If you look closely, to scale they are actually quite huge. The photos here don't make it super obvious.
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Disney Artists Go Hands-On With Upcoming iPad Pro and Apple Pencil
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If you look closely, to scale they are actually quite huge. The photos here don't make it super obvious.
Can you explain how a paper and pencil can mark up edits or comments on a PDF during a board meeting and email those edits/comments right from where you are?
from I've watched/read, the pros from Disney/Pixar only has positive experience with the device and whatever they were using.
I think I have indentations on my ipad screen now.
Had to to think that if 3D touch is on the ipad next year the brand new mini and air 2 will be replaced.
i actually didnt care for the use of the word mistake but i could hardly change it since its from another posters post. to use that world imo you would have to be able to show the consequences of the decision.
well a few people know. i would say considering how much we know about how much apple likes to differentiate between models and versions that this was an intentional omission but either way apples extremely rigid release cycle makes it all the worse. for these two ipad models we are talking about a full year which is a long time and i can certainly understand people being upset.
Sure and I'm not excusing it just saying we don't know for certain why it didn't come to iPad Pro. Sometimes I think marketing has too much influence at Apple. That's why we have bloated product lines, so they can hit all these different price points and upsell people to more expensive models. And so the next year they have something new for their keynote slides.
Yeah, they were personal.
I can see why though. Heck, I would love an iPad pro. Apple makes the absolute best quality hardware tablets. The Pro will be no different.
it's just not the device that will fit into my workflow / life.
Their displays are also best described as "marginal". My 13HD looks pitiful alongside my iMac. I would have sold it by now if anything had pen performance as strong as Cintiq. Pencil and nTrig appear to be close enough at this point. Most people who tout Wacom over the Pencil or nTrig don't actually use or know much about them, in my experience. Yes, they are the industry standard and yes for production people will still use them for professional level software. Toon Boom isn't likely to ship on iPad Pro anytime soon. That doesn't mean prosumers, or even professionals looking for a portable drawing solution, won't be interested in the iPad Pro as an auxiliary device.
I'm not sure how you can make such comments never having owned a MP120. Because if you owned one, you'd know what I was talking about and you'd be able to compare it to a slightly newer, much cheaper palm pilot, and find the MP utterly unimpressive.
You're apparently suggesting that after Apple sold me an over-priced, over-hyped, under-performing piece of junk, it's my fault I didn't get back in line and buy another one?
First of all, if that's how you got your kicks, that's sad.
Secondly, I would never be able to compare it to a Windows tablet, because I would never buy a Windows tablet, especially if they're just now reaching parity with a 20-year old Apple failure.
Thirdly, I suggest that for the "Real" Newton experience, you take $800 bucks, adjust for mid-nineties inflation and set it on fire. Then, maybe you and the engineers can try to figure out why Apple is so good at selling products, that while not being substantially better than their Windows counterparts, are substantially more desirable and profitable.
In retrospect, it was a valuable lesson to learn so early, that to purchase a version 1.0 Apple product, essentially meant paying an exorbitant sum to be a beta tester.
While I've never publicly complained about the Newton before, I applaud the efforts of those who did, for contributing to the Newton's well-deserved "bad rap" and none too soon demise.
It's bad enough I have to put up with Apple apologists, now I have to put up with Windows-Apple apologists.
So let me get this straight...
You were ignorant to how good Newton was because your only experience was with the first gen device, yet you trashed it on an Internet forum as if it were fact with zero context.
Based on ONE experience, you've concluded that ALL Apple first gen devices aren't worth buying.
All 1.0 tech that falls short of expectations deserve to die... Newton, Mac, Windows, Android, etc.
You have to "put up with Apple apologists" on a site called MacRumors yet you have no problem judging others on how they get their kicks.
Now I'm "Ignorant" about how good the Newton was?So let me get this straight...
You were ignorant to how good Newton was because your only experience was with the first gen device, yet you trashed it on an Internet forum as if it were fact with zero context.
Based on ONE experience, you've concluded that ALL Apple first gen devices aren't worth buying.
All 1.0 tech that falls short of expectations deserve to die... Newton, Mac, Windows, Android, etc.
You have to "put up with Apple apologists" on a site called MacRumors yet you have no problem judging others on how they get their kicks.
I must have missed the following memo:
" Dear sucker, er, loyal Newton user,
We're excited to announce a new version of the Message Pad that
actually does some of the things we told you the first version would do.
We know you can't wait to take another chance on this great new product,
but do act promptly, we intend to EOL it in a year.
Don't be distressed by this, the new improved technology will live on
in other Apple products you'll be able to buy in the future."
My ignorance of the update was of little or no importance, I don't see that Apple made much of a dent in the ignorance of the buying public with the later version.
Yes, based on one experience, because the Newton was the first Apple product I purchased that was such a waste of money, and I'm a quick learner. If you look at subsequent Apple technology releases I think you'll see the landscape littered with bad 1.0 releases.
Of course I'm sure you're sitting next to your Mac Cube, typing replies on your Original Mac Laptop, listening to your original iPod, and making calls on your original iPhone (well, in all fairness, there's been no improvement in call quality on the iPhone) because all of those products sprang forth from the head of Zeus utterly perfected. Why, I doubt there's ever even been any discussion, on this forum, about upgrading any of these wonderful products.
Hey, if you think that Newton was so good, send me a grand, and I'll dig it out of the junk drawer it's in, and mail it to you in a really pretty box. If not, feel free to going back to debating the virtues of long-dead Apple products for kicks.
I didn't realise the iPad Pro didn't have 3D touch. You're right, that's not such a bright idea when you've just announced it on a newly released iPhone
My reaction to the 3D Touch was initially the same as yours, since i was concerned about "palm press" while drawing. But since many people who have used it (though in preview only) say this is not an issue, I'm not as concerned.
While I agree it's disappointing that the iPad Pro does not contain 3D Touch , it's not unexpected since engineering for the larger screen requires addressing a whole lot of engineering challenges. It's part of the reason iPhone features only make it onto the iPhone after a year, and why you hear of issues like screen bleed on iPad more frequently than on iPhone.
Put another way, comparing the process to building a suspension bridge it's a lot more difficult to build a suspension bridge over a couple of miles than over a couple hundred feet. Unlike a suspension bridge where they can create addition truss midway through the bridge , recreating the engineering that bounds the edge of the screen to the device (but in the middle of the screen) is a lot more difficult.
In the end would you really want apple to include a technology that works not as well as it should, simply to quell consumer and shareholder demands? Microsoft Vista comes to mind.
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Phil Schiller is definitely my least favorite person at Apple. As is typical of marketing people he seems more interested in selling the product "to you" than letting the product "sell itself". I don't get that vibe watching any of the other Execs keynotes
One problem with that statement. MS Surface can work with existing desktop apps that you can't take with you " on the go " on iOS, such as Photoshop CC for example ( not the crippled iOS version ) using huge files that have layers going at least 100 MB or more for print or screen output.
Also, my existing Wacom Intuos 4 has BOTH tilt and 2,000 levels of sensitivity which is programmable via a driver app. I don't claim to have a Cintiq or iPad Pro. It's be nice to have them but I trust Wacom due to my experience as a creative professional.
If Astropad is used with iPad pro, it'll remain tethered to the desktop or laptop. it'll behave exactly like the cintiq companion tethered to the PC., as far as I understand.
The biggest problem with iPad pro, I think, is NOT the hardware but rather it's the limited OS and specs to handle the real desktop class applications, not the stripped down counterparts. I have sketchbook pro on my old iPad and iMac. The latter is far superior due to feature depth, flexibility, file handling and less lag. The iOS version wasn't even close to the desktop counterpart.
But it still remains to be one of my favorite tools and I find Mischief and Manga Studio, even Photoshop and illustrator to be more appropriate to the line of work I do.
What I meant by that was, as a direct competitor, MS' stylus support is only available on their line of computers and tablets. Unlike Wacom, which is a 3rd party accessory that can work on any computer with a USB port. The same thing could be said of Apple. They're more bonus features for their own platform, which keeps them from butting heads with Wacom.
Unless the Surface and iPad Pro become THE go-to devices for artists and designers (which could happen in the long term), Wacom doesn't have much to worry about.
I agree with you 100% on this. I've been reading the reviews, and it seems to be an incredible machine. It's got a beautiful screen, the usual excellent Apple build quality, and a processor that's both faster and lighter on its feet than the Core M's.
...shame the software lets it down. I'm sure things will be different a year from now, but for now, it's a lot of machine that can't be taken advantage of.