Your 2006 still works? Have you replaced the logic board or graphics processor?
I have a recently dead early 2008 and a late 2008 that needed a new graphics processor.
I'm a little down about Macs right now.
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Disappointed with the new MacBook Pros
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Your 2006 still works? Have you replaced the logic board or graphics processor?
I have a recently dead early 2008 and a late 2008 that needed a new graphics processor.
I'm a little down about Macs right now.
Look at Apple with today's perspective, that is pretty true... however, I feel as if you are not fully aware that Apple didn't start getting this consumer-focussed until 2007, with the release of the iPhone. Apple didn't always aim for thin and light-weight devices, as their ambitions (and the products they have made) obviously changed over the course of their history, from 1976 to present day. This whole idea of simplicity is something that Apple started to incorporate with their products in 1998, beginning with the iMac. However, only now do they seem to be doing so with a little corner-cutting and compromise amidst it all. I understand that more and more "tech-tarded" people are using their products, but--frankly--soldering RAM to the board was a hideous and rash decision; and why the heck did they do it to the Mac Mini? I don't know any novice user who goes for a Mac Mini. The kinds of people who own a Mac Mini are those who know about computers in general, as well as upgradability. I hate Apple's semi-recent plunge into mainstream matters... It brings along die-hard followers, which then causes every idiotic Windows fanboy to label ANY person with an Apple computer as a "sheep".
From your signature all of your apple products are 5 years old or more, good for you, but until you have used and experienced the new products perhaps you should reserve judgement.
My 2013 rMBP makes my 2010 MBP look a bit of a dinosaur in comparisson and that was upgraded to a top spec ssd and 8gb of RAM.
I have a 2009 Spring MBP and I burned out the DVD drive. I used it back then a lot. Never bothered to replace it
My late 2011 MBP? I've used it 2x.
Other than perhaps ripping a movie and burning it to DVD, i can't imagine why people use them anymore??!!
That said, I could care less about them being thin and even though i don't use it, it was nice knowing it was there IF i did, I would rather it had stayed "thicker" and kept it. I didn't consider the MBP thick anyhow.
Just my $0.02
I use mine constantly for booting various operating systems and for backups of some important files. Booting from USBs is a bit iffy many times, but optical media is usually reliable.
For backups, I don't run the risk of accidentally deleting my backup if it is on a read only storage medium like a CD, nor do I need an internet connection to get the file I need. CDs are cheaper than a dedicated backup hard drive for small amounts of data and don't put all your eggs in one basket.
My dad owns 4+ Retina MacBook Pros, and I have been experiencing brand new Apple products since 2004, so I have had experience. Besides, even if I didn't live around new products, friends and family have them, as well as my local Apple store.
You make the most sense..as I must agree with all you say here.
I however am not a nerd.....I a wannabe nerd......meaning, I have to work at it a lot harder than those of you here where it just comes natural to and although i am better than the average user, (which isn't saying much..LOL) I will never have the knowledge so of you have. But I "wanna" have it, but I just don't.
That being said, I'm a late converter to macs, as of only 2007 and i have had 2 macbook pros since and this week just broke down and purchase the retina iMac and not because i really need it but because I just wasn't "hit" with anything the line up has to offer these days but I also sadly understand that that is progress and we can't fight it.
I also wonder.....Jobs managed to make Apple very "cool". People that used macs were rebels where as PC users were run of the mill people.....Jobs somehow hid capitalism behind the facade of rebelliousness but now that he's gone, I can't help but feel that the rebel nature of Apple and its users is now going the way of the Floppy Drive/DVD Drive and just becoming average consumers
my only disappointment is with resolution. For some reason, Apple let other companies get ahead of them. My HOPE is that Apple is going for a:
iMac - 5K
iMac/15"rmbp - 4K
13"rmbp - 3K
advertising line. I'm looking for a 2880x1800 resolution on my 13" rmbp. I know it can handle it just give it to me already. I'm tired of scaling my laptop to run at a 1440x900 res.
iMac - 5K
iMac/15"rmbp - 4K
13"rmbp - 3K
advertising line. I'm looking for a 2880x1800 resolution on my 13" rmbp. I know it can handle it just give it to me already. I'm tired of scaling my laptop to run at a 1440x900 res.
You make the most sense..as I must agree with all you say here.
I however am not a nerd.....I a wannabe nerd......meaning, I have to work at it a lot harder than those of you here where it just comes natural to and although i am better than the average user, (which isn't saying much..LOL) I will never have the knowledge so of you have. But I "wanna" have it, but I just don't.
That being said, I'm a late converter to macs, as of only 2007 and i have had 2 macbook pros since and this week just broke down and purchase the retina iMac and not because i really need it but because I just wasn't "hit" with anything the line up has to offer these days but I also sadly understand that that is progress and we can't fight it.
I also wonder.....Jobs managed to make Apple very "cool". People that used macs were rebels where as PC users were run of the mill people.....Jobs somehow hid capitalism behind the facade of rebelliousness but now that he's gone, I can't help but feel that the rebel nature of Apple and its users is now going the way of the Floppy Drive/DVD Drive and just becoming average consumers
I understand what you mean there. Although not all Mac users are rebels and not all of them are followers, there was definitely a huge increase in mindless followers once the iPhone was released in 2007. In fact, Apple completely changed in 2007. (and so did the rest of the tech industry). Although, while that has been said, there are still (obviously) plenty of users who don't use Apple products because the next guy told me to, or something like that. (or as a trend). I use them because I cannot stand how bad Windows and Windows PCs are. I dislike how die-hard Windows fans think people who use Macs are all "sheep". That term did arise after the iPhone and the influx of Apple followers, but it is a huge generalization on the parts of die-hard Windows fans.
The 13 inch is almost at that already
The 13 inch is 2560x1600 and all you have to do is switch off the scaling via a third party resolution app such as switch res or similar.
There is a 5K imac and the 15 inch rMBP is over 3K.
They already have everything you are asking for so I hope that was sarcasm....
The 13 inch is 2560x1600 and all you have to do is switch off the scaling via a third party resolution app such as switch res or similar.
There is a 5K imac and the 15 inch rMBP is over 3K.
They already have everything you are asking for so I hope that was sarcasm....
Am I the only one disappointed with the "pro" line of MacBooks being offered right now?
I have bought 3 macbook pros over the last 5 years and todays offerings are truly pathetic!
No CD/DVD player?
Almost everything is non upgradable parts including ram? - Seriously?
Non GTX class Nvidia cards?
15 inch max screen?
I look at some of the PC equivalents like the Razer Blade Pro, or some of the ASUS, Dell XPS ultrabooks and the Macbook looks specs wise it was frozen in time. - What happened!
I also have a 2014 Macbook Pro Retina from work and its way slower than my 2011! I have clean installed it 3 times!
I was able to upgrade my Macbook Pro 2011, to a Samsung Evo 1TB SSD after the stock 7200rpm drive died in it and I bumped the ram to 16GB.
I was surely thinking that the Macbook Pro line would have improved over the last few years in performance and not just slimed in appearance. I really don't give a s*** about it being any thiner, it was just fine a little chunky! Just give me the speed and a future path to hardware upgrades!
The only reason I haven't switched back to a PC is because of OS X and iWork. but unfortunately the latest iWork suite sucks compared to the '09 builds and the latest OS X Yosemite is also dropping the ball.
Does Apple even care about the "Pro" users anymore?
So pissed off with this, was hoping to upgrade my 2013 Macbook pro in Jan. 8gb ram STILL on a PRO machine and no Magsafe (thats backward)...really very disappointed with this, too expensive for nothing new...oh apart from a childish touch Emoji bar.
I am disappointed with the new MBP too but seriously? You want a CD/DVD player? In 2016???
Perefect example. Look at the dates: 2014! Today nobody gives a crap about the CD drive. I think the MacBooks are a great improvment, maybe despite their prices
Opinion noted, but you've responded to a thread/post from the 2014 rMBP update, not the current devices announced today... Same name, different beast.
Ha I agree I haven't had a Mac yet that the "Superdrive" hasn't died in, never missed losing the DVD Drive one bit!
I expected the disappointment which is why I didn't wait for it.
USB-C only (BIG NO NO for me)
No SD slot
No MagSafe
No iconic glowing Apple logo
Butterfly keyboard
$500+ more than entry-level MacBook Airs which has the USB-A ports, SD slot, MagSafe, glowing Apple logo, and older keyboard. But for $500 more, you get a Magic Toolbar and Retina? I really don't know if the folks at Apple have been taking way too many bong hits or what?
Who knows next year if they decide to remove the 3.5mm headphone jack to follow the iPhone. Apple messed up like we are reliving the mid-1990's all over again. They not only ticked off iPhone users but Mac users as well.
Whether iPhones, iPads, and Macs, nothing special really came out this year. My favorite device from them is actually the iPhone SE. While that is a 3-4 year old design, they got most of the basics right and now only charges $450 for a 64gb model. That's the best bang for your buck product from Apple that was released this year without sacrificing the headphone jack. The Mighty Mouse of smartphones. The rest released this year seem like less-ported, overpriced bean counting products from Apple.
USB-C only (BIG NO NO for me)
No SD slot
No MagSafe
No iconic glowing Apple logo
Butterfly keyboard
$500+ more than entry-level MacBook Airs which has the USB-A ports, SD slot, MagSafe, glowing Apple logo, and older keyboard. But for $500 more, you get a Magic Toolbar and Retina? I really don't know if the folks at Apple have been taking way too many bong hits or what?
Who knows next year if they decide to remove the 3.5mm headphone jack to follow the iPhone. Apple messed up like we are reliving the mid-1990's all over again. They not only ticked off iPhone users but Mac users as well.
Whether iPhones, iPads, and Macs, nothing special really came out this year. My favorite device from them is actually the iPhone SE. While that is a 3-4 year old design, they got most of the basics right and now only charges $450 for a 64gb model. That's the best bang for your buck product from Apple that was released this year without sacrificing the headphone jack. The Mighty Mouse of smartphones. The rest released this year seem like less-ported, overpriced bean counting products from Apple.
EDIT: Deleted my post, decided I was just wasting my time. People are going to complain for everything, no matter what.
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This is me being totally honest, and not attacking. I'm really having to take this off my shoulders, because it's really annoying me. Just wanted to clarify.
I have been reading these forums for the last couple of months, and all I've seen was people complaining that Apple took too long to refresh/redesign their MacBook Pro lineup, and the funniest one of them all is, when people thought it was disrespectful for them not to upgrade their computers. WHAT?
Now;
- Apple updated MacBook Pros to 6th Generation Intel Processors - People wanted this, and Apple did it ✓
- Apple also updated their Pros with better GPUs (integrated and dedicated) - People wanted this, and Apple did it ✓
- Apple made the MBPs smaller, and lighter - People also wanted this, Apple did it ✓
- Apple introduced Space Grey MacBook Pros - People wanted more colours, Apple did it, once again ✓
Then time for actually putting the MacBooks on sale, everyone is complaining (excluding some people) about price, and the actual product itself.
Apple created the Touch Bar, to help professionals with their work etc. I understand that many people don't like that, but I guess we have to live with it. You don't have to buy their latest & greatest products, you can get refurbished and used MacBooks.
No one in this world forces you & puts a gun to your head, restricting you to Apple MacBook Pros only. You have other choices, such as Dell and Lenovo and such. So why complain? If you don't like what Apple does, you CAN buy other manufacturer's products.
I understand that the new MBPs are expensive, but there is also a price that you have to pay to get premium products. For God's sake, the thing runs macOS, has a premium feel & build quality, and simply just WORKS. What else could we want? I also understand that people wanted the MacBook Pros to have powerful NVIDIA GTX GPUs, but when you think about it, there are thermal issues with using High-End GPUs in such small enclosures.
So what do you want, portability or performance? There are compromises with both of those...
So many people complain that Apple doesn't give them what they want, AND then when they actually give us what they wanted, they also complain.
So, let the hate begin...
Ha, no hate from here. Most of what you said is why I personally have had Macs since the very first G3 iMac.
Loyal Mac users of "It Just works" are why Apple why they still exist as a company today, keeping them hanging on in those dark old days before iPods and iPhones filled Apples deep pockets once more.
Actually I've never before complained, they look beautiful, I get the Slim universal USB connection thing, I get that CD and DVDs are old hat (and always broke anyway) but this low fat update has truly lost its Pro appeal.
I want to upgrade my Ram like I could in my (Non Pro) G3 £600 iMac, or give it 16gb as standard.
I want to be able replace my battery without breaking it. I don't care its space grey, I even really don't care it has a touch bar for Emojis! I just feel we are being asked to paying more and more for less and less. Which included the ***** Magsafe!! why Apple Why??
Opps sorry, not sure how I picked it up....sad the thread is still relevant today then
Don't be sorry, no worries. I see 8/10-year-old threads picked up by new members - I've been around for not very long as well. FWIW, I don't agree too much with the negative perspectives shared by others here (or with Wall Street's prognosticators). As a civil engineer, about 12-13 years ago I needed a special type of concrete for a bridge overlay and it didn't "exist", so I worked with the State Concrete Engineer (yep, there's such a job) to invent what I needed. Apple doesn't have that invention option with Intel.Opps sorry, not sure how I picked it up....sad the thread is still relevant today then
Think about this bit. We got a new form factor, new interface elements (new keyboard structure and interactive touch strip, an improved display, new and much faster SSD tech, faster wifi - and the same old processor. As an insider to my own industry, IMHO there's somebody losing their job or bonus today because the sleek new toy got last-year's 4 cylinder engine. FWIW, my 10-year-old Benz with a massive quad-cam V8 will still blow away 99 percent of what's on the road today - BUT, I can still drive it at a speed about 30% of what it's capable of...
I'm going to wait until after the first of the year, or until the "refurb" Macs that get returned via buyer's remorse and snag one at a deep discount.
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