The reason you keep getting sarcastic comments like this is because the idea of the AVP being successful is just silly.
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The AVP could still be successful, just not in its current state because most people can't afford it.
It won’t be successful because people don’t actually need it.
There is no need for a headset there is a big difference between a want & a need.
I guess if you can’t scrutinize your spending enough to have a $3500 movie gizmo for a single-person-audience, tacking on D+ is any easy upsell.
It almost seems like Vision was pushed out before humans evolved beyond whatever we are now that makes this and 3DTV silly and trite.
Literally every product Apple has ever released, with the POSSIBLE exception of the iPhone, was not needed when Apple released the first version. People didn't need a personal computer in 1984, people definitely didn't need a portable music player in 2001, a tablet in 2010, or a smart watch in 2015. But I think you'd agree the Mac, iPod, iPad, and Apple Watch are successful. And while I'd argue a cell phone was close to being needed in 2007, plenty of people didn't have them. That doesn't mean the Apple Vision will be successful, but saying it never will be because people don't NEED it when it's first released is really, really short-sighted and silly.
Maybe it's because my career has been as a project manager and now in strategic planning, but the inability of so many on here to look a few years into the future and think strategically is mind boggling. For example, if Apple is working with major sports leagues to develop live immersive front-row seats (which is heavily rumored), in a few years a lot of sports fans are going to think they NEED something to watch that content on. And guess what, because Apple released AVP this year, the "Apple Vision Air" that comes out just in time for that new service in 2027 or whenever becomes a hell of a lot better value proposition because it's a few years down the line, Apple can make them at scale, they're cheaper, lighter, there are more mature apps, Apple and developers have figured out what works and doesn't, etc. If they waited to release something until then, 1) the NBA or whoever doesn't build out that infrastructure for an unreleased product and 2) this awkward phase where there isn't ton to do, not a lot of content to watch, etc. happens when millions of them are out in the wild vs. a couple hundred thousand early adopters who can afford to spend $3500+ on a new product category that isn't needed. And imagine the "APPLE IS FAILED/DOOMED ARG" headlines then.
To be clear, no promises that is going to happen. Maybe the bandwidth requirements of live immersive sports makes it DOA for ten years and at that point Apple Vision has been killed off. Or maybe it's so expensive that the MBAs working for the sports leagues determine that they couldn't charge enough to make it worth their while. Or maybe you naysayers are right and 95% of people will never wear goggles until all this technology fits in a normal pair of glasses with all-day battery life in like 50 years no matter how amazing the content is. But if Apple doesn't get started now skating to where they think the puck is going to be, then the future they are pushing towards definitely doesn't happen.
Being able to afford it is not the issue. The issue is that it goes on your face and makes you look like a total dork.
This will never be glasses. No way, no how. And we are right. The vast majority of people won’t wear goggles unless there’s an exceptionally compelling reason to do so.
On Apple’s track record: Most Apple products have a clear and easily articulated use. Not so with the Vision. What exactly does the Vision do that other hardware doesn’t already do better? What problem does the Vision solve? How does the Vision make life better? These and the many other open questions around the device are why it seems very un-Apple-like and appears to have already failed.
As someone already pointed out it makes you look like a dork & that’s one of the reasons why it won’t be successful.
The only people that are interested in this seem to be people on forums like this & not the general public.
You realize people literally said the exact same thing about the watch and AirPods, right? That only huge dorks would wear them? That take turned out great. And yes, before you respond, I understand something on your face has a higher bar for acceptability than something on your wrist/in your ears, but I think the watch is ugly as sin but people all over the world wear it. If there is a use case there people will get over it.
Again, not saying it’s going to be successful, but I think you underestimating the draw of the entertainment use case. It’s not there now, but immersive content definitely has the potential to be huge. Especially if you love sports.
Come back in 5 years to tell me “I told you so” when it’s a huge flop that’s been discontinued. I’ll be around and take my medicine.
Not even remotely the same. A watch and earphones are accepted form factors. A face computer is not. This will never be mainstream.
The headphones had a purpose
Same as a phone & a watch & a mac
& an iPad.
This headset doesn’t have a purpose for general people.
You make great points. I read the news article and expected to read some comments from people who own VP to hear their thoughts on this potential new content. Instead it’s the people who have posted the same thing so many times before about why they hate VP. I’m at a loss as to why someone would seek out threads for products they‘re not interested in just to try to wet blanket the owners. There are plenty of things Apple makes that just aren’t for me. I just skip over those articles.
I can't believe the bad comparisons being made when discussing (and usually defending) the AVP
Music players, watches, earphones... these are all devices with long histories of usage and enjoyment in the mainstream.
An iPad strapped to your face has no such history nor desires from the mainstream.
Even a large contingent of tech enthusiasts have found this to be a problematic and not that enjoyable form factor to use for very long.
Apple is perfectly capable of making mistakes.
They've made plenty..
We don't have to defend their every move and assume some 4D chess masterplan that will "of course work!" eventually.
It might just be a big mistake
Music players, watches, earphones... these are all devices with long histories of usage and enjoyment in the mainstream.
An iPad strapped to your face has no such history nor desires from the mainstream.
Even a large contingent of tech enthusiasts have found this to be a problematic and not that enjoyable form factor to use for very long.
Apple is perfectly capable of making mistakes.
They've made plenty..
We don't have to defend their every move and assume some 4D chess masterplan that will "of course work!" eventually.
It might just be a big mistake