Disappointed in the 'New' iPhone's design and screen? Here's what I think.

[Want300]

The iPhone design certainly looks sleek, but the tapered back looks very weird. He could have shaved the curved back instead of making it look like as if the iPhone had a hunchback.
And if you had the same antenna design around the phone, there is no need for a black spot at the back for the antenna again.
The side view of the phone look extremely good, the headset is tad too long, and the camera lens is exaggerated.
However, this render is still goood.
But surprise- I still like the 'official' leaked design for some reason!

If that were the case, we wouldn't be getting a two toned phone. The GPS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and NFC (maybe) need that portion.

 

[Applejuiced]

Im disappointed cause I have no clue what the next iphone will really be like

 

[CallOfDuty]

If that were the case, we wouldn't be getting a two toned phone. The GPS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and NFC (maybe) need that portion.

Assuming that the two tone back of the iPhone is certainly made of metal from the looks of it: GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth and especially NFC do not work well with metal.
Any metal has the capability of blocking and reflecting radio waves, and GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth and NFC are all radio waves.
If you had to place these internals in the phone, it would have to be the non-metal parts above and below the metal tone that is not metallic, allowing radio waves to penetrate and transmit.

 

[Applejuiced]

Assuming that the two tone back of the iPhone is certainly made of metal from the looks of it: GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth and especially NFC do not work well with metal.
Any metal has the capability of blocking and reflecting radio waves, and GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth and NFC are all radio waves.
If you had to place these internals in the phone, it would have to be the non-metal parts above and below the metal tone that is not metallic, allowing radio waves to penetrate and transmit.

I thought the original iphone had a full metal back.
And all radios, wifi, bluetooth and everything worked fine.

 

[CallOfDuty]

If that were the case, we wouldn't be getting a two toned phone. The GPS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and NFC (maybe) need that portion.

Assuming that the two tone back of the iPhone is certainly made of metal from the looks of it: GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth and especially NFC do not work well with metal.
Any metal has the capability of blocking and reflecting radio waves, and GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth and NFC are all radio waves.
If you had to place these internals in the phone, it would have to be the non-metal parts above and below the metal tone that is not metallic, allowing radio waves to penetrate and transmit.
An extra black part of the iPhone is going to start the entire fiasco of the Original iPhone's reception problem all over again. This time involving the Wifi, GPS, NFC, and Bluetooth.

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I thought the original iphone had a full metal back.
And all radios, wifi, bluetooth and everything worked fine.

I'm sorry. My reply to his post was not complete. See the one below urs!
And the original iPhone had a black tone at the back of the phone, at the bottom.

 

[Want300]

I find no purpose and reasons why someone would strangle specifically the bottom left part of the iPhone other than the replicate the issue. I don't see anyone strangling their iPhone so much, other than a slight tighter grip during calls, which is how the problem came about.

When I am talking on the phone, I hold it as shown in the picture below. My index finger is positioned in the middle of the bad of the phone, shown in picture 2...

I don't squeeze my phone very hard, but I had signal drop from holding it that way. This is my work phone (Black Slider Case from InCase)

 

[Want300]

Assuming that the two tone back of the iPhone is certainly made of metal from the looks of it: GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth and especially NFC do not work well with metal.
Any metal has the capability of blocking and reflecting radio waves, and GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth and NFC are all radio waves.
If you had to place these internals in the phone, it would have to be the non-metal parts above and below the metal tone that is not metallic, allowing radio waves to penetrate and transmit.
An extra black part of the iPhone is going to start the entire fiasco of the Original iPhone's reception problem all over again. This time involving the Wifi, GPS, NFC, and Bluetooth.

I feel like you missed my point. The original iPhone had an internal antenna. So the GSM antenna, bluetooth, wi-fi, and GPS were all located towards the bottom of the phone (assumed based of plastic portion)...

With the new external antenna, we still need a portion that is not metal on the back of the phone for GPS, BlueTooth, Wi-Fi, and NFC (maybe). Hence the black portion on the render I posted, and the reason the 4/4S has a glass back casing. The same reason the new iPhone supposedly will be two toned.

 

[CallOfDuty]

When I am talking on the phone, I hold it as shown in the picture below. My index finger is positioned in the middle of the bad of the phone, shown in picture 2...

I don't squeeze my phone very hard, but I had signal drop from holding it that way. This is my work phone (Black Slider Case from InCase)

What I know is:

Any kind of object, metal or not, is going to cause some interference. That includes your own finger and body. Which is why phones suffer from poor reception when slotted in tight jeans pockets, which is why the iPhone 4 had dropped reception when you grip it at the bottom left hand corner of the phone .

In your case, the iPhone's case affects the reception of course to some degree. However, your hand does not affect the reception by too much.
Anyway, I don't think anyone should be worried about reception issues. The new antenna system designed by apple is designed to give you the best possible reception, which is why I emphasised it is one of the best designed antennas in a phone ever. Many manufacturers forgo the fact that the antenna is equally important for a PHONE instead of all the mini fun features.

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I feel like you missed my point. The original iPhone had an internal antenna. So the GSM antenna, bluetooth, wi-fi, and GPS were all located towards the bottom of the phone (assumed based of plastic portion)...

With the new external antenna, we still need a portion that is not metal on the back of the phone for GPS, BlueTooth, Wi-Fi, and NFC (maybe). Hence the black portion on the render I posted, and the reason the 4/4S has a glass back casing. The same reason the new iPhone supposedly will be two toned.

Now i get what you mean. Was getting sleepy in the afternoon heat. Argh!

 

[Want300]

In your case, the iPhone's case affects the reception of course to some degree. However, your hand does not affect the reception by too much.
Anyway, I don't think anyone should be worried about reception issues. The new antenna system designed by apple is designed to give you the best possible reception, which is why I emphasised it is one of the best designed antennas in a phone ever. Many manufacturers forgo the fact that the antenna is equally important for a PHONE instead of all the mini fun features.

I have no antenna issues now because I have 2 4S's, with the improved antenna. The case is for protection. When I got the iPhone 4 on launch day, I didn't buy a case. And the way I hold the phone... happened to be one of the ways that killed the phone's reception. (The Verizon iPhone 4 did not have the same issue as the AT&T iPhone 4). They introduced the case program, I got my case... No more issues.

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Now i get what you mean. Was getting sleepy in the afternoon heat. Argh!

No worries, we were going in three different directions at once. Makes it easy to get confused and not remember who said what and so on.

 

[Applejuiced]

True, I dont think Apple wants to go through the same BS that happened when the i4 came out.
Im sure they will test and make 1000% sure reception works great and you dont get any issues by holding the phone in certain ways with no case etc...

 

[kralnor]

Sorry, though, but I don't think the design of the iPhone is iconic. If it was, why would everyone always cover it up? It would be like people driving around in Porsches covered with a plastic car cover.

I know this has nothing to do with the thread, but it always cracks me up when people do this. To me it's like buying a new couch and keeping the plastic on it. Yeah, the couch is nice and clean under there, but you're sitting on plastic.

I own a beautifully designed piece of hardware, and in order to keep it pretty I'm going to cover it in a clunky plastic frame. But, at least I know deep down inside, it looks nice under that ugly protector.

 

[pear21]

I think the problem is that apple did too good with the iPhone 4, it was so much better than the 3GS now people expect them to do that every single year. Apple peaked with the 4 and there isn't much they can do to make a revolutionary device like the 4 that had a way better camera, new front camera, brand new design, top notch screen....

 

[Mad Mac Maniac]

I know this has nothing to do with the thread, but it always cracks me up when people do this. To me it's like buying a new couch and keeping the plastic on it. Yeah, the couch is nice and clean under there, but you're sitting on plastic.

I own a beautifully designed piece of hardware, and in order to keep it pretty I'm going to cover it in a clunky plastic frame. But, at least I know deep down inside, it looks nice under that ugly protector.

I somewhat agree... I dislike cases on my iPhone. I never used one on my 3G, although I have used one (on and off) with my 4 because of the antenna issue and fear of breaking the glass.

But I disagree, because a lot of people like the way cases look on their phone. They will get pretty/colorful cases possibly with designs or images on it. They use them not only to enhance their iPhone but also to differentiate their phone by personalizing it. Also resale value is a motivating factor. By using a $10 case for a year or two you might be able to get $100-$200 more for your iPhone. Also, it can provide a better grip. Basically what I'm saying is there are a lot of reasons people can want to use cases.

...that being said, I don't plan to ever use a case on the "new" iPhone

 

[wrkactjob]

Lots of attention will be going to the W8 phone once its out.

 

[CallOfDuty]

I somewhat agree... I dislike cases on my iPhone. I never used one on my 3G, although I have used one (on and off) with my 4 because of the antenna issue and fear of breaking the glass.

But I disagree, because a lot of people like the way cases look on their phone. They will get pretty/colorful cases possibly with designs or images on it. They use them not only to enhance their iPhone but also to differentiate their phone by personalizing it. Also resale value is a motivating factor. By using a $10 case for a year or two you might be able to get $100-$200 more for your iPhone. Also, it can provide a better grip. Basically what I'm saying is there are a lot of reasons people can want to use cases.

...that being said, I don't plan to ever use a case on the "new" iPhone

For me, I'm on the fence. I like my iPhone in pristine condition (my verizon iPhone 4 still is now due to a case).
There are always cases which still protects your phone and yet allows your phone to maintain some degree of its sleekness. Like those cases which expose the ports and the volume buttons. The Incipio Feather case is one.
And I've already went through 1 replaced iPhone. Didn't want to go into the trouble to get another just because of a cracked glass.
When you start to use the phone, you'll notice its aesthetics and so on. But as time passes, you began to use the phone more and more and pay less attention to aesthetics.

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Lots of attention will be going to the W8 phone once its out.

I disagree. I've heard WP7 owners complain about not able to update to the latest WP8 when it comes out. Not only that, new apps developed for WP8 will not be supported for their WP7 devices. Its like Apple deciding that the iPhone 4 will not get iOS 6 after iOS 5. Brand loyalty has since then been severely affected. Microsoft not only did not assess the damages, but even told its existing fans to suck it and gave them WP7.8. Especially those who got the flagship lumia.

 

[CallOfDuty]

I think the problem is that apple did too good with the iPhone 4, it was so much better than the 3GS now people expect them to do that every single year. Apple peaked with the 4 and there isn't much they can do to make a revolutionary device like the 4 that had a way better camera, new front camera, brand new design, top notch screen....

Agreed. A phone is a phone, is a slab device that fits in your hand. Unless someone creates a phone with the curved display and the curved glass, phones will all eventually become nearly homogeneous.
I'm sort of a person which does not pay too much attention to the aesthetics, but actually the hardware itself.
I hope the new iPhone will not give us a die shrunk A5, like what some are saying. Because I'm upgrading from the iPhone 4 I have now, I don't want to get the same 1 year old hardware the 4S had for a year already, even if its die shrunk and conserves battery and everything. I want them to do either a die shrunk A5X, which will cut back down on battery consumption, or even an A6. And I would not be too inclined to take a increased clocked A5 either.
Considering the iPhone will pit itself against competitors like the GSIII and the HTC One series, the die shrunk A5 WILL NOT compete, even if they re-emphasised battery life over and over again. I refuse to take an A5. They upgraded the processor every year, so why not this year?

 

[CallOfDuty]

Post updated with my final thoughts. Hoping to see more criticism though. I feel that my thread is simply just a biased thought of mine

 

[Twixt]

Frankly, for those "disappointed" in the "new" iPhone I say ... seriously wtf? Have you nothing better to do because being disappointed in a product that isn't even out yet is ridiculous.

Not being able to understand why some ppl might be disappointed is ridiculous

 

[kixx]

Talking purely on the design itself, i really wish the new iPhone does not have a backplate like this:

The contrast between the black glass and the grey metallic cover is just too blunt IMHO. Having three different shades of grey (the aluminium band, the apple logo and the back metallic cover) is just ugly. I actually love the idea of having a metallic cover, it would just have to be something along this line:




The pure black metallic cover makes the phone look AWESOME! I have faith in Apple, im pretty sure its not hard to tell the grey/black combination is really really distasteful.

If the phone turns out to be like this photo (haivng dark grey for the metallic back cover), i will consider buying the white iPhone.

 

[MLG]

I don't think the 5 columns looks bad...I saved it on my phone and pulled it up...it looks ok on the screen. It would be better with a wallpaper.

Even better, look at the jailbroken screen with 5 columns posted on the thread about which apps are in the dock. It looks slick...the point is, 5 columns can work.

On mine, I use only one app on the first homepage...calendar, plus the 4 on the dock. That way I have a true desktop look without clutter and I can see my wallpaper.

 

[CallOfDuty]

Talking purely on the design itself, i really wish the new iPhone does not have a backplate like this:

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The contrast between the black glass and the grey metallic cover is just too blunt IMHO. Having three different shades of grey (the aluminium band, the apple logo and the back metallic cover) is just ugly. I actually love the idea of having a metallic cover, it would just have to be something along this line:

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The pure black metallic cover makes the phone look AWESOME! I have faith in Apple, im pretty sure its not hard to tell the grey/black combination is really really distasteful.

If the phone turns out to be like this photo (haivng dark grey for the metallic back cover), i will consider buying the white iPhone.

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I agree. I think something must be done to the metallic back to distinguish the iPhone between a black and white one other than the front.

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I don't think the 5 columns looks bad...I saved it on my phone and pulled it up...it looks ok on the screen. It would be better with a wallpaper.

Even better, look at the jailbroken screen with 5 columns posted on the thread about which apps are in the dock. It looks slick...the point is, 5 columns can work.

On mine, I use only one app on the first homepage...calendar, plus the 4 on the dock. That way I have a true desktop look without clutter and I can see my wallpaper.

I also tried to test my own theories by saving it to my iPhone 4 and looking at how it would look like. Frankly saying, I might have exaggerated the 5 column a little, but what I first encounter is that I find apps extremely difficult to find. To test, I tell myself: First, look for where is the newsstand app and it took me maybe 2-3 seconds to be able to find it. To me, this is enough to affect user experience such that people would have trouble searching for apps, because there is simply too much on the screen. The current 4x4 grid layout is perfect, and the only compromise Apple can do is to make the screen longer which is what I emphasise, a right decision.

 

[Ay_Zimmy]

People are fussing way too much about the screen. I agree with your points. The apps would look stupid. And it's kind of hard looking at 30 apps on the front page. That's not what the iPhone is about. Also. Everyone just cares about designs. Well the 4 and 4S were phenomenal designs and they just worked off it and made it way better. I can't believe people actually get upset it's the same shape.. So stupid. But the screen is going to be fine. A 16:9 display is nice and it wont look like all the other phones. Thank god

 

[CallOfDuty]

People are fussing way too much about the screen. I agree with your points. The apps would look stupid. And it's kind of hard looking at 30 apps on the front page. That's not what the iPhone is about. Also. Everyone just cares about designs. Well the 4 and 4S were phenomenal designs and they just worked off it and made it way better. I can't believe people actually get upset it's the same shape.. So stupid. But the screen is going to be fine. A 16:9 display is nice and it wont look like all the other phones. Thank god

Exactly. While a 'Don't fix things that's not broken' slogan does not help innovate, neither does 'Change for change's sake'. From the looks of it, the new iPhone is certainly revolutionary again, with a new thinner design. I would take the leaked iPhones over some teardrop aluminium backed iPhone which strips away the touted antenna if you point a knife at my neck.
And looking at 30 apps on each home screen is simply mind blowing, considering all the icons are squares. Although its not a really huge problem on the way it looks, it certainly does confuses people.

 

[Indy21]

All I know is that Sept 12th can't get here soon enough!!!

 

[CallOfDuty]

All I know is that Sept 12th can't get here soon enough!!!

You need to know that 12th September is not a confirmed date Don't get your hopes too high up.
I, for one, is also anxiously waiting for the new iPhone. Of course, everyone already saw how it is most likely going to look like, which is why I created this thread in response to those who needs some convincing.