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rt_brained said:
On the other hand, this being Steve's first big outing since surgery and considering all the work and preparation that goes into the keynote, it could be an attempt to lighten his workload a bit.

I think the iPod Photo and U2 iPod launch (which Steve did) happened after his surgery.
 
SiliconAddict said:
More accurately if he does that I will walk out into the parking lot of my building and scream until I'm horse.

Wow! Is that possible? How would you change back?
;)

i_b_joshua
 
captain kirk said:
I think i can help here, the level of edu discount apple gives depends on how much margin they have on a product, apple make considerably more money on the powermac than on the imac, hence the edu discount is bigger on the powermac, it is also the reason why there is a much bigger edu saving on software.

Yes, but before yesterday, they were sold for the same price, whether or not you were an edu customer. And I still think its odd that whether one machine is higher than another depends on the edu status.
 
JGowan said:
Sorry... the new lineup of Apple displays are not standard. Have you ever even seen or used one?

I don't own a G5 tower but have an AI 23" display. I didn't get for its looks (though it is the belle of the display ball),... I got it for it's quality. Worth every penny.

Way to distort the facts. I'm talking the 20" display. The cheapest monitor you can get from Apple. There is a diff. the 23" is HD. The 20" isn't. Also there is a slight dot pitch diff which makes one look slightly sharper then the other. Typical zealot response. (Apple or Microsoft.) Twist the facts.

I have 3 apple stores within a 1/2 hour drive of my home. I'm in there almost once a month. Sorry but the contrast isn't anything to get excited over. Get over yourself and your product. Apple makes some good wares. They aren't the best on the planet. Period. And its pretty obviously I can't even talk to you because you aren't even being reasonable at this point. As I said before you can’t deny specs. Simply that the 20” ACD gets blown out of the water by similar wares. "But it looks better" If that is your only response then I pity you and your inability to actually consider other products. Apple must thank god for people like you that don't shop around. *puts on his blinders* But it looks better.
“Have you even checked out the competition?”
“But it looks better!”
“Did you check out the specs?”
“But it looks better!!”
“Did you..
”BUT IT LOOKS BETTER!!!!!”

Edit: OK OK....so the phrase "blown out of the water" is overkill. The hardware is comparable to most things out there. Superior? That is stretching it.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Way to distort the facts. I'm talking the 20" display. The cheapest monitor you can get from Apple. There is a diff. the 23" is HD. The 20" isn't. Also there is a slight dot pitch diff which makes one look slightly sharper then the other. Typical zealot response. (Apple or Microsoft.) Twist the facts.

I have 3 apple stores within a 1/2 hour drive of my home. I'm in there almost once a month. Sorry but the contrast isn't anything to get excited over. Get over yourself and your product. Apple makes some good wares. They aren't the best on the planet. Period. And its pretty obviously I can't even talk to you because you aren't even being reasonable at this point. As I said before you can’t deny specs. Simply that the 20” ACD gets blown out of the water by similar wares. "But it looks better" If that is your only response then I pity you and your inability to actually consider other products. Apple must thank god for people like you that don't shop around. *puts on his blinders* But it looks better.
“Have you even checked out the competition?”
“But it looks better!”
“Did you check out the specs?”
“But it looks better!!”
“Did you..
”BUT IT LOOKS BETTER!!!!!”

So right :D
 
Platform said:

My point exactly. Just because they slapped an Apple logo on it doesn't make it the best, not by a long shot.

I would love to have an ACD, they are beautiful to look at both in use and as a fixture, but for less money, there are monitors out there that display just as well (or better).
 
aldo said:
The DVI cable actually carries both an analog and digital signal. You can just pick up an adaptor that 'converts' VGA to DVI for very cheap. I know all my graphics cards that I have bought for PCs over the years that have both a VGA and a DVI port have came with an adaptor.

I still think Apple should of put a VGA port on the monitor, considering it would of increased it's usefulness dramatically.

You need to bear in mind there are 3 types of DVI:

DVI-D - digital only
DVI-A - analogue only
DVI-I - integrated digital and analogue

Therefore your graphics card / monitor needs either DVI-A or DVI-I to use analogue, does the Apple monitor support analogue connections?

(sorry just seen someone else posted this info.)
 
gforce73111 (a Macrumors Newbie) said:
I can understand all those positive reactions about the price drop, but I feel myself f**ked for 100% with it. I've ordered my system end of June 2004.
A G5 dual 2.5/4Gb Ram/2x250Gb HD/2x30" displays.
I got my full order in November and now not even two month after I got my dream set-up they decide to lower the price of those expensive displays !!!! If I knew this before this would save me around 2.000€.
So thank you very much Steve !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never gonna order the new top products right away. It's better to wait half a year/ a year. It's saves you a lot of money :confused: :( :(
This is pure TROLL at its best. If you had that kind of cash, you wouldn't be so up-in-arms about it, if you actually owned this stuff. Plus you didn't mention the special $599 Video card you would've had to get to run this stuff. Troll, be gone.

For a guy that's throwing around a TON of cash for Dual displays, Warranties (also a non-mentioned item you would've bought with a setup like that) major and very costly Ram which is a hefty commodity, your loud rampage sounds more than a little like "crying wolf" to me -- I just don't buy that you bought this stuff -- not at all. It just sounds like "I'll think of a way to really pitch a b!tch so I can throw Apple under the bus and get people to dislike them". Dude -- that system of which you claim you bought would've been around $12,000 US -- nobody spending that kind of money gives two craps about losing out on $600. Think before you start up the BS machine next time.

And, even if you did get all this (which I'm so seriously doubting [pics and receipts please]), then you would be smart enough to know that Apple has to continue to bob-and-weave with the pricing to keep making the money. First adopters always pay a little more. You have no reason to feel "myself f**ked for 100% with it" -- Loser.
 
Originally Posted by gforce73111
I can understand all those positive reactions about the price drop, but I feel myself f**ked for 100% with it. I've ordered my system end of June 2004.
A G5 dual 2.5/4Gb Ram/2x250Gb HD/2x30" displays.
I got my full order in November and now not even two month after I got my dream set-up they decide to lower the price of those expensive displays !!!!
If I knew this before this would save me around 2.000€.
So thank you very much Steve !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never gonna order the new top products right away. It's better to wait half a year/ a year. It's saves you a lot of money

I just speced out the setup you posted above. Its over $10,000. Sorry but if you can afford a $10,000 setup the price difference before and after shouldn't be making you spit bullets.
 
Damn, I've got the 30" aleady

I just bought the 30" recently, so this kinda blows. It's been like a month or so so I probably can't get a price adjustment. I do a lot of webwork on my website www.WannaWiki.com and the 30" makes everything sooooo much easier, it was well worth it anyway! Go Apple.
 
Yeah, that would suck if you got a high-paying job. Be sure and let us all know how that works out.


Yvan256 said:
Nobody noticed "The New Dual 2.3GHz Xserve G5" and "Xsan. Now shipping."?

Didn't see that yesterday...

Edit: oups, previous thread... didn't see that either. :D

---

Man oh man... Will we really see the iPod micro and "Mac mini" in a few days?

With my weird luck, here's what's going to happen: I've been waiting for years for a low-cost Apple desktop, but I'm sure I'll find a high-paying job at the last second and end up buying the top PowerMac instead. :rolleyes:

Stupid four-leaf clover.
 
Originally Posted by gforce73111 (a Macrumors Newbie)

I can understand all those positive reactions about the price drop, but I feel myself f**ked for 100% with it. I've ordered my system end of June 2004.
A G5 dual 2.5/4Gb Ram/2x250Gb HD/2x30" displays.
I got my full order in November and now not even two month after I got my dream set-up they decide to lower the price of those expensive displays !!!! If I knew this before this would save me around 2.000€.
So thank you very much Steve !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never gonna order the new top products right away. It's better to wait half a year/ a year. It's saves you a lot of money. :confused: :( :(

Look on the bright side, you have had almost two months to enjoy that awesome setup. I'm sure that it has given you hours of pleasure. Sadly in life there are always price decreases and something better coming along.
 
wdlove said:
Look on the bright side, you have had almost two months to enjoy that awesome setup. I'm sure that it has given you hours of pleasure. Sadly in life there are always price decreases and something better coming along.

yea, damned right. I bought my dream PC... a 286 @ 16Mhz, 640KB with 40Meg hard disc, I paid around (Pounds) #399 Over Ten years ago...

... I'm so gutted, because these days they are almost giving them away if they don't get thrown away. Damned price drops!

:D
 
oingoboingo said:
Specifically addressing the issue of efficiently using Expose with an iBook/PowerBook, the first thing any new Apple notebook owner should do is to download and install a utility called Sidetrack. [...] I can get full use of Expose without my finger leaving the trackpad, or reaching for the keyboard with my other hand. I can't use my PowerBook without it :) Highly recommended.

Thanks for the great avice, I will give it to my friends who have iBooks. It's cool when there are people out there that give some useful advice, much unlike some other people that ignored I had a good point just because I used some stupid analogies. You know who you are, but no hard feelings ;) My post was huge and off-topic anyway... :rolleyes:
 
Macrumors said:
Apple lowered the prices on its line of LCD displays today across the board (as rumored), with the 20" model now falling below the $1000 mark. Pricing is as follows:

* $999 - 20" Cinema, 1680 x 1050 optimal resolution, 16.7 million colors, DVI Display Connector, 2 port USB 2.0 Hub, 2 FireWire 400 ports

* $1799 - 23" Cinema HD, 1920 x 1200 optimal resolution, 16.7 million colors, DVI Display Connector, 2 port USB 2.0 Hub, 2 FireWire 400 ports

* $2999 - 30" Cinema HD, 2560 x 1600 optimal resolution, 16.7 million colors, DVI Display Connector, 2 port USB 2.0 Hub, 2 FireWire 400 ports

Wow they went from insanely overpriced to way overpriced…. Wow I’m impressed…
 
Stella said:
yea, damned right. I bought my dream PC... a 286 @ 16Mhz, 640KB with 40Meg hard disc, I paid around (Pounds) #399 Over Ten years ago...
Yep, it is surprising how much prices have dropped.

I had a boss purchase a 386OD chip (33 Mhz) for $795. Gave him about a 10-20% improvement over his 386 16Mhz system.

And 32MB DIMMS were $3,200. Now you can get used ones for $5-8.

One thing for sure, computers and most electronic equipment for that matter are not investments. Er., well, unless you enjoy loosing money! :eek:

Sushi
 
lalcan said:
So a 17 " would cost what, like $699 ? it would be too expensive for the miniMac, i'd rather take a 15 " at $499...

My two cents! :)

Well id like to see a wireless 10-12" touchscreen!

just my 2 cents
 
Thresher said:
My point exactly. Just because they slapped an Apple logo on it doesn't make it the best, not by a long shot.

I would love to have an ACD, they are beautiful to look at both in use and as a fixture, but for less money, there are monitors out there that display just as well (or better).

I like apple very much but some of their thing's espessially displays are so incredible expensive and I can get something good with DVI for 1/3 of the price :eek: well the future looks better
 
sushi said:
Yep, it is surprising how much prices have dropped.

I had a boss purchase a 386OD chip (33 Mhz) for $795. Gave him about a 10-20% improvement over his 386 16Mhz system.

And 32MB DIMMS were $3,200. Now you can get used ones for $5-8.

One thing for sure, computers and most electronic equipment for that matter are not investments. Er., well, unless you enjoy loosing money! :eek:

Sushi

Yes

a computer last for about 4 years max then you have to change to be able to run current software (unless you are a gamer 2 years max)
 
monitor compatibility

Sorry if this is a stupid question (I am a Mac newbie), but I am wondering why so many users here claim they'd rather go with a non Apple LCD monitor (Dell, HP, Samsung have all been cited as examples). I do have a Samsung 173P and while I feel it is a very good fit for my PC (good colors, good contrast, fast enough for video display), I am quite disapointed by the complete lack of compatibility with my brand new dual G5.

Don't get me wrong: I do have a picture (through the DVI-D connector), of course, but without any driver/or software (nor any button, appart from ON/OFF/INPUT-SELECTOR), it is rather impossible for me to calibrate that monitor (i.e. brightness and contrast). It is way to dark for proper video editing for instance, and I didn't find any particular software solution to solve this issue. Is there any? If not, then I am sure gonna get out and purchase a full MAC compatible LCD monitor soon (probably an Apple 23" cinema display)! But as far as I could read correctly, NONE of the aforementionned proposed non Apple solutions (Dell, HP...) are fully Mac compatible. Same thing as with my Samsung monitor: no Mac support means no software, no drivers. Therefore, I guess, there is no way we can calibrate these monitors for proper video display. This is a big NO NO as far as I am concerned, and I can't see why anyone would prefer these cheaper monitors to a properly calibrated Apple display!
 
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