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Disney Artists Go Hands-On With Upcoming iPad Pro and Apple Pencil

I kind of find this funny... and could see a parody of it being made where Apple introduces the Apple iPaper and iPencil and lets the artists at Disney test out the new products by drawing a picture on paper with their pencil. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I would bet that if Apple branded a plain ole piece of paper as Apple's new iPaper... there will be some of you who will buy it and think it is 'amazing', 'powerful', 'brilliant' and 'advanced'.
 
vampyr said:
I kind of find this funny... and could see a parody of it being made where Apple introduces the Apple iPaper and iPencil and lets the artists at Disney test out the new products by drawing a picture on paper with their pencil. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I would bet that if Apple branded a plain ole piece of paper as Apple's new iPaper... there will be some of you who will buy it and think it is 'amazing', 'powerful', 'brilliant' and 'advanced'.
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Cool story, bro.
 
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This is just hype. Pro animators either draw by hand or use Wacom Cintiqs and are not switching to this far less capable iPad Pro. It's not even compatible with the software they use and it's multiple generations behind Wacom's technology.
 
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fa8362 said:
This is just hype. Pro animators either draw by hand or use Wacom Cintiqs and are not switching to this far less capable iPad Pro. It's not even compatible with the software they use and it's multiple generations behind Wacom's technology.
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Going by the feature list, and the way things look from those videos, I'd say Apple might be catching up with Wacom on the feature front. The only thing they don't have are completely passive styli (styluses?), which Wacom all but owns the concept of.
 
Renzatic said:
Going by the feature list, and the way things look from those videos, I'd say Apple might be catching up with Wacom on the feature front. The only thing they don't have are completely passive styli (styluses?), which Wacom all but owns the concept of.
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They are nowhere close to catching up. The Wacoms work will all major professional graphic programs. The Apple iPad Pro doesn't and it's technology is inferior by generations. The Apple is just a toy compared to the Wacoms.
 
fa8362 said:
They are nowhere close to catching up. The Wacoms work will all major professional graphic programs. The Apple iPad Pro doesn't and it's technology is inferior by generations. The Apple is just a toy compared to the Wacoms.
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From a general functionality standpoint, I mean. The latest nTrig digtizers from MS have 1024 levels of sensitivity, and Apple's implementation has the tilt functions. You have to admit that this is the first time in a long, long while that someone has been able to stand toe to toe with Wacom on having comparable features.

Though you are right about one thing. Apple's offering doesn't have the app support, and MS' is only available on the Surfaces. Wacom still has the wider reach.
 
fa8362 said:
They are nowhere close to catching up. The Wacoms work will all major professional graphic programs. The Apple iPad Pro doesn't and it's technology is inferior by generations. The Apple is just a toy compared to the Wacoms.
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Oh really. Says who?

fa8362 said:
This is just hype. Pro animators either draw by hand or use Wacom Cintiqs and are not switching to this far less capable iPad Pro. It's not even compatible with the software they use and it's multiple generations behind Wacom's technology.
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So the folks from Disney and Pixar that are want this device are what exactly? I think I'll trust their judgement over a random poster on MR.
 
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Does anyone know if Apple introduced any handwriting and/or shape recognition API's? MS showed some shape recognition stuff during the keynote, but I don't remember Apple mentioning anything about supporting that at the OS level.

It would seem logical, considering the Newton had it almost 25 years ago.
 
Karma*Police said:
Does anyone know if Apple introduced any handwriting and/or shape recognition API's? MS showed some shape recognition stuff during the keynote, but I don't remember Apple mentioning anything about supporting that at the OS level.

It would seem logical, considering the Newton had it almost 25 years ago.
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The Newton had a lot of things, most of them didn't work very well.
 
Larry-K said:
The Newton had a lot of things, most of them didn't work very well.
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You're thinking about the original MessagePad which was rushed to market. By the time they released the MessagePad 2100 a couple of years later, handwriting recognition was outstanding.

It was so good that it holds up well to today's systems. Unfortunately for Apple, they couldn't recover from the bad publicity generated by the first MessagePad... as evidenced by your comments.
 
Karma*Police said:
You're thinking about the original MessagePad which was rushed to market. By the time they released the MessagePad 2100 a couple of years later, handwriting recognition was outstanding.

It was so good that it holds up well to today's systems. Unfortunately for Apple, they couldn't recover from the bad publicity generated by the first MessagePad... as evidenced by your comments.
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I love revisionist history.
 
Ok. Hands up who remember the Apple Pencil? Well done that man at the back.
Ok. Who bought a Ipad Pro? Yes. Very good. And you don't regret it in any way whatsoever?

That's fantastic. Ok you two ...here's a pencil. And an A4 piece of paper. I want you to draw a visual representation of why those items, singly or combined, were well deserving of your disposable income.

Excellent. Now? Now you go. Thanks
 
Rogifan said:
So the folks from Disney and Pixar that are want this device are what exactly? I think I'll trust their judgement over a random poster on MR.
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Just curious where did you come up with that these people want to use and implement these devices?

the reports about Pixar and Disney are that Apple took Demo units of iPad pro's to these companies to demonstrate and test, and while they were impressed, at no point did any of these articles indicate that any company is actually ordering them.
 
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Ok. Hands up who remember the Apple Pencil? Well done that man at the back.
Ok. Who bought a Ipad Pro? Yes. Very good. And you don't regret it in any way whatsoever?

That's fantastic. Ok you two ...here's a pencil. And an A4 piece of paper. I want you to draw a visual representation of why those items, singly or combined, were well deserving of your disposable income.

Excellent. Now? Now you go. Thanks
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you sound overly judgemental about how other's spend their own disposable income :p
 
Mikey44 said:
Didn't they just do that for Pixar recently too?
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Yep. Smart move. Disney and Pixar are two of the biggest drawing focused companies that most folks will recognize. An endorsement, no matter how vague, will carry weight with both pros and general consumers

baryon said:
So you charge the pencil via Lightning? How the hell does that work - you have to charge it from your iPad?? But then you can't really use the iPad while it's charging the pencil because it sticks out at the bottom, but also you can't charge the iPad while it's charging the pencil because you've clogged up its only port...
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it takes like five minutes to fully charge it. You really wanna say there's not five minutes you don't need the pen or to charge the iPad.
 
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Larry-K said:
I love revisionist history.
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I'm not sure how you can make such comments never having owned a MP2100. Because if you owned one, you'd know what I was taking about and you'd be able to compare it to a modern Win tablet yourself.

I work for a Win OEM and for kicks, that's exactly what we did. In many cases the MP's HW recognition was actually a tick faster (and just as accurate) which blew our engineers away. It obviously wasn't scientific, but it showed just how advanced the Newton was for its time. In fact, some of the best UI concepts we take for granted today, such as data detectors and predictive intelligent came from Newton.

Like I said, Apple was never able to overcome the bad rap of the first MP, and your comment is proof of that.
 
Karma*Police said:
I'm not sure how you can make such comments never having owned a MP2100. Because if you owned one, you'd know what I was taking about and you'd be able to compare it to a modern Win tablet yourself.

I work for a Win OEM and for kicks, that's exactly what we did. In many cases the MP's HW recognition was actually a tick faster (and just as accurate) which blew our engineers away. It obviously wasn't scientific, but it showed just how advanced the Newton was for its time. In fact, some of the best UI concepts we take for granted today, such as data detectors and predictive intelligent came from Newton.

Like I said, Apple was never able to overcome the bad rap of the first MP, and your comment is proof of that.
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I here you and concur. I have a MP, and used a 2100 in grad school. I certainly was a very capable device, considering the tech at the time. I had a modem and VT100 emulator that allowed me to access many of the schools programs, and HWR was good enough of note taking. I hope Apple builds HWR into the iPad Po at some point. That would be killer.
 
ipedro said:
I was planning on getting one until several minutes later when they revealed 3D Touch for the iPhone 6s. Once you've used 3D Touch, it's hard to go back to not having it. Releasing a brand new flagship product without the latest tech is a big mistake.
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This. I actually bought an Air 2 the other day and it's already weird not having 3D Touch!
 
LordVic said:
Just curious where did you come up with that these people want to use and implement these devices?

the reports about Pixar and Disney are that Apple took Demo units of iPad pro's to these companies to demonstrate and test, and while they were impressed, at no point did any of these articles indicate that any company is actually ordering them.
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At the end of the video a couple of the artists say they want the iPad Pro and want to order some. It's at the very, very end of the video.
It is true that neither Pixar nor Disney themselves said they plan to order these, but then again how often do large companies announce the exact product they plan to purchase for their employees?

Kal.
 
Renzatic said:
You have to admit that this is the first time in a long, long while that someone has been able to stand toe to toe with Wacom on having comparable features.
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We really needed it too. Wacom has been operating unchallenged for way too long, and that lack of competition has left their tech stagnant. They periodically improve linearity and/or pressure sensitivity, but other things never change much (parallax, hardware tracking latency, edge accuracy). They have the best stuff on the market right now, but only if buy one of their devices (the digitizers they sell to 3rd parties as seen in SP1/2, Note series, etc. aren't nearly as good).

It's definitely time for some competition here. You can debate the whole issue of being stuck on iOS (I agree that it would be very limiting in the current software landscape), but it's still the best possible news for digital pen technology in general to have Apple and MS both developing their own competing systems.
 
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