DisplayMate - iPhone X OLED Display Technology Shoot-Out

[Cryates]

By the way Note 8 screen has higher peak brightness (over 1000 cd)

Yeah, if you did some reading you’d know that 1000+ nit brightness is Samsung greatly stretching reality. That’s for only a very small portion of the display being lit. When the entire display is lit, per the display mate review, it can’t even crack 500 nits.

The iPhone X has a record high Full Screen Brightness for OLED Smartphones of 634 nits, which improves screen visibility in high Ambient Light. The Samsung Galaxy Note8 can produce up to 1,240 nits, but only for small portions of the screen area (Low Average Picture Levels) – for Full Screen Brightness the Note8 can produce up to 423 nits with Manual Brightness and 560 nits with Automatic Brightness only in High Ambient Light. For small portions of the screen area the iPhone X can produce up to 809 nits (Low Average Picture Levels). On its Home Screen the iPhone X produces an impressively bright 726 nits. See the Screen Brightness section for the measurements and details.

http://www.displaymate.com/iPhoneX_ShootOut_1a.htm
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No you are wrong: while the A11chip was indeed designed by Apple, the Amoled display technology is 100% Samsung creation

The AMOLED technology is Samsung technology, sure. But take your blinders off - THIS OLED panel, the one in the iPhone X, was designed and calibrated by Apple, with only the manufacturing being done by Samsung.

 

[BvizioN]

Looks like Apple’s payroll department has been busy this year.

Definitely. Whenever you see a positive article about an Apple product, it is the Apple Payroll.
And whenever you see a negative article, it must be the truth. It's just so classic, lol.
Btw, do you guys even realise the complexity of a company like Apple being caught doing stuff like this? Like Samsung was caught paying shills to say write nasty things about iPhone? Can you even imagine the media storm that would occur?

 

[Technarchy]

Are you kidding me? The first link plainly states that it is a trademark samsung pixel layout called pentile, with diamond pixels. Nothing Apple there. Of course they are not using an off the shelf component, they added a notch! Oh, and they did a lot of low level software job! (What I called calibration, since it does not touch hardware).
[doublepost=1510830244][/doublepost]By the way Note 8 screen has higher peak brightness (over 1000 cd) and it has "always on display" option, both of which are lacking from iphone.

What youre saying is the equivalent of “The A11 is not an Apple design because it has ARM patents and is manufacturing by TSMC.l

Also, you might want to recheck your sources.

“The folks at DisplayMate posted the results of testing the Apple iPhone X and judged it to be the best smartphone display currently available. ... Highest full screen brightness for OLED smartphones (634 nits) Highest full screen contrast rating in ambient light (141)Nov 6, 2017”

 

[zhandri]

What youre saying is the equivalent of “The A11 is not an Apple design because it has ARM patents and is manufacturing by TSMC.l

Also, you might want to recheck your sources.

“The folks at DisplayMate posted the results of testing the Apple iPhone X and judged it to be the best smartphone display currently available. ... Highest full screen brightness for OLED smartphones (634 nits) Highest full screen contrast rating in ambient light (141)Nov 6, 2017”

but but but muuuuh screen gets up to 1200 nits when only 1% is white and the rest is black!!!

 

[jamesrick80]

I read the review and I am writing this on Note8
So stop quoting from the review, and give me a couple of real world scenarios how I can view wide color content on my Note8. Suppose, I get a jpeg from iphone shot in DCI-P3. How do I view it? Suppose I export some adobe rgb pics from lightroom, and how do I view them on Note8?
Note 8 still shoots pics and videos in srgb. So, if I enable any other display mode than "basic" they will be oversaturated, since built in Gallery app is not color managed.
Until you prove that we can use wide gamut in real life on Note8, and not only read reviews about it, I'd say we are beeing cheated by Samsung.

Who cares...you are shooting pics on one of the best cameras available and can easily use raw mode and transfer them to a PC for editing...the note 8 does an amazing job at this no matter what mode you want to use. And I can't say enough amazing words about the two ambient light sensors on the note 8, this is why the brightness is good in most situations. It doesn't need to be a thousand nits to be the brightest display. It is more consistent with it's brightness than a iPhone X which dims down more often than necessary based on my girlfriend's iPhone X. That's why some people believe the iPhone X appears dim at times.

IMO Note 8 is still the overall best display based on sharpness, 3K resoluton, size, screen real estate, ppi, customization, vividness, less color shift, real full screen mode without the notch and consistent and necessary brightness in Auto brightness adaptive mode. I no longer care about displaymate but what looks good to my eyes, it's everyone's choice for what display works for them. Also IMO the Moto z2 force looks better than the iPhone X display too, my secondary device.......But that's me.

Most natural color screens look washed out in my opinion on phones and are just not interesting. I choose adaptive mode the majority of the time and cinema for movies only.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

Who cares...you are shooting pics on one of the best cameras available and can easily use raw mode and transfer them to a PC for editing...the note 8 does an amazing job at this no matter what mode you want to use. And I can't say enough amazing words about the two ambient light sensors on the note 8, this is why the brightness is good in most situations. It doesn't need to be a thousand nits to be the brightest display. It is more consistent with it's brightness than a iPhone X which dims down more often than necessary based on my girlfriend's iPhone X. That's why some people believe the iPhone X appears dim at times.

IMO Note 8 is still the overall best display based on sharpness, 3K resoluton, size, screen real estate, ppi, customization, vividness, less color shift, real full screen mode without the notch and consistent and necessary brightness in Auto brightness adaptive mode. I no longer care about displaymate but what looks good to my eyes, it's everyone's choice for what display works for them. Also IMO the Moto z2 force looks better than the iPhone X display too, my secondary device.......But that's me.

Most natural color screens look washed out in my opinion on phones and are just not interesting. I choose adaptive mode the majority of the time and cinema for movies only.

Well it's jamesrick80's word vs. a person who has a Ph.D and does this for a living and has an impressive resume to back him up.

I no longer care about displaymate

Goes to show that you only listen to others that sing the same note (hah) in your echo chamber. You used to always cite DisplayMate and depended on them heavily as a source. But now that they don't align with your biased agenda, to hell with them? Wow. Not a good look...

 

[DNichter]

I see it's very hard for X doubters to let this one go. Grasping at straws, clearly.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

I see it's very hard for X doubters to let this one go. Grasping at straws, clearly.

Indeed. The iPhone X has a handful of "flaws" but the display quality ain't one of them.

 

[DieterV]

This jamesrick dude has got some serious issues with apple, that’s for sure. In other discussions he uses DisplayMate as a source for his arguements that the note has the best display. Now that the same people say the iPhone has the best screen it suddenly isn’t a credible source anymore.

 

[mib1800]

Well it's jamesrick80's word vs. a person who has a Ph.D and does this for a living and has an impressive resume to back him up.


Goes to show that you only listen to others that sing the same note (hah) in your echo chamber. You used to always cite DisplayMate and depended on them heavily as a source. But now that they don't align with your biased agenda, to hell with them? Wow. Not a good look...

The Ph.D gave S8, note8, ipx the "best display" and A+ rating. What are we arguing here? They are all best display in their own way.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

The Ph.D gave S8, note8, ipx the "best display" and A+ rating. What are we arguing here? They are all best display in their own way.

It really doesn't matter - both phones have great-looking displays, and both displays are made by Samsung anyway.

 

[DNichter]

The Ph.D gave S8, note8, ipx the "best display" and A+ rating. What are we arguing here? They are all best display in their own way.

It's not really an argument, it's more just pointing out the obvious to those who have hated on the X, Apple displays, etc. constantly saying that this display can't be better than anything on the Android side. Turns out they were wrong.
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It really doesn't matter - both phones have great-looking displays, and both displays are made by Samsung anyway.

Yes, Samsung gets paid either way, but it is somewhat telling that when Apple gets involved, their OLED gets even better. Many were doubting whether or not Apple could really come in and perfect this technology even further.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

It's not really an argument, it's more just pointing out the obvious to those who have hated on the X, Apple displays, etc. constantly saying that this display can't be better than anything on the Android side. Turns out they were wrong.
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Yes, Samsung gets paid either way, but it is somewhat telling that when Apple gets involved, their OLED gets even better. Many were doubting whether or not Apple could really come in and perfect this technology even further.

That's not really a completely conclusive assessment. The iPhone X OLED is technically "newer" than the Note 8's, as it is the newest phone out there to use Samsung's OLED technology. So you could be right and Apple improved upon it, or it could just be that Samsung had a few more months to perfect their OLED technology even further for Apple.

 

[DNichter]

That's not really a completely conclusive assessment. The iPhone X OLED is technically "newer" than the Note 8's, as it is the newest phone out there to use Samsung's OLED technology. So you could be right and Apple improved upon it, or it could just be that Samsung had a few more months to perfect their OLED technology even further for Apple.

Well it was designed and calibrated by Apple, manufactured by Samsung. I think it will just be one of those things that's always different between their flagships. Apple tends to go more realistic with their colors and Samsung goes for over saturated. When it comes to scoring though, obviously more realistic will win (although some like the Samsung ones, they do look VERY nice).

 

[DieterV]

Well it was designed and calibrated by Apple, manufactured by Samsung. I think it will just be one of those things that's always different between their flagships. Apple tends to go more realistic with their colors and Samsung goes for over saturated. When it comes to scoring though, obviously more realistic will win (although some like the Samsung ones, they do look VERY nice).

It’s like a pair of beats headphone vs a pair of sennheisers. Some people like the added bass beats give to the music. But it is not what the artist intended (despite what dr Dre says). Some people want to hear what the artist intended to hear. The same goes for displays. Some people like the oversaturated colors of the note. Some people love accurate colors. Me... I like to hear sounds and look at movies,pictures as it was intended.

 

[sunlit]

I rechecked my sources:

First we need to congratulate Samsung Display for developing and manufacturing the outstanding OLED display hardware in the iPhone X.

· But what makes the iPhone X the Best Smartphone Display is the impressive Precision Display Calibration that Apple developed that transforms the OLED hardware into a superbly accurate, high performance, and gorgeous display!!
(From displaymate review

Also, you might recheck your sources

 

[DNichter]

It’s like a pair of beats headphone vs a pair of sennheisers. Some people like the added bass beats give to the music. But it is not what the artist intended (despite what dr Dre says). Some people want to hear what the artist intended to hear. The same goes for displays. Some people like the oversaturated colors of the note. Some people love accurate colors. Me... I like to hear sounds and look at movies,pictures as it was intended.

Yup, very good comparison actually. And I agree.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

Well it was designed and calibrated by Apple, manufactured by Samsung. I think it will just be one of those things that's always different between their flagships. Apple tends to go more realistic with their colors and Samsung goes for over saturated. When it comes to scoring though, obviously more realistic will win (although some like the Samsung ones, they do look VERY nice).

Calibrated, yes. Designed, no. PenTile has been around for a long time, and, aside from calibration and odd shape, the X's display is the same design as Samsung's typical OLED panel.

 

[DNichter]

Calibrated, yes. Designed, no. PenTile has been around for a long time, and, aside from calibration and odd shape, the X's display is the same design as Samsung's typical OLED panel.

I'll trust you on that one. Either way, happy to have the best screen on my iPhone X and I am sure Apple will continue to improve on the technology every year until they can replace it with micro-LED.

 

[mib1800]

I think a lot of people would not be so hung up on color accuracy. But how a screen vow them with vivid color

A lot of people would agree with what this guy said about ipx, pixels and note8 display.

 

[DieterV]

I think a lot of people would not be so hung up on color accuracy. But how a screen vow them with vivid color

A lot of people would agree with what this guy said about ipx, pixels and note8 display.

Like I said, it is personal preference. I don’t like a fake image. Just like I don’t like fake bass on my headphones. I want my media just like the creator intended it to hear or look. The same goes with the camera. I like my picture to look true to life. Others like Samsung and that fake oversaturated picture.