Same here. In fact, I will have to admit, I was a little surprised that iPhoto was still on my 2015 MBPr running OS 10.11 GM. I mistakenly thought iphoto was dead and gone. When I try and open iPhoto, it will not open and it prompts me to upgrade, which we can't do. I don't want it, Apple no longer supports it, so why is it still there and why are we being told there is an update that does not exist?
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Discontinued Apple Software Returns to 'Purchased' Tab in Mac App Store
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Same here. In fact, I will have to admit, I was a little surprised that iPhoto was still on my 2015 MBPr running OS 10.11 GM. I mistakenly thought iphoto was dead and gone. When I try and open iPhoto, it will not open and it prompts me to upgrade, which we can't do. I don't want it, Apple no longer supports it, so why is it still there and why are we being told there is an update that does not exist?
..and this is a first time this has happened has it not ?
When i read "disappeared" i gathered removed from Purchased section, but in my case, OS X Mavericks was still listed, I just couldn't download it, got an error "This item is not available" or something similar.
ok, Whats really going on here ? They do this to the Apple TV accidentally for a Disney movie and now this... I'm not sure if we even got an explanation on that either
The system is slowly falling apart..... I do not think this is due just because of a new release....
When i read "disappeared" i gathered removed from Purchased section, but in my case, OS X Mavericks was still listed, I just couldn't download it, got an error "This item is not available" or something similar.
ok, Whats really going on here ? They do this to the Apple TV accidentally for a Disney movie and now this... I'm not sure if we even got an explanation on that either
The system is slowly falling apart..... I do not think this is due just because of a new release....
Very good points on all counts.
What Apple has built up will eventually either come crashing down or slowly grind to a halt. They're probably not anywhere near that point, but it's bound to happen. And when it happens, it won't be because of keyboard warriors fighting for what they think is right. It will happen because people stop buying their products in large numbers.
Like you said (and the quote in your signature successfully points out), humans love to exalt and destroy. MacRumors is clearly a place of destruction.
Except the missing OSes "disappeared" for only about three days. In your vast theory, what exactly made them "turn around" this "decision" so fast? Some hundred angry postings on MacRumors? Seventy posts on reddit? Very, very doubtful that this minuscule reaction would lead to Apple changing its collective mind.
At most, this tiny bit of noise alerted Apple to a quality problem that they promptly fixed; and if that's the case, they deserve plaudits, not condemnation, for paying attention and reacting so quickly. But it seems far more likely that the downloads disappeared for a couple of days as a side effect of some routine maintenance, and they were coming back anyway. Because, as a veteran of a large tech company, i can assure you that it is extremely uncommon-- and difficult-- for large companies to address problems as quickly as it "appeared" Apple did,
Competent companies typically give some sort of warning before randomly pulling software out.
But we get it, Apple does no wrong, right? Oh wait, never mind, they put the software back on the store.
You're on your own here.
Please don't make sense here!
MR posters like conspiracy theories and the sky is falling comments.
To me that was actually a great wake up call for users. Anybody finding this out running older OS software and not backing things up now is downright dumb.
Then there will be the millions who just go about using their older Macs as they always have and only come to a screeching halt when Apple really pulls the plug. (I would think by announcing that first)
10.8.5 and CS3 on my MP at work because I can not longer print to my $27,000 plotter if I upgrade to 10.9. The CS 3 will likely be remedied eventually but it works fine so it's not exactly on my priority list to the boss.
So how do I download these previous purchases?
They have been re-added to my Purchased tab. I want to download and save them in case I ever lose access again.
Xcode for Snow Leopard: "Xcode Install Assistant can’t be installed on “Macintosh SSD” because the version of OS X is too new."
10.7 / Lion: "This version of Mac OS X 10.7 cannot be installed on this computer."
I'd like to save these. I have some older systems that still use this software.
They have been re-added to my Purchased tab. I want to download and save them in case I ever lose access again.
Xcode for Snow Leopard: "Xcode Install Assistant can’t be installed on “Macintosh SSD” because the version of OS X is too new."
10.7 / Lion: "This version of Mac OS X 10.7 cannot be installed on this computer."
I'd like to save these. I have some older systems that still use this software.
The lack of iPhoto in the App Store is unacceptable for users who can't update past 10.6.8. My in-laws have an older mac and we had to pirate a copy because the legitimate version was gone after a software reinstall and it wasn't included on the installation discs that came with the machine.
Shame on Apple for their forced obsolescence.
Shame on Apple for their forced obsolescence.
The iPhone camera is not real? Oh no! What have I been doing the past 7 years? My photos are all a lie! Made up by Apple and not really what I intended on capturing. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
This! A thousand times! Apple wants to "make up some space"? Fine. Let me know in advance, say 1 year should be enough. With a reminder 1 month before deletion. Then let people opt whether they want to download a copy of the installer themselves, or sent them an installer medium (DVD or memory stick of choice).
Or just provide the archives for ****ing forever! Because, y'know, I even paid for e.g. their "free" OS upgrades!
Go and check how Apple does their tax declarations, buddy! Specifically their revenue part! Be surprised - and learn how to give your tax declaration "a good polish"!
Example: Apple produces a Mac for 1000$ (hardware costs, assembly, shipping) and sells it to you today - tax year 2015 - for 3000$. So Apple has to declare a revenue for that unit of roughly 2000$ for the year 2015, right?
Wrong! They "spread/distribute" those 2000$ over the next N years (N being like 5) and deduct further "costs" like support, software development (sic!) whenever it best fits their bill, because: "less net gain, less tax to pay". So they claim to have made the gain ("what's left of those 2000$ in their books") in those years where they have the most expenses anyway (e.g. "No new product category, but heavy research year").
Off course that's just the basics: it gets even better when some random "Apple Sales Limited" company made those gains in the non-US, so you don't have to declare the gains in the first place (in the US)...
The bottom line is: YES, you PAID for every software that came and will come with/for your Mac! You ****ing paid for it! For every single line of code! And it goes without saying that you should have access to that software at any time! Just like I still have access to Snow Leopard that came as DVD!
Speak for yourself! First we're not talking "support" here, but "availability". Second, and most importantly: we're talking "forever", not "as long as the hardware runs".
Apple decided to stop shipping installer media? That's fine! For them. They save big bucks in not producing DVDs and boxes, let alone storage room and shipping.
Now provide those installer copies for forever!
Well, yes, the good news is Aperture 3.6 is back in the list, bad news is that it still won't download!
"This item is temporarily unavailable.
Try again later."
Sigh
/me holds both middle fingers up towards Cupertino
"This item is temporarily unavailable.
Try again later."
Sigh
/me holds both middle fingers up towards Cupertino
Earlier today, we noted Apple had recently removed older versions of OS X and other discontinued software from the Purchased tab of the Mac App Store for users who had previously purchased or downloaded them. The apps, which included Aperture, iPhoto, OS X Lion, OS X Mountain Lion and OS X Mavericks, have now returned to the Purchased tab.
The disappearance of the ability to re-download older software irked users, with some calling the action "user hostile." It's unclear if Apple pulled the software intentionally or whether the Mac App Store experienced a temporary bug in advance of the availability of OS X El Capitan. However, the software was unavailable for several days before returning tonight.
Only one of the apps, Aperture, will continue to be compatible with OS X El Capitan.
Update: As noted by several readers, some discontinued software including Logic Pro 9 and older versions of OS X Server remain unavailable for re-download from the Purchased tab.
Thanks, Matthew!
Article Link: Discontinued Apple Software Returns to 'Purchased' Tab in Mac App Store
Aperture doesn't have an installer, can't you just drag/drop a copy from a clone/backup? Unless you don't have a copy on a clone/backup?
If you really belive what you are saying ok, but just to make things clear, Apple like any company is in the business for the money.... (even though some people here really belive they are in the business to make our life better........no comment)
As much as i am an Apple fan, do you really belive they would "loose" 129$ and be kind and give anyone the OS for free?? (keep in mind the latest OS X on the yearly cycle have been more bug fixes than new releases...so it would have been like Microsoft making you pay for Service Packs).
It's like saying I never paid for the firmware on my car radio... so that must have been free as well...
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If Affinity Photo gets a decent extension for "Photos" I highly suggest that. That's what I'm hoping for anyway.
But yes, I agree.
Yes, in that case, yes I would.
point taken.
My 2011 iMac i7 came with Lion, which for the most part can be said was included in the price of my iMac. Since then Apple has put out Mountain Lion (free), Yosemite (free) and as of yesterday El Capitan, FREE. I have been able to upgrade my iMac with 3 new OS's that otherwise would've costed me $129 back in the day. Sure, Apple didn't put out new OS's every year back in the day but what does that matter? It's not like it's required to upgrade my iMac each year. At the end of the day I got 3 OS upgrades free of charge with some nice features that weren't available with the OS that came with my iMac.
In terms of what I said about Macs not being charged more as the years went by. I remember when the 17" Powerbook was $3200. I also remember when 15" iMacs were $2000. Now you can get a 27" 5K iMac for $2000. Now Macbook Pro's with more features and more power are about $2500. The only Mac that has gone crazy in price is the new Mac Pro.
And let's not even talk about the "proud" and somewhat obnoxious and arrogant Hackintosh users who feel they beat the system by installing OS X on non-Apple hardware. So they aren't paying Apple any money, yet they get access to the App Store to download El Captian yesterday, free of charge. Thank you.
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Piracy always got you stuff for free (this is how they got OS X in their Hackintosh Box in the first place)...so Hackintosh getting a free update is like going to a torrent site and dloading photoshop and believe Adobe gave it to you for free...
You are welcome!
Sorry you are not getting it. By the very nature of supplying an installer you are implying support. When Gramps Joe installs an old copy of iPhoto by mistake and it screws up the machine then he's going to be calling Apple.
But as I said they took them down to resist them on their systems... Just like that have done for the past 2 upgrades. This is a non story.
No, got busy with work/life, didn't upgrade my daily driver Mac to 10.10 until Aperture had been removed.. Had a Mac mini running 10.10 but I didn't have Aperture on it, so no Aperture update on that either.. Now, Aperture for 10.10 it's back as listed, but still won't update..
Have one i7 iMac that will stay on 10.9 w/ Aperture.. working.. until I break down and downgrade to Lightroom, or until there's a Photos extension from Apple, or a third party, that makes it .. useful... shrug.