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And that plainly ridiculous statement that the iPhone X uses a s6 generation OLED display.

It is still the s6 generation due to lower resolution and peak brightness. Same generation display that is used in note 5 which is pretty great btw.

Under normal use, display is bright enough. What differentiate them apart is the peak brightness. The extra brightness comes in handy when you are taking photo outside.
 
It is still the s6 generation due to lower resolution and peak brightness. Same generation display that is used in note 5 which is pretty great btw.

Under normal use, display is bright enough. What differentiate them apart is the peak brightness. The extra brightness comes in handy when you are taking photo outside.

Except:

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[doublepost=1509992746][/doublepost]It specifically states that the iPhone X is brighter than the Note 8, even in high ambient light (I.e. the sun)
 
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[doublepost=1509992746][/doublepost]It specifically states that the iPhone X is brighter than the Note 8, even in high ambient light (I.e. the sun)

I am looking at the high ambient light contrast rating:
Much more important is the Contrast Rating, which indicates how easy it is to read the screen under high ambient lighting and depends on both the Maximum Brightness and the Screen Reflectance. The larger the better.

Note 8 : 122-270
S8 : 128-227
IPX: 141-180
 
I am looking at the high ambient light contrast rating:
Much more important is the Contrast Rating, which indicates how easy it is to read the screen under high ambient lighting and depends on both the Maximum Brightness and the Screen Reflectance. The larger the better.

Note 8 : 122-270
S8 : 128-227
IPX: 141-180
Just let it go dude you can disagree with displaymate if you want but the X has the objectively better screen when it comes to actual measurements. I understand this sucks for you because you have been constantly looking for reasons to crap on the X but seriously just stop.
 
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I am looking at the high ambient light contrast rating:
Much more important is the Contrast Rating, which indicates how easy it is to read the screen under high ambient lighting and depends on both the Maximum Brightness and the Screen Reflectance. The larger the better.

Note 8 : 122-270
S8 : 128-227
IPX: 141-180


it's the same problem as with the 1,240 cd/m2 number. you only reach the highest number with 1% Average Picture Level. which is basically never.

the X is much more consistent with its brightness levels, which will also work better in sunlight.
 
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I found the review a bit lacking. I would like to see tests on screen uniformity, both color and brightness, panel variation, say between 3-5 different retail units since Apple is known for being inconsistent, PWM behavior and frequency throughout the entire brightness range, tests for ghosting, blur and other artifacts etc. These are things I look for in monitor reviews, so I’d love to see that in a smartphone panel review as well.

“At any level of brightness, modulation with a frequency of approximately 60 or 240 Hz is present.”

https://translate.googleusercontent...x.html&usg=ALkJrhgE-BSgBDhYdneV5qZKMZi0Q1SYvg
 
It is still the s6 generation due to lower resolution and peak brightness. Same generation display that is used in note 5 which is pretty great btw.

Under normal use, display is bright enough. What differentiate them apart is the peak brightness. The extra brightness comes in handy when you are taking photo outside.

So your still claiming the iPhone X is using the s6 oled display.

Wow. No words.
 
Compare both iPhone X tables and Note 8 tables side to side...note 8 clearly wins in most departments. Both even say A + ratings.......Note 8 still wins for me. Apple's payola goes a long way. Failing to ignore resolution, peak brightness outdoor, complete customization, more color modes, and wider color gamuts. I give them overall accuracy but some of this was completely bias.

The Galaxy Note8 has the following enhanced state-of-the-art display performance functions
I wonder how they can talk and measure note8 wide color modes, if Android does not support color management! It shoots srgb jpgs and if you load a dci-p3 pic, no built in app will be able to display it correctly. All Samsung display mode except basic (srgb emulation), produce wrong colors when viewing srgb pics, and srgb is all Android understands.
Curved display is a marketing gimmick with zero real usefulness, it suffers from color distortion snd additional reflections at the edges.
 
I wonder how they can talk and measure note8 wide color modes, if Android does not support color management! It shoots srgb jpgs and if you load a dci-p3 pic, no built in app will be able to display it correctly. All Samsung display mode except basic (srgb emulation), produce wrong colors when viewing srgb pics, and srgb is all Android understands.
Curved display is a marketing gimmick with zero real usefulness, it suffers from color distortion snd additional reflections at the edges.

New AMOLED Cinema Screen Mode with a Very Accurate Standard DCI-P3 Color Gamut

The Galaxy Note8 has the newest Standard Wide Color Gamut called DCI-P3 for Digital Cinema Initiative, which is being used for 4K Ultra HD TVs and in Digital Cinema for the movie industry. So the Galaxy Note8 can display the latest high-end 4K video content. The DCI-P3 Gamut is 26 percent larger than the Rec.709 Gamut used in 2K Full HD TVs, both are compared in this accurately colorized Figure. The larger DCI-P3 Color Gamut and wider range of more saturated colors are also useful in many advanced imaging applications, including HDR High Dynamic Range (below).


The measured Color Gamut of the AMOLED Cinema screen mode is a very accurate 104 percent of the Standard DCI-P3 Color Gamut, and the measured Absolute Color Accuracy is a very accurate 3.4 JNCD, which is very likely considerably better than your living room 4K Ultra HD TV. The Galaxy Note8 is one of the first displays to reach full 100% of the DCI-P3 as the result of using a new high saturation “Deep Red” OLED. See the Color Accuracy section and the detailed Color Accuracy Plots for the measurements and details. Select the AMOLED Cinema screen mode using Display Settings – it is not the default screen mode for the Galaxy Note8.

AMOLED Photo Screen Mode with a Very Accurate Standard Adobe RGB Color Gamut

Most high-end digital cameras have an option to use the Adobe RGB Color Gamut, which is 17 percent larger than the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut used in consumer cameras. The AMOLED Photo screen mode on the Galaxy Note8 provides a very accurate Color and White Point calibration to the Adobe RGB standard, which is rarely available in consumers displays, and is very useful for high-end digital photography and other advanced imaging applications.


The measured Color Gamut of the AMOLED Photo screen mode is a very accurate 100 percent of the Standard Adobe RGB Color Gamut, and the measured Absolute Color Accuracy is a very accurate 3.3 JNCD. See the Color Accuracy section and the detailed Color Accuracy Plots for the measurements and details. Select the AMOLED Photo screen mode using Display Settings – it is not the default screen mode for the Galaxy Note8.

· Basic Screen Mode with a Very Accurate Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut

The Basic screen mode provides a very accurate Color and White Point calibration for the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut that is used to produce most current consumer content for digital cameras, TVs, the internet, and computers, including photos, videos, and movies. The measured Color Gamut of the Basic screen mode is a very accurate 106 percent of the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut, and the measured Absolute Color Accuracy is a very accurate 3.1 JNCD, which is very likely considerably better than your living room HDTV and also your laptop and computer monitor.


Use the Basic screen mode for the best color and image accuracy for most current consumer content, which is especially important when viewing photos from family and friends (because you often know exactly what they actually should look like), for some TV shows, movies, and sporting events with image content and colors that you are familiar with, and also for viewing online merchandise, so you have a very good idea of exactly what colors you are buying and are less likely to return them. See the Color Accuracy section and the detailed Color Accuracy Plots for the measurements and details. Select the Basic screen mode using Display Settings – it is not the default screen mode for the Galaxy Note8.

Adaptive Display Screen Mode with the Largest Color Gamut

The Adaptive Display screen mode provides real-time Adaptive processing that can dynamically adjust images and videos. For some applications it will vary the White Point, Color Gamut, and Color Saturation based on the image content and the color of the surrounding ambient lighting measured by the Ambient Light Sensor (which measures color in addition to brightness).


The Adaptive Display screen mode also provides significantly higher Color Saturation, with a large 141 percent of the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut and 112 percent of the Standard DCI-P3 Color Gamut, the highest that we have ever measured for Smartphones and Tablets (tied with the Galaxy S8), and the result of a new high saturation “Deep Red” OLED in the Galaxy Note8. Some people like the more saturated and Vivid Colors, plus it is useful for special applications, and especially when using the Galaxy Note8 in medium to high levels of Ambient Light, because it offsets some of the reflected light glare that washes out the on-screen image colors. We examine the change in the Color Gamut with Ambient Light below. See the Color Accuracy section for the measurements and details. Select the Adaptive Display screen mode using Display Settings – it is the factory default screen mode for the Galaxy Note8

So for the purposes of what each mode does, Samsung does a great job at it and for farther proof...go read the displaymate review. Samsung did everything possible to color manage those modes and did a great job at it even without having Android Oreo. And not everyone can tell one color from another ....you must think you are the color management genius. Enjoy your yellow iphone display and bluish tints, and non-uniformity while I enjoy my beautiful and large Note 8 screen.

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note8_ShootOut_100.htm
 
I read the review and I am writing this on Note8 :)
So stop quoting from the review, and give me a couple of real world scenarios how I can view wide color content on my Note8. Suppose, I get a jpeg from iphone shot in DCI-P3. How do I view it? Suppose I export some adobe rgb pics from lightroom, and how do I view them on Note8?
Note 8 still shoots pics and videos in srgb. So, if I enable any other display mode than "basic" they will be oversaturated, since built in Gallery app is not color managed.
Until you prove that we can use wide gamut in real life on Note8, and not only read reviews about it, I'd say we are beeing cheated by Samsung.

So for the purposes of what each mode does, Samsung does a great job at it and for farther proof...go read the displaymate review. Samsung did everything possible to color manage those modes and did a great job at it even without having Android Oreo. And not everyone can tell one color from another ....you must think you are the color management genius. Enjoy your yellow iphone
 
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iPhone X has one of the best display's Apple has every created. Really love the color accuracy. Feels more natural
 
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iPhone X has one of the best display's Apple has every created. Really love the color accuracy. Feels more natural
Except that Apple did not create it. It merely calibrated the display created by Samsung
 
Except that Apple did not create it. It merely calibrated the display created by Samsung

And your point is?

iPhone X still has a better display this time around.

HAHA! I love it, Samsung fandroids agree and trust DisplayMate when it’s in their favor but as soon as DisplayMate says the X has the better display they shun DisplayMate and claim that Apple paid them off. Next year when the S9 and Note 9 is released and DisplayMate says that has the best display they will quickly hail DisplayMate and then when the next iPhone comes out and beats the Samsung again they will shun DisplayMate.

Lol! You Samsung fandroids! You make me LOL!
 
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And your point is?
Lol! You Samsung fandroids! You make me LOL!
My point is that you don't create a new display by color calibrating one that was developed and created by another manufacturer. Just call things their names: iphone display is the best this time because it was created by Samsung.
 
My point is that you don't create a new display by color calibrating one that was developed and created by another manufacturer. Just call things their names: iphone display is the best this time because it was created by Samsung.

I see what you’re saying but I honestly don’t care who manufactures the display. Whether it’s Apple, Samsung or LG. The fact remains that this time around the iPhone X has beat the Samsung S8 and Note 8 in display. That’s all that really matters here. The fandroids just can’t stand the fact that the X has come out on top and they are defending their precious phones by shunning DisplayMate until next year when DisplayMate is in their favor and then they will jump and hail DisplayMate’s review. Hysterical!
 
Except that Apple did not create it. It merely calibrated the display created by Samsung

You must be new here. The panel is an Apple design that Samsung fabricates.

It is not an off the shelf part pulled from Samsung’s inventory.

We’ve already moved beyond your incorrect assumption. Apple has already stated such. The sub pixel arrangement also differs from anything Samsung has in their products. Let’s not return to regurgitating falsehoods.
 
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You must be new here. The panel is an Apple design that Samsung fabricates.

It is not an off the shelf part pulled from Samsung’s inventory.

We’ve already moved past your incorrect assumption. Apple has already stated such. The sub pixel arrangement also differs from anything Samsung has in their products. Let’s not return to regurgitating falsehoods.
You must be an old-timer here, so please bring up proof links on sub-pixel arrangement, and on your statement that iphone x display is unlike anything produced by Samsung before? ;)
 
You must be an old-timer here, so please bring up proof links on sub-pixel arrangement, and on your statement that iphone x display is unlike anything produced by Samsung before? ;)

It's an Apple design Samsung fabricates for Apple.

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2017/11/02/iphone-x-oled-pixel-layout/

However, Samsung manufactures them based on Apple’s design and exacting requirements, they’re not off-the-shelf parts

And another

http://mashable.com/2017/10/31/how-apple-built-the-iphone-x/#W4c7Z.XtnSqw

Apple had been working on OLED for years, but knew that they couldn’t use off-the-shelf OLED technology for the iPhone X. “In order to enable the edge-to-edge design we wanted, it could not be a typical OLED, had to be a flexible OLED to be able to go top to bottom and side-to-side,” said Riccio.

They also had to work through some of the challenges of existing OLED technology including color accuracy, off-axis view, and burn in.

Apple confirmed that the iPhone X does use a Samsung OLED display, but it’s not an off-the-shelf component. They worked with Samsung to create bespoke technology and then, Federighi told us, did a lot of low-level software work to overcome OLED’s inherent drawbacks.

And another

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17...w-apples-face-id-vision-for-the-future-of-ios

Reporting for TechCrunch after a briefing with Apple executives, Matthew Panzarino noted that the new iPhone X is not using a standard Galaxy panel or an "off the shelf" display component design Samsung offers to other firms.


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Are you kidding me? The first link plainly states that it is a trademark samsung pixel layout called pentile, with diamond pixels. Nothing Apple there. Of course they are not using an off the shelf component, they added a notch! Oh, and they did a lot of low level software job! (What I called calibration, since it does not touch hardware).
[doublepost=1510830244][/doublepost]By the way Note 8 screen has higher peak brightness (over 1000 cd) and it has "always on display" option, both of which are lacking from iphone.
 
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My point is that you don't create a new display by color calibrating one that was developed and created by another manufacturer. Just call things their names: iphone display is the best this time because it was created by Samsung.
it was designed and therefore created by apple... manufactured by samsung. just like the A11 is an apple creation but TSMC manufacturs them.
 
it was designed and therefore created by apple... manufactured by samsung. just like the A11 is an apple creation but TSMC manufacturs them.
No you are wrong: while the A11chip was indeed designed by Apple, the Amoled display technology is 100% Samsung creation
 
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