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You're wrong. That's all there is to it.

No... You are wrong. You seem to be looking at the world only through your eyes. There are 7.5 billion people in the world and most of them are over 35 years of age, and half of them are women. In addition more and more people are childless. These are the sort of people that often will prefer Netflix or Prime with their content over what Disney offers. And many others will want multiple services to watch. The prices that are on offer are not unreasonable and we really need to move on from this "entitled" mindset of getting things free or low priced. This sort of thinking is what ruined the app store with the "Freemium crap."
 
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Maybe I’ll give them another shot. The voiceover stuff just made the wording seem so cheesy and stupid. Made me not want to pay attention. What shows are good that you’ve found?
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Name a few shows?

I’ve only ever seen voiceovers on (older) Asian shows or films like Monkey (Magic) where I think it was done deliberately for comedic effect. Otherwise I’ve never seen it in Australia other than cartoons.

There’s almost nowhere you could say to start, except Europeans can make some very funny comedies. There’s a German film called “Look Who’s Back” where Hitler is reincarnated today. Edgy and funny as hell. If you don’t think Germans have accepted their country”s past and moved on that film proves it.

But the list is literally endless.
 
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Amazing on a site like MacRumors we have people making a issue over the cost of things.

Why? Are you saying that people participating in the forums, on Mac Rumors, don't care how they spend their money?
 
This is not true. Netflix is not choking on debt. They are doing just fine. And they are not struggling to get subs any more than anyone else and are doing better than HBO, Starz, and all the other networks to include CBS. Disney also had debt, and down areas and times, most companies do. Amazon also has highs and lows. This is the nature of business. Your comment seems more to be rooted in some strange desire to create a zero sum gain... Someone has to lose in order for me to win. There are many people, myself included who will sub to both. Amazing on a site like MacRumors we have people making a issue over the cost of things.

https://fortune.com/2019/07/18/netflix-investors-debt/
 



Disney's annual D23 Expo kicked off in Anaheim on Friday, and the company has revealed more details about its upcoming streaming service, Disney+.

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According to CNET, Disney+ will cost $6.99 a month and give subscribers the ability stream up to four devices at the same time, with high-definition 4K content included at no extra cost.

That will make it highly competitive with Netflix, which increased its base price to $9 earlier this year. Netflix also charges subscribers $13 for high definition streaming on two simultaneous streams, and $16 for 4K and four simultaneous streams.

Of course, Netflix has built up a large library of content in its nine years operating as a streaming service, but Disney has a huge stock of established IP to draw from and is launching its platform with more than 500 feature films and over 7,500 shows, including the entire Pixar library and a raft of original content.

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The company is debuting a Ms. Marvel series on the platform, as well as She Hulk and Moon Knight. A live-action Lady and the Tramp adaptation and an Obi-Wan Kenobi original series starring Ewan McGregor will also be exclusive to Disney+.

Other previously announced perks include numerous Star Wars series like The Mandalorian, several Marvel character shows, and exclusive streams for upcoming Disney movies including Frozen 2 and a live-action The Little Mermaid.

Disney's original episodes will be released weekly, in contrast to Netflix's tendency to release entire seasons in one go, and subscribers to the service will be able to set up to seven different user profiles (Netflix allows up to four).

Disney+ is set to launch on November 12 and will be available to watch on Apple TV (tvOS-supported models), iPad, and iPhone, with offline downloads supported on mobile.

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This holiday season is shaping up to be all about the battle of the streaming platforms, with Apple TV+, Apple's new streaming television service, also expected to launch in November.

Apple TV+ will offer all of Apple's original TV shows and movies that are in development, and Apple is spending upwards of $6 billion for content. Little is known about Apple TV+, but it will be available on all devices where the TV app is available when it launches.

Apple has not yet announced pricing for the service, but it is ad free and shows will be available to watch on demand. Current rumors suggest it could be priced at $9.99 per month.

Article Link: Disney+ Will Offer up to Four Simultaneous Streams and 4K Content for $6.99 a Month

So, no new news on if it will launch on XBox One? Is it only launching on the platforms mentioned in this article?
 
I’ve only ever seen voiceovers on (older) Asian shows or films like Monkey (Magic) where I think it was done deliberately for comedic effect. Otherwise I’ve never seen it in Australia other than cartoons.

There’s almost nowhere you could say to start, except Europeans can make some very funny comedies. There’s a German film called “Look Who’s Back” where Hitler is reincarnated today. Edgy and funny as hell. If you don’t think Germans have accepted their country”s past and moved on that film proves it.

But the list is literally endless.

Just noticed that iTunes doesn’t even have it, because I half fancied watching it again. Looks like I’ll have to get a Netflix sub.
 
The “other brand” will likely be Hulu.
I think they have the majority stake in Hulu now, but what are you suggesting? Do you think they’ll change Hulu to become a Disney focused service? Or use it for some of the more adult content? Curious how it all plays out. And if there will be package deals.
 
I think they have the majority stake in Hulu now, but what are you suggesting? Do you think they’ll change Hulu to become a Disney focused service? Or use it for some of the more adult content? Curious how it all plays out. And if there will be package deals.
Yeah i think it will be the home of the more adult-oriented Disney/fox stuff now that they own it (comcast technically owns 33 percent but under the agreement they will likely sell to Disney in 2024, and remove NBC/universal content after that.)
 
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Man in the High Castle, Marvelous Mrs. Maise (which I absolutely adore), Carnivale Row, The Expanse, The Tick, Amazon Boutique Movies they've been producing, Jack Ryan, The Boys, Good Omens, Goliath, Bosch, an upcoming Big Budget Lord of the Rings Series, Hannah, yeah. Amazon Prime, "Hahahah What?"
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I've gone on a TV Show buying spree lately because I think $20 for a complete season of stuff like Breaking Bad, Cheers, Heroes, West Wing, etc is an amazing deal. But put things in perspective, back in the day Season Box Sets of ONE show, one season could easily be $60 now you pay $70 a year for a service and you have access to not only your favorite show but a heck of a lot more stuff. That's a deal to me.

A list of 12 shows is not “extensive”; apple will have that many on arrival—let alone after years—and everyone is in agreement that their offerings will be slim at first
 
I believe in the end, Apple TV+ and Disney+ will be converged into one big major service that will trump Netflix for good. I mean Disney has the content, and Apple has the robust ecosystem.

TV+ on its own is a pathetic attempt from Apple. It's way outside its play ground, I believe even Disney laughs seeing Apple trying to run its own TV show, remember Carpool Karaoke? But when Disney and Apple works together, oh boy do I see Netflix is shivering just thinking about that.
 
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I believe in the end, Apple TV+ and Disney+ will be converged into one big major service that will trump Netflix for good. I mean Disney has the content, and Apple has the robust ecosystem.

TV+ on its own is a pathetic attempt from Apple. It's way outside its play ground, I believe even Disney laughs seeing Apple trying to run its own TV show, remember Carpool Karaoke? But when Disney and Apple works together, oh boy do I see Netflix is shivering just thinking about that.
Apple has a track record of hiring the right people when they want to tackle a new feature, product or technology.

When they decided to design their own silicon, they brought on Johny Srouji, bought P.A. Semi, Intrinsity, Anobit, IP from Freescale/NXP, etc. to get the right people and IP to be successful with that. Of course they also bought PrimeSense, for their 3D sensor technology.

When they decided to get serious about sound, they hired legendary audio inventor Tomlinson Holman—the “TH” in THX—to direct that effort.

Then the Beats purchase—for Dre and Iovine as much as for the headphones and streaming service (as upsetting as that may be to some)—which gave them Beats Music streaming (MOG—>Beats Music—>Apple Music) and a headphone business that’s a cash cow.

Last year they lured Google's chief of search and artificial intelligence, John Giannandrea, to head up their ML and AI efforts.

Which leads me to former Sony Pictures Television presidents Zack Van Amburg and Jamie Erlicht. At Sony since 2005, they created programs for Amazon, Hulu, Netflix and others. Their programs include Better Call Saul, The Blacklist, Bloodline, Breaking Bad, The Crown, Damages, The Goldbergs, Justified, Preacher, Rescue Me, The Shield, Sneaky Pete and many more. Apple hired them a couple years ago.

I guess we’ll soon see how “pathetic” Van Amburg and Erlicht’s latest creations will turn out to be. But I think you’re going to be as wrong about Apple TV+ as the naysayers were about iPod, iPhone, Apple Watch, etc.
 
I guess we’ll soon see how “pathetic” Van Amburg and Erlicht’s latest creations will turn out to be. But I think you’re going to be as wrong about Apple TV+ as the naysayers were about iPod, iPhone, Apple Watch, etc.

Why not also add in Apple’s failures too into your comparisons? Are you saying there haven’t been failures?
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I believe in the end, Apple TV+ and Disney+ will be converged into one big major service that will trump Netflix for good. I mean Disney has the content, and Apple has the robust ecosystem.

TV+ on its own is a pathetic attempt from Apple. It's way outside its play ground, I believe even Disney laughs seeing Apple trying to run its own TV show, remember Carpool Karaoke? But when Disney and Apple works together, oh boy do I see Netflix is shivering just thinking about that.

I very much doubt this will ever happen. Apple and Disney really have no overlaps here especially in mantra. Disney doesn’t care about Apple. The Apple ecosystem is fairly small globally especially for 10 foot experiences.
 
Sorry if this has been discussed. I know they will Air the shows weekly and not allow binging. How many episodes will they keep online to watch before deleting them?

Will you be able to just wait all season and then binge it once the season is over?
 
I very much doubt this will ever happen. Apple and Disney really have no overlaps here especially in mantra. Disney doesn’t care about Apple. The Apple ecosystem is fairly small globally especially for 10 foot experiences.

Well at the moment it is indeed unlikely. But you can always see Apple X Disney little bits here and there. Mickey and Toys Story on Apple Watch faces, or how Disney/Pixar films often refer to MacOS when it comes to scenes involving computer. Even a few MCU movies highlighting Apple's product placement here and there (Dr. Strange and Civil War refer to Apple Music, for example).

And of course Apple/Disney share some of the board directors. So I know it is unlikely, but still possible in the future. Especially when TV+ only has so many content to begin with.
 
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Well at the moment it is indeed unlikely. But you can always see Apple X Disney little bits here and there. Mickey and Toys Story on Apple Watch faces, or how Disney/Pixar films often refer to MacOS when it comes to scenes involving computer. Even a few MCU movies highlighting Apple's product placement here and there (Dr. Strange and Civil War refer to Apple Music, for example).

And of course Apple/Disney share some of the board directors. So I know it is unlikely, but still possible in the future. Especially when TV+ only has so many content to begin with.

I think you are forcing a pipe dream here. Disney doesn’t need Apple, and they don’t gain much from being acquired either. In fact I’d argue Apple acquiring Disney would hinder both.

Much of Apple/Disney bits is called product placement and is mutual.
 
I think you are forcing a pipe dream here. Disney doesn’t need Apple, and they don’t gain much from being acquired either. In fact I’d argue Apple acquiring Disney would hinder both.

Much of Apple/Disney bits is called product placement and is mutual.

LOL yeah you may be right. Disney has all the content it needs, but I can also see Apple's layout on Disney+ interface previews.

Maybe it's just me wanting Apple TV+ to be successful because it needs lots of content to begin with, and Disney has it. You are correct, Disney has the leverage here. But I don't mind if my pipe dream coming true. Maybe bundling TV+ and Disney+ for $9.99 (making TV+ costs a mere extra $3.00) if you subscribe through Apple, at least for a limited time?
 
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Sorry if this has been discussed. I know they will Air the shows weekly and not allow binging. How many episodes will they keep online to watch before deleting them?

Will you be able to just wait all season and then binge it once the season is over?

The episodes will likely remain available for as long as the service remains active. You could subscribe for a month a year and then binge on all the content which has been released up till then, but in this day and age of instant gratification, I am not sure how many people will be patient enough to wait for this to be worth their while.
 
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LOL yeah you may be right. Disney has all the content it needs, but I can also see Apple's layout on Disney+ interface previews.

Maybe it's just me wanting Apple TV+ to be successful because it needs lots of content to begin with, and Disney has it. You are correct, Disney has the leverage here. But I don't mind if my pipe dream coming true. Maybe bundling TV+ and Disney+ for $9.99 (making TV+ costs a mere extra $3.00) if you subscribe through Apple, at least for a limited time?

Disney has content that we’ve seen before (that is worthwhile). In terms of new content for their service only it’ll be as slow going as Apple. It’s basically Disney channel plus but I never watch Disney channel as it is. I don’t get the excitement unless you’re a kid. Maybe it’s a millennial thing
 
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LOL yeah you may be right. Disney has all the content it needs, but I can also see Apple's layout on Disney+ interface previews.

Maybe it's just me wanting Apple TV+ to be successful because it needs lots of content to begin with, and Disney has it. You are correct, Disney has the leverage here. But I don't mind if my pipe dream coming true. Maybe bundling TV+ and Disney+ for $9.99 (making TV+ costs a mere extra $3.00) if you subscribe through Apple, at least for a limited time?

My main concern here is that Apple TV+ will limit content availability for Disney. Disney is all about a global audience, and Apple really isn’t. It’s not even worth dreaming about because it makes little sense.

I think if somehow they miraculously worked cohesively together, I definitely think investors would be happy. I think they would probably offer the whole bundle for the same price as Netflix if not a tad cheaper
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Disney has content that we’ve seen before (that is worthwhile). In terms of new content for their service only it’ll be as slow going as Apple. It’s basically Disney channel plus but I never watch Disney channel as it is. I don’t get the excitement unless you’re a kid. Maybe it’s a millennial thing

You forget they own ABC, NatGeo, Fox, to name a few. The service won’t just have Disney kids content.
 
Disney has content that we’ve seen before (that is worthwhile). In terms of new content for their service only it’ll be as slow going as Apple. It’s basically Disney channel plus but I never watch Disney channel as it is. I don’t get the excitement unless you’re a kid. Maybe it’s a millennial thing

I think you're confusing "Disney" with Disney the company.

Disney streaming will incorporate ALL disney owned holdings. This includes:
ABC, ESPN, Touchstone pictures, Marvel Studios, Lucasfilm, A&E, History Channel. LIfetime. Pixar. Hollywood Records and 20th century Fox.

Disney will be able to exclusively stream content libraries from all of the above. Plus any and all new content those studios release. In Addition to Disney's own "Disney" content.
 
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