line. But as long as they're willing to bear those costs for acquiring users and building their customer base, it's not a bad idea to take advantage.

The TV industry can afford to not do business with whomever wants to "disrupt" their status quo and not eat the costs for doing so, like Apple. 80% of homes with TV are served by the MSOs who will pay their price, and then pass it on to consumers, with "cherries" on top.
 
Yes, there is no a la carte yet (unfortunately). But I think the Sling packages (orange or blue) move closer to that goal than Direct TV's Go Big 100-channel package. I'm happier with $20 or $25 even with fewer channels, but with channels I'm more interested in and likely to watch.

DirectTV Now really emulates the old cable model of tons of channels but just a few worthwhile to watch. Yes, it's only $35 now, but there's no way it'll stay that way over time. Remember, they reserved the right not only to raise fees but also reduce choices.
 
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Are you forgetting the grandfathered pricing we are getting? Or do you feel it is just a scam? I feel the regular prices are to high at least at this point.

I have not had the problems some have reported. I am also a Apple TV fan and also iOS. To me this this deal which only lasted for about 40 days is just go good to pass up. And I have not even cancelled my other TV package. I have only been using it fir my normal live tv needs.

For me I did cancel HBO Now ($15) and got HBO Go ($5) so my net price is $25 for three months and a free Apple TV which I gave to other family since I already have 8 for 8 TV's.

I need DVR and couple more channels and more streams for it to be more a complete TV Streaming solution. I think I may end up with this and maybe another service in the end. Looking forward to what Hulu offers since U already have it with no commercials and the Showtime Addon.

Never going back to CABLE Boxes paying $70 / month and only supporting 4 TVs just for the hardware.

Could not agree more about the fees per box. Fortunately I have 3 years of no equipment fees
 
Yes, there is no a la carte yet (unfortunately). But I think the Sling packages (orange or blue) move closer to that goal than Direct TV's Go Big 100-channel package. I'm happier with $20 or $25 even with fewer channels, but with channels I'm more interested in and likely to watch.

DirectTV Now really emulates the old cable model of tons of channels but just a few worthwhile to watch. Yes, it's only $35 now, but there's no way it'll stay that way over time. Remember, they reserved the right not only to raise fees but also reduce choices.
I could not disagree more regarding the Sling packages. They have two distinct packages that both have some of the same channels and also have channels that are exclusive to each package. So if you have the package that has everything you want except ESPN then you can't just add it, you have to add the whole second package. Or if you have the package that includes ESPN but want to watch USA Network, for example, you can't just add it, you must add the whole second package. So Sling is unique among providers in that they do not offer tiers where you start with a base package and add channels as desired, but have two entirely distinct packages, with some overlap, and you must either choose between them or buy both packages, which ENTIRELY eliminates any price advantage Slng may have enjoyed. In a way, they have moved even further from a la carte rather than closer.

Having extensively tested all three streaming services, I eliminated Sling from contention precisely because of their annoying and confusing pricing structure. PS Vue seems to be an afterthought in these disussions, but for $30 a month they have virtually all the channels in both Sling packages combined, the ability to use 5 streams vs. one or two with the other services, a decent enough guide with show info, and a nice Cloud DVR.
 
When bugs are worked out att will creep up the cost to be what sat/cab currently charge.

No doubt. I expect that they will announce DVR service with 4 simultaneous streams as an additional charge. Being shifty as ATT is, they will probably require subscribing to any plan other than the $35 teaser most of us grabbed rather than a $5-10\mo add-on to our current plan.

As for me, I am hesitant to continue after the initial 3 months I prepaid (for the ATV). The stuttering and freezes during peak periods is unbearable. I have zero issues with Netflix\Hulu at the same time DTVN is stuttering, so it is an app or service failure.
 
Is anyone seeing regular programming other than the promo loop on the Freeview channel?
When they announced directv they said it would show a sample of programming
 
No doubt. I expect that they will announce DVR service with 4 simultaneous streams as an additional charge. Being shifty as ATT is, they will probably require subscribing to any plan other than the $35 teaser most of us grabbed rather than a $5-10\mo add-on to our current plan.

As for me, I am hesitant to continue after the initial 3 months I prepaid (for the ATV). The stuttering and freezes during peak periods is unbearable. I have zero issues with Netflix\Hulu at the same time DTVN is stuttering, so it is an app or service failure.
You're still having that issue with live TV? Odd. I haven't seen that kind of thing in awhile. It pretty much works for me except sometimes strangely the playback of on demand shows does not play the whole way though without freezing up.
 
Can anyone tell me if you have to use the email you sign up with as the default sign-in username or do you get to choose a separate username to sign in with ?
 
Can anyone tell me if you have to use the email you sign up with as the default sign-in username or do you get to choose a separate username to sign in with ?

Yeah it's your sign in. You can't choose another name as far as I know.
 
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I could not disagree more regarding the Sling packages. They have two distinct packages that both have some of the same channels and also have channels that are exclusive to each package. So if you have the package that has everything you want except ESPN then you can't just add it, you have to add the whole second package. Or if you have the package that includes ESPN but want to watch USA Network, for example, you can't just add it, you must add the whole second package. So Sling is unique among providers in that they do not offer tiers where you start with a base package and add channels as desired, but have two entirely distinct packages, with some overlap, and you must either choose between them or buy both packages, which ENTIRELY eliminates any price advantage Slng may have enjoyed. In a way, they have moved even further from a la carte rather than closer.

Having extensively tested all three streaming services, I eliminated Sling from contention precisely because of their annoying and confusing pricing structure. PS Vue seems to be an afterthought in these disussions, but for $30 a month they have virtually all the channels in both Sling packages combined, the ability to use 5 streams vs. one or two with the other services, a decent enough guide with show info, and a nice Cloud DVR.

Well, I respectfully disagree. Sling offers the 2 packages (orange or blue) and some channels do overlap between the two, granted. But I find that actually an advantage in that a subscriber will probably find a set of channels in one of these packages with his/her preferred channels.

Another point is that the Sling packages are thinner (fewer channels and less money) than the DTVN packages. That by definition is closer to a la carte than the fat packages of DTVN. For me, orange works well at the $20 price point. I feel I'm getting better value for the channels I want to watch in this package than 100 channels in Go Big (at almost and soon to be twice the price). That, again, is the cable model of tons of channels in a package at a higher price point whether you want to watch most of them or not.

Finally, the Sling price structure is very simple and easy to understand. Just 2 packages with some channels that overlap, but choose the package that closer matches your needs. Or chose both at a slightly higher price. Then add any extra specialty sub-packages (usually $5) as needed. That's it.

And lastly, I don't want to deal with AT&T or DirecTV Now. They have poor customer service (no telephone support at all) and rarely can remediate issues. So many people have complained about buffering, error codes, blackouts, etc. From my experience so far, Sling has been as smooth as can be. And you can always talk to a live person at any time for customer support.
 
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I am looking at purchasing the Direct TV Now deal just to get the Apple TV.

Just so I understand, sign up for 3 months and I get the free Apple TV 32GB 4th Gen.

What is the catch?
 
I am looking at purchasing the Direct TV Now deal just to get the Apple TV.

Just so I understand, sign up for 3 months and I get the free Apple TV 32GB 4th Gen.

What is the catch?

Its why we did it. We were going to buy a TV4 - instead of paying 150, spent 105 and get 3 months for free. (in my situation).

The app really sucks right now, though. Constant lost connection and freezing. And what I thought I would like the best from the service (dvr function like netflix etc.) is awful. Hopefully, though, will get better.
 
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Its why we did it. We were going to buy a TV4 - instead of paying 150, spent 105 and get 3 months for free. (in my situation).

The app really sucks right now, though. Constant lost connection and freezing. And what I thought I would like the best from the service (dvr function like netflix etc.) is awful. Hopefully, though, will get better.

Is there a DVR function with Direct TV Now?
 
I am looking at purchasing the Direct TV Now deal just to get the Apple TV.

Just so I understand, sign up for 3 months and I get the free Apple TV 32GB 4th Gen.

What is the catch?
There is no catch. I looked at it like this, I basically got an Apple TV for $105 if I don't decide to keep the service. I got it when it first came out and in the past month it has gotten better and you can't beat the number of channels that you get for $35 and not to mention HBO for $5. No other service has HBO for that cheap that I know of. There currently is no DVR functionality, but that have said its coming sometime this year.
 
Is there a DVR function with Direct TV Now?

The DVR function hasnt been added yet, AT&T stated that it's should arrive sometime this year, but they haven't given a specific date yet.

Some channels currently offer a 72 hour "catch up" window for shows you may have missed, but this varies based on channels.
 
Was going to sign up for the 7 day free trial and the offer popped up if I wanted to get the free Apple TV only if I accept to pay out 3 months.

Am I able to decline the free Apple TV now and within the 7 day trial get the free TV?
 
You're still having that issue with live TV? Odd. I haven't seen that kind of thing in awhile. It pretty much works for me except sometimes strangely the playback of on demand shows does not play the whole way though without freezing up.

Yep, and streaming freezes are becoming much more frequent for me. Have tried killing all other apps on ATV4, rebooting, and issues persist. If I stream with Netflix, Hulu, or any other app, no issues. So, it is either the DTVN tvOS app, or the server side that is failing. Sure hope they can work that out, coupled with the lack of locals and DVR, this is likely to be a showstopper for me.
 
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