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It's straight 10% back, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was 10% cash back on top of the quarterly 5% bonus. This quarter is Amazon, department stores, and clothing stores. Shopping at department/clothing stores with Apple Pay might actually get you 15% cash back.

that's how it's worked in the past... like when they had bonus cash back deals around the holidays... you'd get your regular bonuses plus the additional special bonuses... so that's pretty cool! would work at macy*s.... (not amazon since those aren't made in store) not sure what other stores have apple pay??? kohls maybe?
 
Not a Discover customer and don't plan to be but wow, 10% off purchases through Apple Pay should be huge for them. Not only does it improve their relationship with existing customers but this is going to bring in a ton of new customers (and encourage spending) in the months leading up to Christmas.

Would be interesting to see what the average customer ends up spending of the $10,000 limit.

I'm afraid to answer that question. Any spending I can possibly charge to Discover goes there, including car insurance, home insurance, cable bill, phone bills, groceries, etc. We have a baby on the way and between Whole Foods and BJs plan to stock up on a ton of diapers, etc. This offer is going to save us a ton of money.
 
0.05% worldwide. It's higher in the US because we're still using the magstripe.

Apple Pay is rolling out worldwide, which is why I used the world figures. However, the Apple cut is still more than US fraud rates.

Not to mention that the US is moving to chip, which should drop card present fraud rates even more.

Also, a lot of the costs that you mention are mostly one-time costs regardless of the mobile payment systems the issuer chooses to support, so it won't cost nearly as much to support, say, Samsung Pay or Android Pay later.

Doesn't matter. The claim was that Apple Pay was more convenient and did not add extra cost for the banks. That's not true.

Btw, those are not one-time costs, as anyone in IT knows. Servers costs plenty of money to maintain.

As a side note, for issuers who rely on networks to handle tokenization, those related costs add up too. For example, Mastercard gets:
  • 50 cents to create a token
  • + 10 cents per token per month to keep it "alive"
  • + 2.5 cents per token/detokenization
... I wish there was someone knowledgeable that could give insight into what Discover could have added to their backend system to prevent the update requirement, or what Apple had to add to their client software to make payment communication possible. It's all speculation otherwise.

If I had to guess, I'd say that Apple had to add either the Discover payment Java applet to the iPhone's and Watch's Secure Elements... or support for it, or both... via an OS update.

Remember, Apple doesn't do any payment processing itself for NFC. That's all done by each credit network's proprietary applet in the secure element, which are the only pieces of software allowed to talk to the merchant terminal.

(The secure element has a processor, that when activated by the NFC radio, looks at the transaction and picks the correct stored payment applet ... e.g. MC / Visa / AMEX / Discover... to hook to the radio.)
 
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A bummer about the in store requirement. It would have been sweet to shop at Apple store app using Discover and get the 10 percent.

If only my grocery store would accept Apple Pay, I'd get my $10,000 before the year was up. Give that place way too much money. :)

The in-store requirement is a huge downer for me. I was planning on getting a fridge from Best Buy and using Discover Apple Pay for that to get 10% cash back. But because Best Buy only supports Apple Pay in app, and Discover doesn't allow it, I guess that won't be happening. :( (PS, I am moving in the next month and I need a fridge before doing that. I would totally wait for Best Buy to activate NFC in its stores again if I didn't want my food to spoil at my new place!)
 
Isn't there a deadline in the U.S. for these systems to be working sometime this autumn? I think that might be the reason that all of these places are installing them but few of them are actually turned on yet.
I think it's October. I work at an OfficeMax. Last October they came in and put in new terminals but the chip reader didn't yet work. One person was able to use Apple Pay. That store closed in January and at the store I'm at now people can pay with Apple Pay all day long. But the chip reader still doesn't work. Only last month did the card reader at Target finally tell me that I can't swipe my card, that I HAVE TO use the chip reader.
 
Apple Pay is rolling out worldwide, which is why I used the world figures. However, the Apple cut is still more than US fraud rates.

Not to mention that the US is moving to chip, which should drop card present fraud rates even more.

Actually, for the US in 2013:
  • $4.077 trillion in total card spend (source)
  • $7.1 billion of that was fraudulent (source)
7.1/4077 = 0.17% > 0.15%, thus Apple Pay still saves the banks money. The situation is, of course, different elsewhere. Plus chip isn't going to happen on a widespread basis for a while even with the liability shift; tons of merchants are either extremely behind in migrating or simply aren't bothering.
 
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you can have other discover cards like the roads card converted to IT
You won't get your double cashback, I am afraid. That promo for existing customers was over two months back. For those who convert now, double cashback is not available; only the new accounts are eligible.
 
I just tried to add my discover card on my iPad Air 2 running iOS 9 and it came back telling me my issuer doesn't support Apple Pay.

I thought this was supposed to work now?
 
Has anybody tried to use Discover Apple Pay with Apple Watch and 5S? I see inconsistent reports, some say it's working, some say you have to get watchOS 2 loaded (but it's delayed).
 
I added it on my phone but kept getting errors saying "Could not add card". So I kept persisting and it finally went through. Now I'm having the same issue on my watch. Anyone else in the same boat?
 
"I would rather accept two live chickens or a jar of pennies worth less than the bill than a Discover Card."
 
I used Apple Pay on my watch running gm. Hoping to see reward CB at 10% in the next couple days. It doesn't show Apple Pay when looking at the transaction, but maybe when it clears?
 
They need to dedicate more of their time to get more locations to accept Apple Pay.
 
I'm disappointed that the design of my actual Discover card doesn't show up in the Wallet app. It shows a generic silver It card, instead of my Chicago Blackhawks-branded card.
 
I did a restore and this time it asked me to add my iTunes credit card, which is Discover. It added it that way, but not when I tried manually.
 
The in-store requirement is a huge downer for me. I was planning on getting a fridge from Best Buy and using Discover Apple Pay for that to get 10% cash back. But because Best Buy only supports Apple Pay in app, and Discover doesn't allow it, I guess that won't be happening. :( (PS, I am moving in the next month and I need a fridge before doing that. I would totally wait for Best Buy to activate NFC in its stores again if I didn't want my food to spoil at my new place!)
I'm sure glad that I waited one day. Sounds like Best Buy will be accepting Apple Pay soon!
 
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They need to dedicate more of their time to get more locations to accept Apple Pay.
IMO, this is a pretty brilliant way to help do that.

Before, if a store didn't take ApplePay, it was no big deal... you swipe, and you're done. Probably not worth complaining about.

But now that folks are not getting 10% cash back when they have to swipe, ... I think a lot of them are going find that worthy of complaining about.
 
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I woke up to my Discover being automatically deleted from Apple Pay. Oh well. I guess I will add it back again?

One thing I prefer about my Amex is that they send you notifications for EVERY transaction. That is so convenient, especially when picking up family who are shopping, you know when to expect them to leave the store, etc.

Discover I tested yesterday and it only sends you a notification for an Apple Pay transaction.
 
Has anybody tried to use Discover Apple Pay with Apple Watch and 5S? I see inconsistent reports, some say it's working, some say you have to get watchOS 2 loaded (but it's delayed).
Answering my own question: you can't add Discover card to Apple watch unless watchOS 2 is installed even with iOS 9 on iPhone 5s. Apple Store people told me they were expecting watchOS 2 on Friday.
 
@semka you can download the beta profile if you want to get gm 2.0 on your watch. I added my card no problem and used it yesterday
 
What's the difference?
cashback is money that goes back into your credit card account, which you can redeem as a statement credit. 10% off is simply 10% off, buy a $100 item with 10% off is $90+tax, but this is not the case with this offer.
 
Unfortunately, this only works for personal Discover cards. If you have a small business card, you cannot participate with Apple Pay. I am disappointed! Com'on Discover. Don't do this half way!
 
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