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Just means you have to be pickier about what's worth it to you to pay to watch. For me, Netflix covers about half of what I would care to watch and certainly as much as I have time to watch. Adding HBO is another 25%, and Netflix plus HBO Go together still cost about 15% of what a cable package that includes HBO would.

Just as long as they don't fragment further.... ugh.
 
That's not the "a la carte" that everyone is talking about.
It is. Each studio having their own service. That's a la carte.
Netflix is not "a la carte." You subscribe to one and get everything, just like the traditional cable.
"a la carte" != paying less. :p
 
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That's not the "a la carte" that everyone is talking about.

It shows why a la carte is more or less dead. Why would a company agree to be part of a bundle and get $1-$5 per subscriber per month as part of a bundle if they are convinced they can get double that if they offer a direct service.

Just imagine our ATVs in another 3-5 years.... dozens of individual apps, one for each premium channel you want to watch and each one holding their hand out for their $8 a month.
 
Steve Jobs personally acquired a large chunk of Disney stock in exchange for Pixar. Does his estate (widow) still own this? If so, wouldn't she have a say in whether Apple has access to Disney content?

Why is this up for debate? This new Disney service will just be another channel, or app, to access via Apple TV, Roku, etc.
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No. Stockholders do not have a say in day-to-day operations. Those are management decisions. The Jobs stake in Disney is also under 5%.

isnt the Jobs estate still the largest shareholder?
 
Altogether now...
#When you wish upon a star / makes no difference who you are / when you wish upon a star your dreams come true.
Unless your dream is to stream / on Netflix and everything.... / Then your dream does not fit in with what they'll do.
 
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Well, this sucks. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Same with Star Trek - new series and all previous series and movies available on CBS All Access (online subscription). CBS released all the Star Trek Series as a box set on DVD and BR (for the last time?). No word as to the continued availability of Star Trek as downloads or elsewhere online. I just upgraded my Star Trek Enterprise discs to BR.

Also the same with Stargate. Rumors of a "Stargate Online" where MGM will have all the show available there - for a subscription. All the DVD's/BR's are out-of-print. Unknown how much longer they will be available online as downloads as well. I just upgraded my Stargate Atlantis and Stargate Universe discs to BR...

http://deadline.com/2017/07/mgm-stargate-franchise-digital-series-stargate-origins-1202131483/

That is the way the industry is going - movies/show on-demand pay-per-view/subcription with an Internet connection required (now you get the data cap fees).

No more "owning" movies/shows... :eek:
 
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Disney owns the content, and as long as they are not breaching any existing contract, they can choose how they want to deliver said content to end users.

However, I do wonder why a publishing house would want to bear the burden/overhead of maintaining and hosting their own service when they could just let others(Apple, Netflix, whoever) do it for them?
I just wonder who will be the first to stop releasing discs and go streaming only. My bet is also Disney. CDs and DVDs are a dying breed.
 
Same with Star Trek - new series and all previous series and movies available on CBS All Access (online subscription). CBS released all the Star Trek Series as a box set on DVD and BR (for the last time?). No word as to the continued availability of Star Trek as downloads or elsewhere online.

Also the same with Stargate. Rumors of a "Stargate Online" where MGM will have all the show available there - for a subscription. All the DVD's/BR's are out-of-print. Unknown how much longer they will be available online as downloads as well. I just upgraded my Stargate Atlantis discs to BR...

http://deadline.com/2017/07/mgm-stargate-franchise-digital-series-stargate-origins-1202131483/

That is the way the industry is going - movies/show on-demand pay-per-view/subcription with an Internet connection required (now you get the data cap fees).

No more "owning" movies/shows... :eek:
Sadly our entire exonomy is going subscription-based. Ownership will be a thing of the past in 20-30 years.
 
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Precisely. Many people used the logic "I can get Netflix for $7.99 a month, I don't need cable for $50 a month" ... and now people are finding by the time they subscribe to DirecTVnow, Netflix, and the ala carte stuff they want to add, they're back up spending the $$$ they initially wanted to get away from spending. LOL

Any they wonder why piracy exists...Lol
Its gonna be so fragmented that people wont be able to justify even the cost of one for the small fraction of its content they actually want to see cause majority of their shows are spread across other services.
 
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another comparison could be what is happening to the Steam platform - now with EA's origin, Ubisoft, and other competing services.

Many AAA titles are now gone from Steam!


- I foresee the same thing for Netflix - and they cant keeping making their own expensive series without a big subscriber base - the banks need to keep a limit of their debt!

And privately - I think everybody has a choking point for the number of streaming services that a household can keep running on..
 
Fragmentation will be the death of this.
Eventually consumers just wont have the money to keep adding a monthly subscription service.

Exactly this. If only they all work together and license content, it could work. Consumers don't want to pay for 5 different streaming subscription services to watch specific content, just one size fits all. Shame they just can't work together and see this.
 
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Yep. TiVo user experience consistently trumps all other services. That's why TiVo users are like Mac users... once a user always a user. The experience is flawless. Cable company boxes, even the most advanced brand new ones, are garbage. FYI Tivo requires no contract, and skips commercials ;-)

Tivo requires a monthly subscription or the huge ass fee up front for life of the device.....in order for it to be used. Otherwise it is just a brick sucking electricity. I love 'em, though.
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Okay. Next thing I'm going to pay subscription for my toilet paper.

Amazon offers that....btw
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Exactly this. If only they all work together and license content, it could work. Consumers don't want to pay for 5 different streaming subscription services to watch specific content, just one size fits all. Shame they just can't work together and see this.

It is all about the $$$ why broker a license fee from Disney when Disney can just get the $$$ from the subscribers directly.....and not have to worry about Netflix. We will never see a streaming device that encompasses all without 30 different Apps to view them.....
 
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Disney plans to pull all of its movies from Netflix as it prepares to launch its own streaming services, the company said in its latest earnings report (via CNBC.)

Starting in early 2018, Disney will launch an ESPN video streaming service that will feature approximately 10,000 MLB, NHL, MLS, collegiate, and tennis sporting events every year.

Then, in 2019, Disney will launch a Disney-branded direct-to-consumer streaming service that offers Disney content.

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It's not clear when Disney plans to remove its content from Netflix, but in 2012, the two companies inked a deal that saw Netflix getting exclusive access to Disney, Marvel, Lucasfilm, and Pixar films. Currently, there are dozens of Disney movies available on Netflix, like The Chronicles of Narnia, Moana, Zootopia, Finding Dory, The Jungle Book, Pirates of the Caribbean, and more.

The deal, though initiated in 2012, didn't fully go into effect until 2016, so Netflix has only had access to a wide range of Disney content for under a year.

With its huge range of content, Disney stands to become a major competitor to existing streaming services like Netflix and Hulu, and for Apple, this essentially means that if the company ever does manage to launch a streaming service, it may not be able to include any Disney content.

Article Link: Disney to Pull Movies From Netflix, Launch New Streaming Services

F... Disney, seriously. I'm not going to pay $15 or whatever to every single network/company/copyright holder, what I need is a central repository and so far Netflix has been amazing, with Amazon trailing behind as a distant 2nd. What will happen is Netflix and Amazon will continue to release amazing new content included in its sub and Disney will see that much less users. I have a strong suspicion Disney tried to raise it's licensing fees to Netflix and Netflix said no. Although I respect a company trying to make as much profit as they can, the greed with online content is a bit much. Make money from the movie release, then the DVD, then all the merchandising around the content, and now they just have to charge a separate sub instead of being happy with licensing fees.
 
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Tivo requires a monthly subscription or the huge ass fee up front for life of the device.....in order for it to be used. Otherwise it is just a brick sucking electricity. I love 'em, though.

They've gotten a lot more competitive than they used to be. And now it's more of buy the box and the subscription as one, so it's basically just paying for everything as one. Before the box was subsidized based on the fact you had a monthly service. I think now most customers just pay all-in and buy the box with forever service. Too many people used to get mad not understanding the "service" wasn't to be able to use the box you bought, but to recover the cost they lost selling the box below mfg cost. The model is coming back in other areas though. Now a lot of the internet cameras require you to pay them a subscription if you want to be able to view your camera or archive content, even if you provide the location for archive. Just a different model for revenue. Remember the days of "Free Phone" with 2 years of overpaying for cell service? LOL
 
Media critics envisioned a world -- right about now -- where major US networks don't exist (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox) as well as cable (USA Network) will cease t exist & all content providers will have specialized channels only airing content they produce w/ no filler.

It already exists in Latin America where Warner Bros. Channel or Universal Channel air a mix of all genres, each w/ content they put out. It's efficient. So Warner Channel will air this week's new Mom (Anna Faris) followed by an old Friends, then this week's new Big Bang. No real primetime.

Is this a global Netflix decision? US has different deals than say, Canada, where we don't get Disney Channel series, but do get Nickelodeon (Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn season 1 & 2).
 
Yep. TiVo user experience consistently trumps all other services. That's why TiVo users are like Mac users... once a user always a user. The experience is flawless. Cable company boxes, even the most advanced brand new ones, are garbage. FYI Tivo requires no contract, and skips commercials ;-)

TIVO sucks these days. I used to be a hardcore user, I've purchased several TIVO boxes and lifetime subs, those boxes are all sitting in my backyard shed piled up in a corner. I agree that cable boxes are complete garbage though. I don't use either, I stream all my stuff directly from each channels site from a PC I have connected to my projector. So much more intuitive and easy to just use a mouse to browse. Commercials are not an issue because I have a cable sub, but I'd say skipping commercials is one VERY good reason to use TIVO, although a very expensive one. You are paying for the hardware box AND a subscription for something that IMO can be done through software and streaming on a PC.
 
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1. You don't need cable to use a TiVo. There is an OTA version now.
2. Companies who own content don't want to divide up their content into individual channels, and nobody can force them to.
3. If television and movies get treated like music, then people will just stop making television and movies. If everyone devalues the end product nobody will front the money to make it.
4. People can illegally pirate, that is their choice. It will never be the convenient thing for the majority, at least not for another 40 years.

I'm not saying any of this is ideal, just sharing information on some previous posts all at once.
 
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