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You’re hilarious. I have not argued against objectivity. There are many things that are objectively better on Android, and vice-versa. This particular feature is not one of them. But I guess you have gone too deep in rage to see it, so… thanks for the laugh. EOD.
 
That's it, waiting until next year. My XR is getting tired though.
Your XR is tired? I’m still using a 6s. It would be fine except for bloated websites, the worsening battery (it’s already been replaced once), and whatever Apple service that’s making typing lag when switching apps (wasn’t an issue a year ago, yet this phone has seen no iOS updates in longer than that).
 
I might be in the minority, but hole punch camera is more annoying than the notch. With a hole punch, there’s content around it, so it’s more noticeable.

I liked that concept from a couple years ago where the camera system was squished into the top bezel-

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Didn’t we already have this, only with larger bezels? My 6s has no distracting holes or notches. It’s just a straight rectangular screen. It even has a home button. Why did Apple think they needed to squeeze more screen in at the top and bottom, creating more usability issues (seriously, yet more gestures??) and the concept of a notch. Instead of extra screen at the top, people see a notch of missing screen, because of course; that’s what it looks like.
 
I'm one of those people that just gets the new iPhone ever year, but seeing these 14 rumors and potentially the fairly large jump it makes on some issues makes me feel even more underwhelmed on this year's release of the 13. I know I'll like the 120 hz screen (i have an ipad pro and i like it) but at the same time i know a week in i won't notice anymore anyway. Oh well... fall of 2022 looks fun lol.
Every year???? WHY??
 
What is the obsession with a notch and the unhealthy, anorexic obsession with thinness? I really don't notice it. Its actually a pretty good used for phone indicator information. Honestly, a periscope zoom lens camera, better battery life and getting rid of the charging port in favor of better water resistance would be better issues for product development to focus on.
The “charging port”? You mean the data connector that lets us do high speed backups, connect various peripherals...? Get rid of that??
 
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People who create these mockups of iPhones always make the colors on the display look like a Galaxy phone. Sorry, but the colors on a real iPhone are not that vivid.
 
Apple just needs to ditch Face ID. Years later and it's still not great technology on my 12 Pro (I still have face scans fail and I have turned off requiring attention). This is especially true during a global pandemic that will likely be around for years. What's wrong with just picking up your phone and having it unlock because you're holding it? Just make the entire display Touch ID compatible. Face ID has always felt gimmicky to me. Sure, it's secure, but it's not the ideal way to use it. Then we don't have to worry about all of these compromises with under display areas that don't look right and are probably going to be expensive to engineer and manufacture.
Agreed. Face ID has been a disaster. There are so many times throughout the day that I have to adapt my workflow to specifically position my phone to unlock it, whereas with TouchID I never had that problem.
Ways I CAN'T unlock my phone any more:
1) While in my pocket
2) While in my console mount in my car
3) While on my nightstand in the dark
4) While holding over a tap-to-pay terminal
5) While laying flat on my desk
Face ID was just a bad idea that Apple pushed because they were proud of the more "complex" technology of identifying faces. They never stopped to ask if it would make anything easier or better. It didn't.
 
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Look up “fun”. Not everyone has been exposed to it yet.
Look up "waste". Not everyone has taken responsibility yet. Certainly not the corporations that get away with convincing people to buy the same damn product repeatedly, every year.

Also not cool is that you're effectively mocking people for not having the same disposable income by saying this indulgent waste is "fun" and they should try it sometime. 🙄
 
Look up "waste". Not everyone has taken responsibility yet. Certainly not the corporations that get away with convincing people to buy the same damn product repeatedly, every year.

Also not cool is that you're effectively mocking people for not having the same disposable income by saying this indulgent waste is "fun" and they should try it sometime. 🙄
I did not say others should try buying iPhones every year. I said they should try having fun.

I do actually agree that it is incredibly wasteful and I don’t do it myself. I’m just making a tongue-in-cheek comment that very few purchases people make are actually based in what they *need*. If purchases was based on neccesity, we would have a building industry, a food industry, a clothing industry, and nothing else. Everything above that is luxury. The fact that you even have *any* device to write this comment on, makes you a wasteful consumer as well. You just calibrated your definition of a “reasonable” upgrade cycle to whatever fits your purpose.

Personally, I switch my phone more often than I need, though not every year. I choose to have the phone (and my car) as my indulgence. On the other hand, I currently use a ten year old laptop, and I have not bought a new TV for 12 years. So maybe you shouldn’t point fingers at ither people’s habits, when you don’t know the full picture.
 
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I did not say others should try buying iPhones every year. I said they should try having fun.

I do actually agree that it is incredibly wasteful and I don’t do it myself. I’m just making a tongue-in-cheek comment that very few purchases people make are actually based in what they *need*. If purchases was based on neccesity, we would have a building industry, a food industry, a clothing industry, and nothing else. Everything above that is luxury. The fact that you even have *any* device to write this comment on, makes you a wasteful consumer as well. You just calibrated your definition of a “reasonable” upgrade cycle to whatever fits your purpose.
How do you judge that merely having a phone at all is wasteful? This thing is absolute necessity for my ability to navigate when traveling in unknown areas, safety (so long as there’s cell service), and helps keep me in touch with the very few people in my life who give a damn about my existence, when they’re spread out around the country. This isn’t luxury. A use that’s just above bare subsistence does not make it luxury.
 
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How do you judge that merely having a phone at all is wasteful? This thing is absolute necessity for my ability to navigate when traveling in unknown areas, safety (so long as there’s cell service), and helps keep me in touch with the very few people in my life who give a damn about my existence, when they’re spread out around the country. This isn’t luxury. A use that’s just above bare subsistence does not make it luxury.
Travelling anywhere is a luxury! And you can totally travel with a paper map, people did it for hundreds of years before GPS was invented. I do it in the weekends, for fun and exercise.

I’m exaggerating to make a point: Don’t be judgemental about other people’s habits, especially when you don’t know anything about them other than this one thing. You have your justifications for buying the things you do, I have mine. And where we draw the line between luxury and necessity will vary, as well as how much luxury we allow ourselves, vary. That doesn’t mean I’m a wasteful person that doesn’t give a crap about the environment.

One thing that always annoys me though (broadly speaking, don’t take it personal), is how people feel the need to justify luxury purchases by convincing themselves that they need this particular thing, for some specific purpose. Why not just be honest with yourself, and buy it because it makes you happy.
 
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Travelling anywhere is a luxury! And you can totally travel with a paper map, people did it for hundreds of years before GPS was invented. I do it in the weekends, for fun and exercise.

I’m exaggerating to make a point: Don’t be judgemental about other people’s habits, especially when you don’t know anything about them other than this one thing. You have your justifications for buying the things you do, I have mine. And where we draw the line between luxury and necessity will vary, as well as how much luxury we allow ourselves, vary. That doesn’t mean I’m a wasteful person that doesn’t give a crap about the environment.

One thing that always annoys me though (broadly speaking, don’t take it personal), is how people feel the need to justify luxury purchases by convincing themselves that they need this particular thing, for some specific purpose. Why not just be honest with yourself, and buy it because it makes you happy.
Don't be judgemental? Jesus Christ, man; you don't know what my needs are, or what other people's abilities are, but you're assuming to know both, and assuming that anything outside the bare minimum for people "hundreds of years ago" is luxury. Society and civilization is NOT what it was "hundreds of years ago". Neither they, nor you, are a default model by which all current people are measured.

I have neurological disabilities that makes it extremely difficult for me to deal with maps (and other things) that a Palm Pilot, and then an iPhone, resolved for me, enabling me able to function like any other adult. But I guess I should have been dumped in a pit somewhere for inferior genetics. Are glasses also a luxury, or do you grant that people need corrected vision?

These things are literally an assistive technology device for me, and for many other people. They're literally defined as such in various disability assistance programs. Yet, you're telling me about justifying luxury purchases? You're criticizing a person you know nothing about for the "luxury" of having *A* phone to make his life livable, so you could insert yourself into a situation to defend someone else's wasteful buying of a new phone every year *because it's fun*.

Step back a bit and make a critical examination of what you're doing here.

And no, "broadly speaking, don’t take it personal" doesn't get you off the hook for your presumptions. You don't know what everyone else *needs*.
 
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Don't be judgemental? Jesus Christ, man; you don't know what my needs are, or what other people's abilities are, but you're assuming to know both, and assuming that anything outside the bare minimum for people "hundreds of years ago" is luxury. Society and civilization is NOT what it was "hundreds of years ago". Neither they, nor you, are a default model by which all current people are measured.

I have neurological disabilities that makes it extremely difficult for me to deal with maps (and other things) that a Palm Pilot, and then an iPhone, resolved for me, enabling me able to function like any other adult. But I guess I should have been dumped in a pit somewhere for inferior genetics. Are glasses also a luxury, or do you grant that people need corrected vision?

These things are literally an assistive technology device for me, and for many other people. They're literally defined as such in various disability assistance programs. Yet, you're telling me about justifying luxury purchases? You're criticizing a person you know nothing about for the "luxury" of having *A* phone to make his life livable, so you could insert yourself into a situation to defend someone else's wasteful buying of a new phone every year *because it's fun*.

Step back a bit and make a critical examination of what you're doing here.

And no, "broadly speaking, don’t take it personal" doesn't get you off the hook for your presumptions. You don't know what everyone else *needs*.
I’m sorry I offended you… Jesus F Christ.
 
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I might be in the minority, but hole punch camera is more annoying than the notch. With a hole punch, there’s content around it, so it’s more noticeable.

I liked that concept from a couple years ago where the camera system was squished into the top bezel-

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Agree. Might as well keep the notch if they are going to go to a hole-punch camera. I think the dead center hole punch camera doesn't look great. If they are making a hole punch stick it in one of the corners so it's not as noticeable when watching content full screen.
 
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These guys are ALL full of s... They sit around and make up stuff, and once in a while they get it right enough that people believe them.

It is so easy to make predictions and say it is from an unnamed source. Big f...... deal. They have NO secret connections, they just make it up...

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
And I had it right...

No significant changes at all really - a slightly smaller notch, and a marginally better battery life on the iPhone, and a faster Watch, and a bit bigger display... LOL
 
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