Perhaps a lot of the people that moan about the notch don't own an iPhone X because they don't like the notch.
Like me.
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Perhaps a lot of the people that moan about the notch don't own an iPhone X because they don't like the notch.
Like me.
Based on prior posts, you don’t like iOS, sold your iPhone and you wouldn’t get another until iOS substantially changes. So you don’t like the notch, but you wouldn’t get an iPhone anyway.
Samsung has been the leader in this metric for at least the last couple of years. No surprise here. Their displays are gorgeous.
If I'm honest with myself, the galaxy line looks. Iced (from the front), and has for the last year or two, than any iPhone. It's a trade off I'd be willing to makenif I was able to get a stock android version.
The best upgrade in the iPhone X is its display, in my eyes. Everything else is just minor quality of life changes. It's why I have a live/hate relationship with the thing. I spent an additional $300 for a much nicer display.
If I'm honest with myself, the galaxy line looks. Iced (from the front), and has for the last year or two, than any iPhone. It's a trade off I'd be willing to makenif I was able to get a stock android version.
The best upgrade in the iPhone X is its display, in my eyes. Everything else is just minor quality of life changes. It's why I have a live/hate relationship with the thing. I spent an additional $300 for a much nicer display.
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Because a bezel does not obscure any screen, iPhone X or prior. That's like saying part of the screen is underneath the phone's hardware and thus invisible... no.
iPhone X has the allusion of the notch obscuring the screen owing to the way Apple chooses to render the display.
If you want to argue that the iPhone X has a better screen-to-body ratio (or allows more info within its viewport) then fine, but less obscuring ... er, no.
I've had a note 8 for the last 2 months and the fingerprint scanner works fine for me. After all I do have man size hands...
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A notch doesn't obscure the screen, because the screen is AROUND the notch. People assume the screen has to be rectangular. There is no screen beneath the notch - so there's no obscuring.
At the same time, extending the screen around the notch provides additional screen space.
So, the screen is not obscured because there is no screen under the notch. However, the screen area is larger, due to the fact that it exists around the notch too.
This is clearly a psychological issue. And a matter of aesthetics. I think the extended screen gives iPhone X a unique look. I can't argue with anyone who doesn't like how this looks, because that's a matter of taste. But it's not obscuring anything, and the screen area is bigger.
Certainly a screen with a notch has more usable area than a screen with a bezel that is the same height as the notch. I think what people who don't like about the notch are trying to say is that you could have a shorter bezel so that you have the same amount of screen, the same screen/body ratio, but with none of that screen in the bunny ears. Whether you could do that with Apple's front camera setup, I don't know. Maybe it does have to be clustered in such a way that it could not be fit into a narrower bezel.
I personally prefer a bezel. I also don't think the notch is a huge deal. I also prefer the flexibility of a rectangular screen to the special uses that the rabbit ears could have.
Not sure whether you're agreeing with or refuting what I stated.
I pointed out that there is no obscuring on any iPhone, although iPhone X has the "illusion of notch obscuring" or better stated "display obscuring" owing to way Apple does the display rendering (especially for movies in full screen mode) and going as far to advise developers to place readable contents inside safe areas. Regardless of person's like/dislike for the notch, I was objecting to the hollow statement "Why is it so hard to figure out a bezel obscures more not less?".
EDIT: spelling typo illusion
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Problem with that is, the notch isn't actually
Well the guy was measuring 2% difference in screen estate so...
In terms of usage, again I prefer the two ears, it gives hot spot swipe-able areas.
I honestly think the notch looks better then the double ledge. Like what would you rather apple do? The phone sticks out from its competitors thats all this is about, u cant make a phone that looks like everything else, thats horrible marketing.
Not surprising that Samsung, the manufacturer of the OLED screens, would use the better technology for its own phone. Hopefully Apple will do its own research on OLEDs and digital cameras and create the next generation of screen and imaging technology. If they design and manufacture the most important components of their phones, they can reap the benefits of unique, trend-setting technologies. It is hard to compete in a commodifying world.
The S9 looks amazing. Apple will need a redesign for the next one, just does not look right.
1. Apple will do a slight redesign in 2019. and not sooner.
2. Apple doesn’t *need* to do a redesign since X will sell a lot more than S9.
3. Matter of taste. To me (and to a lot of people), X looks better than S9. S9 looks nice, though.
4. If you think S9 looks amazing, get one instead of an iPhone.
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That’s not how it works. Samsung provides the factories and that’s it. They are not designing the iPhone screens and, therefore, they are not “choosing” worse or better technology for it. Apple gives them the design and they do what Apple asked them to do (and they want to do the best job they can, so that Apple would come to them next year too - Samsung *wants* Apple to be happy). If the S9 has a better screen, it’s because Samsung designed it better. Of course, it’s all about designing for scale and price. Next year, Apple will make a better one, than Samsung will design an even better one, etc. Samsung invested a lot into their factories to be able to offer the best product to their customers. Apple is their customer too. In fact, they probably earn more from Apple than from selling the S9.
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Hardly a surprise. I predict that the note 9 will take the crown next and then after that the successor to the iPhone X.
How do the bezels obscure the screen when not one part of a video or image is blocked? You can’t say that for the notch. If you go full screen on a photo you take or YouTube video, the notch does obscure.
Some appologist zealots claim that the notch enlarged screens - as they'd never seen a bigger screen before the notch appeared.
The Cookette damage to the free mind is epic.
We're getting further and further off on your tangent, but for the sake of fun, I'll respond before getting to the actually relevant part. Two things:
1) You're stretching hard on the notch. Most posts are not about the "behavior." Sure, there is some discussion about what it does in landscape mode (e.g., when watching videos) and whether it results in part of an image being cropped or not, but most posts are simply about whether people mind its very existence. You and others make the claim--sometimes explicitly, sometimes implicitly--that nearly anyone who has used the iPhone X for an extended period of time isn't bothered by and/or barely notices the notch. This claim lacks evidentiary support. I'm not saying it's incorrect, but rather that it simply lacks facts to back it up.
2) I read his comment along the same lines as many of the other more elitist ones that have been made on here repeatedly: "people complain about the notch because they can't afford an iPhone X." This claim has even less supporting evidence, and it's incredibly obnoxious too.
But regardless of whether I'm right or not in #2, and regardless of the verdict in #1, my original point still stands.
And that makes it all the more amusing that you're calling me pedantic when you clearly understood my first post to mean "many people" don't buy stuff they've decided they don't like, but decided to reply with a tangent that has nothing to do with that point, and you're now bent out of shape that I pointed that out. Since your story about your kids and vegetables suggests you like metaphors, I'll indulge you with one now:
Brian Y: People who complain about oranges don't buy them.
Me: Of course people who complain about oranges don't buy them. Why would you buy something you don't like?
You: You missed the point. People can try oranges cheaply!
If you can't see that your line of commentary was a non-sequitur to that which preceded it...well, I can't help you.
Once again, that's not what a straw man is.
The more you continue to twist my words, the funnier this gets. At no point did I say "All people who don't buy iPhone Xs considered the pros and cons of the device but decided that the notch is a deal-breaker for them." Or anything close to that.
Moreover, you even have the logic completely backwards. I never weighed in, period, on a hypothesis for why all or even most people don't own iPhone Xs. Nothing in what I said is mutually exclusive with people hating Apple, or any other reason for not buying an iPhone X. I simply said it's common sense that [some] people who have decided they strongly dislike a particular "feature" wouldn't buy the device.
Man, I sure wish people would read and then think before hitting the "Post Reply" button.
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Does anybody give a toss about any of this anymore? Diminishing returns all round, comes down to your choice of software at this point really.