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All valid points.. but I think the picture is way bigger.
Maybe look at it from this angle.. While I certainly agree there is something to be said with watching content from the comfort of your lounge room chair, streaming has it all wrong. Let's take movies as an example.
I think the movie companies are pushing streaming only so you don't own it. Think about it. Disney for one has discontinued physical media (at least in Australia they have). The idea is: "You can't own it, but you can watch our movie, our TV show if you pay me $19.99 a month". If you have the Blu-Ray at $29.99 then it's yours to watch whenever you like for a lifetime, you can pass it family and friends and pass it on to possibly your next generation. Hence, no reoccurring revenue for said movie company. And sure, some people are ok with that and that is fine. Until someone decides that Citizen Kane and say 200 other movies are no longer being watched by enough people and they need to free up storage because storage capacity is not infinite. But adding more storage costs money.. well, then it's just easier to remove a whole bunch of content and no longer have it available. It's already happening with music services which is why I believe physical media will always be king.

Creating my own copies will always be king. Physical media is outdated and vulnerable.
 
Creating my own copies will always be king. Physical media is outdated and vulnerable.
Is physical media outdated? Yeah.. perhaps to some.. I personally don't think they are. If I was given the option of either a Blu-Ray or on a storage device, I would most definitely take the Blu-Ray. I think physical media is certainly no less vulnerable than a failed storage device, corrupted data, dropped hard drives, power surges etc and we all know that SSD's have a do have a shortened lifespan the more that data is written to them, no matter how much we don't want them to fail.
 
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Is physical media outdated? Yeah.. perhaps to some.. I don't agree they are. However, I do think they are certainly no less vulnerable to a failed storage device, corrupted data, dropped hard drives, power surges etc and we all know that SSD's have a do have a shortened lifespan the more that data is written to them, no matter how much we don't want them to fail.

They are more vulnerable, by virtue of being easier to physically damage simply by handling it, as well as being difficult to make (physical) backups of. Plenty options for redundant storage digitally to ensure peace of mind (not to mention options to source them again at a push).

This without even mentioning that if consoles didn’t exist most people wouldn’t even own a means of playing physical media.

ETA: there is one good reason for physical media to exist though - without it, we would not have means of creating proper, lossless, remux copies. Due to the fact that most streaming services cripple even their “4k” streams. So I guess we do agree somewhat ;) it’s just that I don’t have space/patience for discs.
 
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They are more vulnerable, by virtue of being easier to physically damage simply by handling it, as well as being difficult to make (physical) backups of. Plenty options for redundant storage digitally to ensure peace of mind (not to mention options to source them again at a push).

This without even mentioning that if consoles didn’t exist most people wouldn’t even own a means of playing physical media.
Drop a Blu-Ray disc at, for example, body height and there is a better than average chance it will still play. Do the same with a hard drive and I am not so sure the odds would be the same.
And sure.. I agree there are digital backups for peace of mind.. but generally now you have more out of pocket expense. I think I would stick with a $29.99 Blu-Ray.

However, I think we can agree to disagree :)
Agreed with streaming crippling their 4K streams and discs taking up space. My TV cabinet/unit is rather full with over 700 DVD/Blu-Ray/4k. (touch wood they all still work - I am very particular with them though ;))
 
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Drop a Blu-Ray disc at, for example, body height and there is a better than average chance it will still play. Do the same with a hard drive and I am not so sure the odds would be the same.
And sure.. I agree there are digital backups for peace of mind.. but generally now you have more out of pocket expense. I think I would stick with a $29.99 Blu-Ray.

However, I think we can agree to disagree :)

Why would I be dropping or carrying HDDs in the first place? That’s what I meant by being more likely to damage just by using normally. Not sure of your age, but I’ve been around to suffer many skipping CDs, unreadable DVDs, unplayable game discs etc. Digital is better. I agree that companies not letting you own a copy is BS.
 
Why would I be dropping or carrying HDDs in the first place? That’s what I meant by being more likely to damage just by using normally. Not sure of your age, but I’ve been around to suffer many skipping CDs, unreadable DVDs, unplayable game discs etc. Digital is better. I agree that companies not letting you own a copy is BS.
I think we know or have friends who aren't well versed when it comes to technology and, possibly would have had that friend who passes on a HDD asking to watch a movie? And most people will do it like that just fine. This however, is how most people could potentially lose data just by (figuratively speaking) throwing around HDD's or dropping HDD's. By the sound of things, you come across well versed enough not to do that.. but you would be surprised at the amount that do.

I would be lying if I said I had never had disc that have skipped, I certainly have. But more times than not, they have worked for me. But then again, I am very particular as to how I handle my physical media :)

I am old enough to remember cass-singles, beta max, mini-discs, laser discs and even 8-track.. and oh boy do I love my vinyl records! :)
 
All valid points.. but I think the picture is way bigger.
Maybe look at it from this angle.. While I certainly agree there is something to be said with watching content from the comfort of your lounge room chair, streaming has it all wrong. Let's take movies as an example.
I think the movie companies are pushing streaming only so you don't own it. Think about it. Disney for one has discontinued physical media (at least in Australia they have). The idea is: "You can't own it, but you still can watch our movie, our TV show.. if you pay me $19.99 a month". If you have the Blu-Ray at $29.99 then it's yours to watch whenever you like for a lifetime, you can pass it family and friends and pass it on to possibly your next generation. Hence however, no reoccurring revenue for said movie company. And sure, some people are ok with that and that is fine. Until someone decides that Citizen Kane and say 200 other movies are no longer being watched by enough people and they need to free up storage because storage capacity is not infinite. But adding more storage costs money.. well, then it's just easier to remove a whole bunch of content and no longer have it available. It's already happening with music services which is why I believe physical media will always be king.
My wife and i, when we have time, we usually pick a film that is really worth big screen. Everything else I just rent and we watch it at home. I cancelled Netflix recently. Luckily for us movie industry is going downhill like there is no tomorrow so we don’t have a backlog. My favourite genre is science fiction and how many real science fiction movies were there in last decade…
 
Ah... so 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️ it is, then.
Bold move when your service is already hundreds of millions in the hole, but Disney gonna Disney.
Exactly. Password sharing is the least of Disney +’s problems at the moment.
 
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Not surprised. Netflix did it and the blow back was minimal and reality Netflix got more subscribers in total so zero loss to them.
Yes some people got mad but most that didn’t subscribe just lost access to it.
 
Disney+ will see its first profitable quarter in the fourth fiscal quarter of 2024 under Iger's leadership.

Disney's streaming service has more than 110 million subscribers worldwide

Am I the only one who is gobsmacked that even if Disney+ had an average revenue of $5/month that they’ve been loosing money at half a billion dollars a month in revenue?

How much are they paying in royalties when they own all the content? How much are they actually spending on new content that’s streaming only?

I think it’s wild they’re not making huge profit at that economy of scale.
 
Or set up an email forwarding filter to relay those emails to everyone.
It doesn't work though. The device still has to have connected to the home's ip address within a month.
You can get your kids' computers and phones to work but not a smart tv.
You need a streaming device like a firestick and they have to bring that home and activate it on your home network once a month- roughly. It's usually a bit better than that.
It is ridiculous. I understand cutting down on password sharing but when the kids are away they aren't using the service at home so why am I still paying for 5 users in the house then?
 
What happened to "Thou shall not steal"?
Little hard to make the argument that it’s theft to share your password when streaming services both explicitly (like netflix’s “sharing is caring”) and implicitly (multiple streams and profiles without any location enforcement, which I assure you is not in any way new technology Disney+’s engineers were unable to use) encouraged sharing passwords while they were trying to expand.

Yes the terms of service technically prohibited it (some of it, the definition of “household” was often left very intentionally vague, hence the biggest group of folks getting annoyed at this are folks with kids in college), but the services were very well aware of how they were positioning their products for sharing.

There’s a real and quite valid argument to be made that the services are breaking a social expectation they created *and encouraged* to their users.

This isnt like cable where tapping into someone else’s subscription was always frowned upon and the providers attempted to stop from the beginning.
 
? It never went away. It is still there.

I used to be able to keep up with high quality movie and tv releases. Now it is impossible. Much more good content available than I have time to watch.
I guess it depends on what you consider good content.
 
Little hard to make the argument that it’s theft to share your password when streaming services both explicitly (like netflix’s “sharing is caring”) and implicitly (multiple streams and profiles without any location enforcement, which I assure you is not in any way new technology Disney+’s engineers were unable to use) encouraged sharing passwords while they were trying to expand.

Yes the terms of service technically prohibited it (some of it, the definition of “household” was often left very intentionally vague, hence the biggest group of folks getting annoyed at this are folks with kids in college), but the services were very well aware of how they were positioning their products for sharing.

There’s a real and quite valid argument to be made that the services are breaking a social expectation they created *and encouraged* to their users.

This isnt like cable where tapping into someone else’s subscription was always frowned upon and the providers attempted to stop from the beginning.

All true. I think it's funny when people act like these "crackdowns" are due to streaming companies fed up with all the STEALING and THEFT going on. It's literally them deciding that they will see an increase in subscriptions if they prohibit password sharing. Which seems to be the case, if Netflix is anything to go by. Sorry, it's not about morality, it's about money.
 
Streaming is just bad in general. So many good shows will get lost in time without physical media. Shows like Stranger Things that only has Season 1 and 2 on Blu Ray.
 
Still unsure as to what exactly constitutes "password sharing". If you have an Apple TV at your house, and another one at a different locale (say, your parent's home) and are logged in there, is that password sharing even if said parents don't use that Apple TV?
When it fires up it’s sharing according to Disney.
 
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