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Netflix and Disney is to provide a service I want to buy and in return I’ll pay for the service. That is where it starts and ends.

The strip club analogy from earlier explains what you’re saying perfectly.

It's like going to a strip club. You don't walk in expecting you're going to walk out with a girlfriend. You know and understand that you're there to have a good time, and these girls are there to drain you of as much money as they possibly can. As long as you both understand this, you're in a prime position to enjoy yourself. The second you misunderstand the relationship, it's all over.
 
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Streaming services will be fine for a while.

Remember that some of the most popular shows on streaming are shows from the 90's like The Office, Seinfeld, etc.

But yes... I am worried for the actors and writers in the future.
One thing that is now certainly gone: product pitch persons. That's now an AI job. No more Toyota Jan, ATT Lilly, Progressive Flo. They require salaries, and can become controversial. Think Subway Jared.
 
Nothing justifies these increases but corporate greed! It’s not like any of that money goes to the workers or actors anyway.
Disney’s streaming services aren’t making a profit, they’re losing money. Company stocks are way down. Disney was going in such a downward direction that Iger had to come out of retirement and lay off thousands of workers, cancel projects, and revamp their strategy.
Are you absolutely sure about your statements?
 
We’re ditching Paramount also. There’s nothing there we want besides Star Trek and I can get those episodes off my streaming British TV (and download but you didn’t hear that).

HBO (Max in the USA) is good enough to keep because a ton of Discovery Channel stuff went there. Disco+ is redundant when you have Max and there’s more to watch.
Yer, I’m a Trekkie. Looked forward to Picard. It eventually aired here as 5.1, BUT only in German. Original in English remains 2.0…cannot do it .
 
Disney’s streaming services aren’t making a profit, they’re losing money. Company stocks are way down. Disney was going in such a downward direction that Iger had to come out of retirement and lay off thousands of workers, cancel projects, and revamp their strategy.
Are you absolutely sure about your statements?
Part of that may be due to Florida’s “War on Everything That Isn’t (REDACTED)”
 
Streaming is a classic example of dangling the carrot from the stick. A bunch of ppl bought into it early on due to very low prices and now that prices are going up, they feel outraged and offended. Streaming platforms are slowly becoming the classic cable companies of today...offering hundreds of channels that you don't want and raising prices to subsidize said channels
 
Maybe, just maybe, this is because all their stuff is spread across three platforms and…well…any damn idiot can see that you need ONE umbrella and not THREE or more.

Also maybe, just maybe, near hyperinflation (you know, the whole “Give Every American $4000 Act of 2020” signed into law by an orange man) means that the operating costs of doing business has increased so dramatically that they are forced to raise prices on all three services (again, see previous paragraph).
Or maybe..... The fact that they have stupid huge budgets for **** shows (looking at you Secret Invasion) is part of the reason. Giving a series a 200+ million budget is crazy (and it wasn't even a good series at that). What they need to do is be realistic with their budgets and costs instead of ballooning everything up (same with most movie budgets these days). Blaming a previous administration for something 3 years down the road is laughable (especially when the majority of the reason everything is so expensive now is from corporate greed and trying to milk every cent out of their customer base).
 
Ugh, another price increase. Soon streaming will cost as much as cable.
I pay $39 for 300/300 (FIOS), $9 for Paramount plus and I have Amazon Prime (I don't count that as I have always had it). We also have IPTV for $10 a month, Pluto (free), IMDB (Free), Crackle (Free), TeaTV (free), HGTVgo (free) and so many more---Total $58 per month and more choices than I had with basic cable @ $250 per month.
 
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Giving a series a 200+ million budget is crazy

The company predicted (wrongly to be fair) that it would make at least $200,000,001 based on viewing and subscriptions to Mouse+. It happens. Look at Bud Light after just one custom made can.

Or it could be a “loss leader.” This is still common even in the current recession-like economy we have to face as a direct result of the money elves and multiple other factors. Many of the old five-and-dimes had a restaurant that was a “loss leader.” (The only exception I’ve ever found was G. C. Murphy)
 
Ridiculous! Already cancelled Netflix and Spotify due to price hikes. Nothing justifies these increases but corporate greed! It’s not like any of that money goes to the workers or actors anyway.
I mean this article did just say that they reported a $512 million loss, down from $1.2 billion loss the year before. It’s not really corporate greed when you’re losing that much money. People need to realize that this model is just not sustainable and unfortunately is not gonna last much longer. So I guess enjoy it while you can lol.
 
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They were all going to do it, Netflix just went first and made it easier for the others. None of them want to allow password sharing, every share represents a non-paying viewer.
Sorry but I have to disagree with this thesis. Every share represents a potential non-paying viewer. My account is on the Apple TVs that my parents have and my in-laws have so that when my kids are visiting if they need to just chill out and watch a movie they can. The number of times either home watched something on their own is near zero, and the number of things the number of accounts Disney+ would have had from them if I didn't subscribe would still be zero.
 
People need to realize that this model is just not sustainable and unfortunately is not gonna last much longer

When Netflix and Hulu started, the entire friggin point was that you had two stops to watch everything you wanted.

Companies saw this and said, “WE WANT ALL OF THE MONEY AND NETFLIX/HULU CAN SUCK EGGS.” And…here we are with bajillions of subscription services. It’s all about the bottom line as many have already said.

Now the bottom line is sucking because the model of 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 pay services was never sustainable and no consumer that isn’t stupidly rich would subscribe to all of them anyway.

That is part of the appeal of Max right now. ONE STOP = HBO, DC, Discovery, etc. I can cancel Disco+ and not miss it because everything I see there is on Max.

Disney just needs to 100% consolidate into Hulu or Mouse+. Consumers are not spending for it anymore as 200 separate things.
 
Ridiculous! Already cancelled Netflix and Spotify due to price hikes. Nothing justifies these increases but corporate greed! It’s not like any of that money goes to the workers or actors anyway.
And it's not the increase itself. They do it with some other crap at the same time. And it's how often and by how much places raise prices anymore
 
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Taking the AT&T (DirecTV) way of dealing with losses. That worked so well to increase subscriber counts. /s
I cut ties with DirecTV after 27 years, almost all of it on their top tier package (most recently my bills were $220 a month...). I stayed due to inertia, familiarity, and getting all the premiums under one login. I left to follow Sunday Ticket and am trying to stay on the basic package to see what I actually miss. I glanced at all the add on fees and it certainly looked that by the time I added everything everything that my bill wouldn't really be all that much different.
 
We’re ditching Paramount also. There’s nothing there we want besides Star Trek and I can get those episodes off my streaming British TV (and download but you didn’t hear that).

Yer, I’m a Trekkie. Looked forward to Picard. It eventually aired here as 5.1, BUT only in German. Original in English remains 2.0…cannot do it .
Have you seen Star Trek Lower Decks? Fun show
 
Looks like I’ll be downgrading to the the ad-supported bundle once the money back offer I get with my AMEX card is up in November. Fortunately, these companies make it easy to switch between plans, so I can switch to the ad-free plan if there is something my wife and I want to watch on a particular month.
 
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What's so hard about having an account for individuals, and a family plan for families? That's so egregious that you've decided not only to steal, but to proudly announce that also?

What did the people who stole/made available stolen content to you have to do with the production of that content? What about all the people who worked on bringing that content to life also? Can those people **** themselves also because streaming services would like people to pay for access to their content?
That’s a pretty **** take dude.

If they didn’t want people sharing passwords, maybe they shouldn’t have LITERALLY ENCOURAGED it beforehand. At the very least, they could have limited the accounts to 2 or 3 IP addresses or something reasonable instead of snatching it from everyone.

It’s just corporate greed, and it has nothing to do with Actors & Writers getting paid more. “Inflation” is just a scapegoat for them to justify it. And it will continue to get worse, and these companies will continue to overreach because people like you really don’t have a backbone to stand on anything and would rather shrug their shoulders, lie down and take whatever non-sense is thrown at you.
 
That’s a pretty **** take dude.

If they didn’t want people sharing passwords, maybe they shouldn’t have LITERALLY ENCOURAGED it beforehand. At the very least, they could have limited the accounts to 2 or 3 IP addresses or something reasonable instead of snatching it from everyone.

It’s just corporate greed, and it has nothing to do with Actors & Writers getting paid more. “Inflation” is just a scapegoat for them to justify it. And it will continue to get worse, and these companies will continue to overreach because people like you really don’t have a backbone to stand on anything and would rather shrug their shoulders, lie down and take whatever non-sense is thrown at you.

Can you show me where in Netflix's official policy that they literally encouraged people to share passwords? I get that there was a joke tweet and all, but can we get more official on Netflix designing their platform specifically so that many people would share a single account, even in different locations?

"Corporate Greed," god that's getting old. Companies exist to make money. I pay companies money when I think they make good content for a good value. I don't subscribe to all streaming services, just the ones that makes sense for me. Would I like for things to be cheaper? Sure, I'll never complain about that, but have things haven't gotten to a point where I think prices are outrageous? Not even close. If they have though, most people will cancel their subscriptions and the company will be forced to re-think their pricing. How likely is that to happen, do you think?

At the end of the day, I haven't seen a single argument for why people should be allowed to share passwords with each other that didn't amount to "I want to spend less," which is a flimsy argument.
 
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