Disappointed with the new MacBook Pros

[3349793]

Ha, no hate from here. Most of what you said is why I personally have had Macs since the very first G3 iMac.

Loyal Mac users of "It Just works" are why Apple why they still exist as a company today, keeping them hanging on in those dark old days before iPods and iPhones filled Apples deep pockets once more.

Actually I've never before complained, they look beautiful, I get the Slim universal USB connection thing, I get that CD and DVDs are old hat (and always broke anyway) but this low fat update has truly lost its Pro appeal.

I want to upgrade my Ram like I could in my (Non Pro) G3 £600 iMac, or give it 16gb as standard.
I want to be able replace my battery without breaking it. I don't care its space grey, I even really don't care it has a touch bar for Emojis! I just feel we are being asked to paying more and more for less and less. Which included the ***** Magsafe!! why Apple Why??



Opps sorry, not sure how I picked it up....sad the thread is still relevant today then

I totally understand your point of view. I also miss upgrading (the fun of doing it as well) the RAM, and replacing the HDD with an SSD.

But, time is changing, and soldered components mean, better reliability, and many more factors.

 

[johnothy]

The new ones are too expensive. A couple friends were wanting one and are bummed over the high prices.

 

[wegster]

I'm wholly unimpressed by this release, so my upgrade from my 2011 MBP will be a used retina not-new-model MBP.
The pricing.
Lack of 32GB option for multiple VMs.
No Pencil on trackpad.
Mediocre graphics.
Pricing of SSD remains 'gold.'
AFAIK no reduction of footprint, e.g. a '14"' model compared to current/prior models with quad core.

I have NEVER been a MS fanboy. They recruited heavily from my college and I know people that have worked there, but was also around through some pretty questionable things they did while their software and OS wasn't impressive, let alone IE vs Netscape and the justice department, lots of reasons.

To see what MS has done with the Surface lineup makes me cringe - the innovation in that lineup is what I'd expect the iMac and MBPs to have become, and instead, we get a touch OLED strip and jacked even higher pricing. Yep, it's still Windows, but I am just shocked that Microsoft is leading on the innovation front, along with Lenovo. The 'dial' on the surface station - is just damned cool. The Surfacebook is a bit on the kludgy/thick side, and I'd expect Apple to do it better, yet they pulled off a quad core i7 in it.

My 2011 MBP replacement will be a used retina MBP and hope that Apple impresses me with subsequent upgrades, or I guess after 10+ years of MBPs, it will be a move to a Lenovo or MS convertible workstation running Linux with an OS X VM.

 

[Mechinyun]

Don't forget about the new garbage keyboard coming from the macbook. Good god man, apple is smoking crack.

 

[44267547]

The new ones are too expensive. A couple friends were wanting one and are bummed over the high prices.

That definitely seems to be one of the major concerns, is the price point.

 

[Coyote2006]

The Touch Bar is a nice idea, but I don't see me working with it how they did at the presentation. My fingers would fall apart after 20 minutes. The books are extremly powerful, feeding two big screens is no problem and all the same people are inteded to stare at the bar for hours? Also working with a MacBook as a main working machine means using a connected keyboard as it is much more comfortable. The caps are too far away from the bottom of the machine. And personnaly I don't like the track pad at all, I prefer a mouse, however. The tab bar idea is fine but not finished, a full replacement of the keyboard and the trackpad at the same time by a full digital keyboard ("The Touch Keyboard" ) would have been really great and a real step forward. I'm quite sure that Jobs would have done this ...
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That definitely seems to be one of the major concerns, is the price point.

That's always for Macs. At the end, you can work with these machines for years. I'm still working 10 hours per day on my (upgraded) MacPro bought 2008 and it's still fast enough. I do have to replace it now, because Sierra not anymore supported on this machine. Otherwise there would have been no reason to replace it...
If you see how fast these new MacBook Pros are, do you really intend to buy a new one within the next 3 years?

 

[0x100]

Don't be sorry, no worries. I see 8/10-year-old threads picked up by new members - I've been around for not very long as well. FWIW, I don't agree too much with the negative perspectives shared by others here (or with Wall Street's prognosticators). As a civil engineer, about 12-13 years ago I needed a special type of concrete for a bridge overlay and it didn't "exist", so I worked with the State Concrete Engineer (yep, there's such a job) to invent what I needed. Apple doesn't have that invention option with Intel.

Think about this bit. We got a new form factor, new interface elements (new keyboard structure and interactive touch strip, an improved display, new and much faster SSD tech, faster wifi - and the same old processor. As an insider to my own industry, IMHO there's somebody losing their job or bonus today because the sleek new toy got last-year's 4 cylinder engine. FWIW, my 10-year-old Benz with a massive quad-cam V8 will still blow away 99 percent of what's on the road today - BUT, I can still drive it at a speed about 30% of what it's capable of...

I'm going to wait until after the first of the year, or until the "refurb" Macs that get returned via buyer's remorse and snag one at a deep discount.

That written - welcome to MR Forums! Cheers!

The reason old threads get picked up is that Macrumors puts similar threads that are sometimes really old in the similar threads section.

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

This is the icing on the crap cake. Apple has been sucking now since around 2013, and now they've finally pissed off those who hadn't realized it initially. They have managed to screw up almost every computer in their line-up, screwed up their software, they fail to innovate, and they overhype dum and useless features. Tim Cook is sinking this ship.

Of course, Cookie always thinks everything is fine and dandy, so he won't address the issue. He probably still thinks that now is a better time than ever to have a new Mac.