Please, stop the "If Steve Jobs" nonsense.
Cook has "bean counted" Apple very very successfully.
But i hate to not be able to get Disney+. Most of the EU is just blocked out.
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Disney+ No Longer Offering Free Trials Ahead of 'Hamilton' Premiere
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Cook has "bean counted" Apple very very successfully.
But i hate to not be able to get Disney+. Most of the EU is just blocked out.
I predict that piracy is and will be on the rise again now. Platforms are becoming fragmented again, just like before Netflix. With Netflix, you can pay $12 dollar can get everything, now you need HBO+, ESPN, Netflix, Prime Videos, YouTube Red, Apple TV+, Disney+, adding all that up, you end up paying like what? $150 a month? This is impractical and again justified the need for piracy.
No, that’s not $150/month. Apple tV+ is free for a year if you purchase hardware. Otherwise $5.
YouTube premium is $12
Hulu/Disney plus/espn+ bundle is $12
Netflix is $13 (for hd)
Prime video is $9
HBO max is $15
So your whole list, plus Hulu, is $66 a month.
And nothing’s stopping you from buying one of these for a month, watching everything you want, cancelling, and then picking something else and watching everything you want on that service.
Sounds like you are trying to find justification for being a criminal.
How did a thread about Disney+ turn into arguments about Apple???
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people pirate because they want to pirate. and believe they have a right to other people’s stuff.
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people pirate because they want to pirate. and believe they have a right to other people’s stuff.
Nobody has actually said it was because of Hamilton. All we know is that a couple weeks before Hamilton is when it happened.
And have you seen Hamilton? It’s really quite good.
A 7 day trial for a video stream service was a joke to begin with. But now they yank it so you can’t sign up and watch Hamilton for free. I mean I know multi billion dollar companies are cheap but oof.
Sure some may sign up just to see Hamilton and cancel, but don’t they have the research on how many people sign up for these kind of events and either continue with the service because they like it. Or like me too lazy to get around to cancelling it.
Sure some may sign up just to see Hamilton and cancel, but don’t they have the research on how many people sign up for these kind of events and either continue with the service because they like it. Or like me too lazy to get around to cancelling it.
If Steve Jobs were still alive, these comments wouldn’t exist. Just saying.
That’s not what I want though. Many of those services can only used because they are extensions of the platforms. App Store is not a service on its own, it’s an extension of the iPhone. So is iCloud Drive. These services could not exist without the hardware platform. Nobody would pay for them - which android user would pay for iCloud Drive?
Music might the only one that has an ability to exist outside the Apple platform, that would have people pay for it whether having an Apple device or not.
What Apple calls services is somewhat misleading - many are not independent products but extensions of their hardware platform.
Which are still services. Just like when you buy a car, the dealer has hardware sales. But then you take it In for service.
Hamilton is, by far, the most successful Broadway musical in our generation. It is sold out or nearly sold out on Broadway for months in advanced. The nationwide tours are sold out. In fact, in many cities, the ONLY way to buy Hamilton tickets is to buy tickets to a series of shows (often 4 or 5 in a season.) It is THAT popular.
I have already told my wife that I expect the internet to "break" the day Hamilton is released.
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I'm a rock fan through and through, although there are some classic hip-hop exceptions in my collection (Wu Tang Clan truly is nothing to f with). So at first glance, a hip-hop based musical like Hamilton sounds like something I wouldn't consider. It's a musical, for starters, and I'm a Sith Lord, after all.
But I have heard so many good things about this show that I can't wait to see it. Now I can judge for myself as to what all the fuss is about, and whether or not I'll be putting my lightsaber through the television.
You are honestly saying Apple has more content than Disney+?............
Ive been saying this all along
nothing on atv+ i would pay for
disney+ - the bomb
"...For example, "The Mandalorian," the key show Disney+ premiered with, received more attention than any of Apple TV+'s launch shows, including "The Morning Show," "Dickinson," "See," and "For All Mankind."..."
plus they have the starwars marvel movies, disney classics and more
aapl should buy and revamp youtube without so many ads and content restrictions
nothing on atv+ i would pay for
disney+ - the bomb
"...For example, "The Mandalorian," the key show Disney+ premiered with, received more attention than any of Apple TV+'s launch shows, including "The Morning Show," "Dickinson," "See," and "For All Mankind."..."
plus they have the starwars marvel movies, disney classics and more
aapl should buy and revamp youtube without so many ads and content restrictions
Ya, it’s sad that content has never been more accessible and on the cheap. Yet, scumbags still pirate it.
Those people won’t be happy till they can have everything ever created for $9.99.
That’s silly. There is nothing on Apple TV+ as good as Fargo, Better Call Saul, The Mandalorian, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Barry, Picard, Rick and Morty, Mrs. America, Upload, etc. etc. Apple TV+ has a few fine shows, and some mediocre shows. And there certainly isn’t enough on Apple TV+ to keep you watching for very long, even if you love every show on there.
You need multiple sources - Apple TV+ is not “all [anyone] really needs.”
HEARD.
Yeah, I’m from Florida... I gotta agree with you on the $ thing w/ regards to their theme parks for sure.
My bad... I was just VERY pleasantly surprised/impressed with the D+ pricing & wanted to give some credit where credit is due for that very customer friendly decision.
Lol, I’m definitely not gonna pretend like they aren’t ridiculously money grubbing in other areas though! Did you know that a custom Harry Potter wand at Universal is $40... but a custom light saber at Disney is $200?! Like, they can seriously miss me with that. They got a chunk out of me for the Star Wars Oculus Experience thing- but that’s where I drew the line. =)
I had no interest in Hamilton. My parents saw it on Broadway with the original cast and were blown away...and they are definitely not hip-hop (or rock) fans. They see a lot of Broadway shows and they still talk about Hamilton all the time.
Two years ago I was in NYC for a few days. A friend and I decided to blow nearly $400 each on last-minute tickets. I'm not a big musical theater fan, but having heard so much about Hamilton, I wanted to see it, and I wanted to see it on Broadway. To say that it did not disappoint is an understatement. I absolutely loved it. I've seen a lot of live performances in my life, from plays to musicals to concerts, and Hamilton is one of the best things I've ever seen on stage.
The majority of Apple's "Services" revenue comes from two places: AppleCare extended warranties and the ridiculous 30% App Store commission.
Apple News may have 100M monthly users, but it's free and available on every device. It's likely that many Apple News users (myself included) read an occasional story and that's counts towards the monthly user total. How many are paying for News+, though?
Apple lumps all of their "services" together, but including extended warranties and App Store commissions in the total completely skews the picture. Sure, these are "services", but they are directly dependent upon hardware sales as @Mayanja notes. No hardware sale, no extended warranty sale. No hardware sale, no App Store commissions. Same goes for Apple Card and Apple Pay.
By all accounts the only stand-alone Apple service that is doing reasonably well is Music, but there is a lot of speculation around how much profit (if any) it generates. News+ is clearly a flop and TV+ hasn't caught on. Outside of Apple-centric websites, I haven't heard a single person mention a TV+ show. No show has generated any kind of meaningful buzz, be it word of mouth or in the press. Being the tech guy in my peer group, I help a lot of people with their (mostly) Apple devices. No one I know has watched anything on TV+, myself included. And no one subscribes to News+ either. Plenty use Apple Music, though.
Apple has done a very good job in recent years of shifting focus from (flat) unit sales to total dollars. Raising prices and further gouging customers has enabled them to keep those total dollar numbers up while unit sales stay flat or even decline. They've always made good money on Apple Care, but until "services" became the new Wall Street buzzword, they didn't really emphasize this aspect of their business. Now they lump all of this stuff together and analysts salivate over how their services business is a Fortune 100 (or whatever) business all by itself without acknowledging the fact that most of the revenue is directly tied to hardware sales.
Focusing on service revenue growth has kept Wall Street happy, but if you separate the extended warranty costs and App Store commissions from the rest, the picture changes dramatically and isn't nearly as impressive. Long story short, Apple is still a hardware company, and their success remains directly tied to hardware sales, regardless of how much focus analysts and Wall Street put on their services business.
Tried Disney+ but it wasn’t for me. I soon got over my nostalgia for the Simpson's, I like star wars but it’s not something I’m going to rewatch and Marvel can just get in the bin.
I don’t watch a heap of Apple+ but I have preferred it to Disney overall.
I don’t watch a heap of Apple+ but I have preferred it to Disney overall.
