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I'm not speaking for the people. The numbers speak plenty loud. People spent $50B on Disney content last year.

You need to stop. Money doesn’t equal best. Coke sold $80B last year but they are far behind being the best drink.
 
You need to stop. Money doesn’t equal best. Coke sold $80B last year but they are far behind being the best drink.

You’re right. I spend more money on coke but I like Pepsi more.

Don’t get Baymowe’d in this thread. Apparently people only spend money if they like something.
 
I’ll say goodbye to my 4K library on my Apple TV. I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney pulled any Fox movies that were 4K from the Apple store and downgraded them to 1080p

I highly doubt that would happen. $10 a month for one person for many titles is much cheaper than $20 for one movie purchase from one person. The movies will remain on the iTunes Store for purchase, but will be removed from everyone else's monthly streaming service.

I really see no point in these streaming services. Unless you like the exclusives like Netflix's Stranger Things, I always prefer to buy the TV show or movie from iTunes and keep it. I used Netflix a lot in the past and they always removed content I was in the middle of watching. I am sorry for having a job and cannot watch 10 seasons of a show immediately. So I buy it on iTunes so I will always have it.

And even if Disney pulls content from iTunes Store, you will still have access to it if you have purchased it. Farscape is no longer on the US iTunes Store but I still have access to it since I purchased Season 2 on my iTunes when it was available.
 
What is your subjective measure for best? All business exists for is to make money.

I’m so sorry, but I’ve been asked to abstain from feeding you.
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I highly doubt that would happen. $10 a month for one person for many titles is much cheaper than $20 for one movie purchase from one person. The movies will remain on the iTunes Store for purchase, but will be removed from everyone else's monthly streaming service.

I really see no point in these streaming services. Unless you like the exclusives like Netflix's Stranger Things, I always prefer to buy the TV show or movie from iTunes and keep it. I used Netflix a lot in the past and they always removed content I was in the middle of watching. I am sorry for having a job and cannot watch 10 seasons of a show immediately. So I buy it on iTunes so I will always have it.

And even if Disney pulls content from iTunes Store, you will still have access to it if you have purchased it. Farscape is no longer on the US iTunes Store but I still have access to it since I purchased Season 2 on my iTunes when it was available.

I like the idea, but how do you know if you like a TV show until you buy it? I can appreciate buying your favorite shows, but most of the time I watch TV I’m watching new content. Netflix and other streaming platforms lowers the cost associated with making a mistake selecting entertainment. I have a severe allergic reaction to ads, to the point where I won’t even use a Roku player, so cable is obviously out.
 
I like the idea, but how do you know if you like a TV show until you buy it? I can appreciate buying your favorite shows, but most of the time I watch TV I’m watching new content. Netflix and other streaming platforms lowers the cost associated with making a mistake selecting entertainment. I have a severe allergic reaction to ads, to the point where I won’t even use a Roku player, so cable is obviously out.

I usually buy the first 5 episodes from iTunes at $2.99 a piece. If I like those 5 episodes, I will do Complete My Season and buy more seasons.

Unless you watch A LOT of shows per month, it actually comes out to be cheaper than any streaming service.
 
I usually buy the first 5 episodes from iTunes at $2.99 a piece. If I like those 5 episodes, I will do Complete My Season and buy more seasons.

Unless you watch A LOT of shows per month, it actually comes out to be cheaper than any streaming service.

Seems fair. Most of my regular content is YouTube, and I probably spend about the same as that on Patreon.
 
Everyone wants a slice of Disney...

I just hope it doesn't change the lineup too much.. Every time someone does an acquisition i always somehow expect a change... often for the worse.
 
You’re right. I spend more money on coke but I like Pepsi more.

Don’t get Baymowe’d in this thread. Apparently people only spend money if they like something.
Why did you spend on coke then?

This reminds me of the whole AirPods debate. People criticise it for its supposedly lacklustre sound quality, without seemingly realising that there is more to what makes a great pair of headphones than sound quality alone, such as convenience and ease of use.

If there are other factors which made you settle for coke, then wouldn't it be reasonable to argue that coke was the best drink for you at the time given the unique context and circumstances? Rather than focusing on say, taste in a vacuum?
 
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Why did you spend on coke then?

This reminds me of the whole AirPods debate. People criticise it for its supposedly lacklustre sound quality, without seemingly realising that there is more to what makes a great pair of headphones than sound quality alone, such as convenience and ease of use.

If there are other factors which made you settle for coke, then wouldn't it be reasonable to argue that coke was the best drink for you at the time given the unique context and circumstances? Rather than focusing on say, taste in a vacuum?

Because it wasn’t bad, and I wanted it. Most places will sell coke or Pepsi not both. If I am at 7-11, sometimes I will buy coke as a reminder of why I prefer pepsi.

What you and others fail to realize is it’s not a black and white decision tree. There are emotions that come into play with the purchase.

The AirPod debate is kind of a red herring for a comparison. People such as myself will never buy AirPods for the heavily weighted negatives vs the positives.

I realize that binary people such as yourself exist, but realize that there is a reason marketing exists to influence the psychology/emotions of a purchase.
 
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I don't know about that. But I'm afraid that wr will soon see singing Xenomorphs from "Alien" and cute little singing Predators...

You do realize Disney subsidiaries released everything from most of Tarantino's work, to most of Robert Rodriguez's to the Scream franchise, right?

Disney has no problems with letting their studios do violent, films, let alone R-rated films. Both Bob Iger and Kevin Fiege have stated that Marvel Studios will continue releasing Deadpool as an R-rated franchise. Wesley Snipes has been in talks to help reboot Blade into the MCU as an R-rated movie/streaming series.

But yeah, let's continue the stupid ****ing narrative that Disney's going to meddle in what they've bought, just like everyone swore was going to happen when they bought LucasArts and Marvel.

(Tho, full disclosure, Iger has stepped in when things have catastrophically messed up [See Marvel's Creative Council disbanding, and the current refounding of LucasArts Gaming and the removal of the Star Wars license from EA)
 
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Because it wasn’t bad, and I wanted it. Most places will sell coke or Pepsi not both. If I am at 7-11, sometimes I will buy coke as a reminder of why I prefer pepsi.

What you and others fail to realize is it’s not a black and white decision tree. There are emotions that come into play with the purchase.

The AirPod debate is kind of a red herring for a comparison. People such as myself will never buy AirPods for the heavily weighted negatives vs the positives.

I realize that binary people such as yourself exist, but realize that there is a reason marketing exists to influence the psychology/emotions of a purchase.
You are basically arguing my point for me.

https://stratechery.com/2013/clayton-christensen-got-wrong/

I would say that the issue here isn't that we are irrational buyers. On one hand, you could say that consumers have widely varying motivations, are susceptible to advertising, lack product knowledge etc. However, I prefer to think that consumers are actually perfectly rational, but that our definition of rationality needs to dramatically expand beyond what is easily quantified.
 
As the streaming market is broken up by things like this, people will be pushed back to piracy.

We will have come full circle. Hollywood just doesn't get it.

Adding salt to the injury is global availability. As soon as shows become exclusive to a selected numbers of countries the rest of the world, won't hold the breath and wait. The printing press was great because it made books available in a larger scale, the media industry is terrible because is trying to make something easily sharable highly restricted.

Arrested development on Netflix is available to a handful of countries, do they think people are waiting for them to get the permissions in order? Hell, no. As soon as the torrents are online, people grab them.
 
Here is real news and hard data. Sorry. :D


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My understanding that both Disney and Fox each owned 30% of the shares in Hulu, meaning Disney now owns 60%.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/20/...tion-final-hulu-marvel-streaming-21st-century

Not quite a minority share anymore.
 
Disney destroyed Star Wars at least on the eyes of old Star Wars fans
this new generation like these Disney Star Wars movies
but older generations prefer the old ones that were made by Lucas

Disney destroyed marvel or the avengers
the woman in charge of Disney is a feminist and just because of that
she is basically destroying everything on her path
just trying to make woman look superior and making us look weak and inferior

I'm a man yes I love and like woman they are sweet and beautiful
I'm not woman hater
I like female super heroes but my problem with ms marvel is that she is not stronger than hulk or Thor
and there are making her seem like she is when she is not

if you say that she is stronger than captain America then I don't have any objection
is she stronger than iron man , maybe but Tony is way cooler

I like all tomb raider games , also resident evil, Jill, Claire etc
but the madness and nonsense have to stop

marvel and the avengers started very good 10 years ago
infinity war was awesome and now they ruined everything simply because they decided to add this character
bottomline, marvel should have never joined forces with Disney
that's why we are seeing all these changes
marvel is marvel, you can make some changes but you have to follow the comics
don't listen to Disney

I love Disney old characters, when Disney was Disney
now is not about love for the kids, now is all about money
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it seems like Disney bought marvel some time ago
for only 4 billions
what a joke
if you put the last marvel movies all together
they made more than 4 billion
marvel made a very bad deal
maybe it was a good deal back then but looking at todays numbers
it is a bad deal
that's why Disney asked for a female super hero just like they did on Star Wars
look what they did to our beloved Luke, milking cows
enough said, I used to love Disney but the old Disney
is not so much that I hate Disney now, I just don't like the woman one charge because of what she is doing
"her agenda"
 
You are basically arguing my point for me.

https://stratechery.com/2013/clayton-christensen-got-wrong/

I would say that the issue here isn't that we are irrational buyers. On one hand, you could say that consumers have widely varying motivations, are susceptible to advertising, lack product knowledge etc. However, I prefer to think that consumers are actually perfectly rational, but that our definition of rationality needs to dramatically expand beyond what is easily quantified.

I'm not sure what your point is. I'm not going to read someone else's article if you can't message your point across concisely.

My point is that you don't ALWAYS buy something just because you like it. Sometimes people buy things to try it out. Other times they think why not. The thought that Apple's profit is a direct translation to customer satisfaction is very naive and flawed.

This is going off topic from this thread, so we can continue this in the next thread that someone gets Baymowe'd.
 
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