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The thing that sticks out to me is the fact that the family was concerned that they lost all their pictures. These days there is no reason the loss or destruction of a phone should result in losing your photos. Purchase more iCloud storage and turn on iCloud photo syncing. Or load the Google Photos app. For crying out loud, at least turn on iCloud backup.
Perhaps read the other comments? The father in this story actually commented and iCloud photo backup was on, however typically the photos only backup when connected to wifi, so in this case they had lost the photos from that day.
 
Not if a phone with a replaceable battery was made to be waterproof from the start. My point was that it is possible to build a waterproof device with replaceable components, contrary to what the person I quoted seemed to believe. Not really sure how you missed it.
It's not possible to build a waterproof device with replaceable components, without either the device being noticeably bigger, or the battery being noticeably smaller.
 
I own an iPhone 7 and several iPads...all with my same Apple ID. I tried using iCloud to backup iPhone 7 Photos a few years ago and had a management nightmare:

1)Enabling it on my iPhone somehow enabled it on all my iPads. Not good. I don't have dirty pix but I don't want my pix spread across all my iPads for anyone who picks up the iPad to see. And no, I do not use passcodes on my iDevices.

2)Once enabled on all my iDevices, I was able to disable it but it wasn't super simple.

3)I believe there is (or should be) a way to push the pix to iCloud as a general backup but it would be nice to have it available as some kind of remote viewing/access if I enter my Apple ID & pw with some app. Meaning: push the pix from my iPhone to iCloud and then hop on my iPad and use a certain app that prompts me for a username/pw to access the iCloud pix for that session.

4)Building on #1, once the iPads were all picking up my iPhone pix, I also started receiving pix on my iPhone that were taken from the iPads. Again, the management (and privacy) was not very easy to use.

5)it was very confusing figuring out what photos were taken on what devices because they were all mish moshed together.

Maybe some of these items have been fixed in the past 2-3 years but I didn't care for the process of iCloud and photos. Now put yourself in the shoes of people who do take dirty selfies and/or more private pix and you'll understand why some of us do/did not use iCloud.

If things have gotten far easier with iOS 12.x or 13.x, please let me know (with examples if you can) and maybe I'll give it another shot.


I don’t think you understand the point of iCloud. The whole point of iCloud is sharing the data between all the devices (among other things as if they’re all the same device). It’s Apple’s way, instead of trying to make one device be every format (eg. convertible hybrid laptop tablets).

If you don’t want these devices sharing information then perhaps they should have separate iCloud IDs.

In short, you’re doing it wrong.*

*And no I’m not trying to be a smart ass. I’m genuinely saying your description of what you’re trying to do defies the intention and purpose of iCloud. these items won’t be ”fixed” because they’re not broken.
 
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Use a vpn.
Which in turn kills battery life. As if a day of photo-taking at Disneyland isn't taxing enough on your phone's battery as is. Turning on data for iCloud photo library has the dual drawbacks of eating your battery life and your data plan. So neither is as viable an option as people are making them out to be.

I don't get all these comments saying the owner of the phone should have done this or that. Sure, I have all my data and settings backed up to the cloud, and were I to lose my phone suddenly, I could easily restore it on a whim, but the point is that someone lost something expensive which was then subsequently returned to her.

I will say she was lucky too. I have friends whose iPhones stopped working just by having water splashed on them, so definitely good for her.
 
Which in turn kills battery life. As if a day of photo-taking at Disneyland isn't taxing enough on your phone's battery as is. Turning on data for iCloud photo library has the dual drawbacks of eating your battery life and your data plan. So neither is as viable an option as people are making them out to be.

I don't get all these comments saying the owner of the phone should have done this or that. Sure, I have all my data and settings backed up to the cloud, and were I to lose my phone suddenly, I could easily restore it on a whim, but the point is that someone lost something expensive which was then subsequently returned to her.

I will say she was lucky too. I have friends whose iPhones stopped working just by having water splashed on them, so definitely good for her.
VPN+WiFi likely uses less power than LTE.
 
Thank you! That’s great to know. I’ll be going there later this year, so I’ll definitely log on — I wouldn’t have thought to look for WiFi inside a theme park!

No problem! It's gotten better as the years have progressed. BTW, if you go to Hollywood Studios and are trying to get into a virtual boarding group I've read it might be better to switch off WiFi and try cellular. So many people at the same place trying to do the same thing.
 
I own an iPhone 7 and several iPads...all with my same Apple ID. I tried using iCloud to backup iPhone 7 Photos a few years ago and had a management nightmare:

1)Enabling it on my iPhone somehow enabled it on all my iPads. Not good. I don't have dirty pix but I don't want my pix spread across all my iPads for anyone who picks up the iPad to see. And no, I do not use passcodes on my iDevices.

2)Once enabled on all my iDevices, I was able to disable it but it wasn't super simple.

3)I believe there is (or should be) a way to push the pix to iCloud as a general backup but it would be nice to have it available as some kind of remote viewing/access if I enter my Apple ID & pw with some app. Meaning: push the pix from my iPhone to iCloud and then hop on my iPad and use a certain app that prompts me for a username/pw to access the iCloud pix for that session.

4)Building on #1, once the iPads were all picking up my iPhone pix, I also started receiving pix on my iPhone that were taken from the iPads. Again, the management (and privacy) was not very easy to use.

5)it was very confusing figuring out what photos were taken on what devices because they were all mish moshed together.

This is what we like to call "expected behaviour"
 
First thing I thought when I read this is: Was iCloud on? If not, a good lesson to have it.

A few years ago, when celebrity pictures were stolen and leaked from iCloud, one could often read opinions that the victims were in part to blame: one should not entrust anything private to the cloud. Big media ran articles on how to disable iCloud.

I'm not saying those were right - indeed there are pros and cons either way, so I don't think there is one correct choice. But a good many people back then took the events as a lesson not to have iCloud on.
 
Yeah, sorry, I wish I knew too. But yep, had to have been at least 24 hours. And up to ~2 months.

it’s not just the amount of time to consider. I once briefly had my iPhone X in my swim trunks in a pool. It was fine when I took it out, but as I tried to pry it out of its Apple case, which was difficult to do without a decent amount of pressure, the phone must have bent slightly and then water got in. Dead phone. It was sad to see it die in person. RIP
 
Good news for the family getting the pictures back :) It's just a little unfortunate the waterproofing is a bit pot luck - this phone survived immersion in what sounds like quite deep water (over the 2m it's rated for?) for at least several hours while another might be damaged from a quick dunk in the sink. It would be great to get really consistent, effective waterproofing that meant the phone could be used for aquatic photography... maybe eventually?
 
A few years ago, when celebrity pictures were stolen and leaked from iCloud, one could often read opinions that the victims were in part to blame: one should not entrust anything private to the cloud. Big media ran articles on how to disable iCloud.

I'm not saying those were right - indeed there are pros and cons either way, so I don't think there is one correct choice. But a good many people back then took the events as a lesson not to have iCloud on.
A better lesson to learn, since the cloud is inevitable, is to use a strong password (preferably a different one for every site), and two factors.
 
I own an iPhone 7 and several iPads...all with my same Apple ID. I tried using iCloud to backup iPhone 7 Photos a few years ago and had a management nightmare:

1)Enabling it on my iPhone somehow enabled it on all my iPads. Not good. I don't have dirty pix but I don't want my pix spread across all my iPads for anyone who picks up the iPad to see. And no, I do not use passcodes on my iDevices.

2)Once enabled on all my iDevices, I was able to disable it but it wasn't super simple.

3)I believe there is (or should be) a way to push the pix to iCloud as a general backup but it would be nice to have it available as some kind of remote viewing/access if I enter my Apple ID & pw with some app. Meaning: push the pix from my iPhone to iCloud and then hop on my iPad and use a certain app that prompts me for a username/pw to access the iCloud pix for that session.

4)Building on #1, once the iPads were all picking up my iPhone pix, I also started receiving pix on my iPhone that were taken from the iPads. Again, the management (and privacy) was not very easy to use.

5)it was very confusing figuring out what photos were taken on what devices because they were all mish moshed together.

Maybe some of these items have been fixed in the past 2-3 years but I didn't care for the process of iCloud and photos. Now put yourself in the shoes of people who do take dirty selfies and/or more private pix and you'll understand why some of us do/did not use iCloud.

If things have gotten far easier with iOS 12.x or 13.x, please let me know (with examples if you can) and maybe I'll give it another shot.
What your complaining about is exactly the way I want it to work. I have every photo I've ever taken accessible on every device (69K and counting)
 
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IP68 iPhone 11 water resistance rating = submersion in water for 30 minutes at 1.5 meters.

So this one survived.
Still.... if it's accidentally dropped in a toilet or pool or sink full of water or rinsed under running water or gets wet in the rain and it DOES leak, Apple won't warranty it. The IP68 rating is not guaranteed.
Apple's latest phones are actually more water resistant than what IP68 rating says it is.
 
I know several parents who left their phone on the counter, went to the shower or bathroom for a few mins, and some child under the age of 10 punched in the wrong code X times and locked them out for several hours to a few days. That scared me enough.

Unless they've changed the way this works, that's not the way it worked for me. In my case I have the phone set to erase after 10 wrong password attempts, I wanted to see how it worked. But after multiple attempts, it made me wait a few minutes, the next time longer, and the next time even longer (I think I gave up at the 30-minute lockout, I was mostly curious if it'd start playing any alarms before self-destructing). They'd have to be gone a LONG time before it locked out for days, not just a few minutes. (Again, it's possible they've changed it, but I can't imagine how/why they'd drastically change it so a few minutes of clicking would lock you out for DAYS.)
 
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Who’s complaining?

Simply stated facts.

Phone was in my wetsuit cargo shorts pocket when I went in. Came back up and realized only then it was there.

Alas. Her phone did better. No idea what depth the lagoons are at the point she dropped it. Either way, her phone would definitely have been under more than 30 minutes.
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It was in my wetsuit pocket unbeknownst to me when I dropped in.
Only realized when I was snacking and looking for my phone topside that my phone was an unwilling dive partner.
Ouch
 
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