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To be fair, they used this exact phrase to describe the iPhone X.

Which begs the question how much closer to perfect can "visually indistinguishable from perfect" be?
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Look how stupid the S9 looks next to the iPhone X with those disgusting bezels.
iPhone X has overall bigger bezels, it's far from being bezel-less and in fact it has huge bezels, despite the notch.
 
Have you two met? I think you two should meet.

So they took the display that Apple developed and made it better. The cycle continues.
Nichter. Glideslope.

I’m simply saying Samsung may gain some knowledge from Apple’s first OLED Design. I agree that Samsung has the edge in OLED product cycles. Without violating any proprietary Apple OLED design they may have gained an advantage in the S9 display.
Glideslope. Nichter.

If this works out, I am expecting an invite to the wedding.:p:D
 
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Look how stupid the iPhone X looks next to the S9 with that disgusting notch.
The screen-to-body ratio on iPhone X is about 82.9%. The “all-screen” iPhone is 17.1% not-screen. The screen-to-body ratio on Samsung’s Galaxy S9 is 84.2%.
Welcome to the forum. Glad you could join just to complain about the notch. You're the first one to do so. It's about time somebody said something negative about it. :rolleyes:
 
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Look how stupid the iPhone X looks next to the S9 with that disgusting notch.

The S9 looks like it has a bowl haircut. Also, the S9 doesn't need as much space at the top because it doesn't have Apple's infrared sensor tech used for Face ID.
 
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Look how stupid the iPhone X looks next to the S9 with that disgusting notch.

Look at how stupid the Samsung S9 looks next to the iPhone X with it's non rounded display edges.
or
Look at how stupid the Samsung S9 looks next to the iPhone X with it's non ugly back.

See, I can do that too.....:rolleyes:

The screen-to-body ratio on iPhone X is about 82.9%. The “all-screen” iPhone is 17.1% not-screen. The screen-to-body ratio on Samsung’s Galaxy S9 is 84.2%.

Ha, And 5% of that 84.2% is unusable edge display.
 
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The screen-to-body ratio on iPhone X is about 82.9%. The “all-screen” iPhone is 17.1% not-screen. The screen-to-body ratio on Samsung’s Galaxy S9 is 84.2%.

Keep your ~1% screen to body advantage, rear fingerprint scanner, and highly reflective curved screen. I’ll keep my Face ID and flat screen.
 
But the Samsung runs Android, surveillance capitalism's wet dream. You get what you pay for.

Android users will take over the world. Well that’s what conspiracy theorists would have us believe! And talking of unfounded paranoia, my friend reckons that all the letters in this thread are written by the Macrumors staff. If that’s the case was my letter written by them as well? I wouldn’t be surprised if it had been! :cool:
 
I had read that atttributing the quality of the iPhone X display to Samsung was like attributing the quality of the Ax series of processors to Samsung.

The displays were engineered by Apple to be that good.

How much of Samsung shipping a “better” display is due to Apple engineering?

I’m genuinely asking.
 
You are mistaken if you think apple has anything to do with samsung r&d in amoled displays.

They have been perfecting it for the past 10 years.the new gs9 has sub pixel rendering that allows the driver to actually turn on each color sub pixel. That is a first for amoled and the apple screen does NOT use this.

All I know is the display Apple developed last year bested Samsung. Is it that unreasonable to think Samsung took some of whatever they did and applied it to their new display?
 
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No. They don't focus on it. They don't dwell on it. The cameras and sensors had to go somewhere. Everything else is screen. Not hard to comprehend.
They don't focus / dwell on it because they've resigned themselves to it. There's nothing they can do about it so when focus / dwell on it.

Yes, the cameras and sensors had to go somewhere...they went into the notch which is, essentially, a bezel. I see no benefit to the ears so I'm puzzled what has Apple accomplished.
 
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All I know is the display Apple developed last year bested Samsung. Is it that unreasonable to think Samsung took some of whatever they did and applied it to their new display?

I think it would be unreasonable to believe that Samsung was not going to do exactly what you said. I'm sure Apple had this in mind.
 
They don't focus / dwell on it because they've resigned themselves to it. There's nothing they can do about it so when focus / dwell on it.

Yes, the cameras and sensors had to go somewhere...they went into the notch which is, essentially, a bezel. I see no benefit to the ears so I'm puzzled what has Apple accomplished.
It boggles the mind that if a display isn't a perfect rectangle, people lose their freakin' minds. :confused:
 
As a consumer how does this benefit me?

Is that a real question? For one, you don't want to end up in Android hell if you don't tithe. It also goes towards Tim Cook's overdue pay raise for job well done, new mega campus for incubating new innovations, trickling down to foreign workers and the benefits go on.
 
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Android users will take over the world. Well that’s what conspiracy theorists would have us believe! And talking of unfounded paranoia, my friend reckons that all the letters in this thread are written by the Macrumors staff. If that’s the case was my letter written by them as well? I wouldn’t be surprised if it had been! :cool:

Nothing is private anymore. Adobe. Amazon. All of them have had data breaches. No point in whining about privacy....it doesn't exist;)

Give your email address a try....
https://haveibeenpwned.com
 
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Don't care... it comes down to Android vs iOS... I tried the Note 7 (didn't explode), and I can't stand Android. I will stick with iOS, even though it's locked down and not a tweakable as Android...
 
You just made your statement into a straw-man.

You can’t provide rational as to why “any one person would buy a phone with a key feature they didn’t like...they wouldn’t?”. Some maybe all would.

You seem to be confused as to what a "straw man" is.

Regardless, the point--which I'm pretty sure you got but are choosing to ignore because you like following me around here--is that as a general concept, people buy things they like, and people don't buy things they don't like. People who really, really dislike the notch aren't (for the most part) going to buy the iPhone. And that statement was made in response to this comment:

The vast majority of people who moan about the notch are those who don't own one.

Context matters.


Still missing the point. Why complain about something you haven’t tried? You said: “Why would people buy a $1000 product that has a key "feature" they actively dislike?”

How can someone “actively” dislike something they’ve never used? Or complain about how it supposedly works?
No, Dean, you're missing the point. See above.

And to respond to your (irrelevant) tangent for kicks, people are allowed to dislike something they haven't tried or haven't tried extensively. That's their prerogative. You might find that irrational, but guess what? Lots of people do lots of irrational things every single day.

Furthermore, not everyone has the time or the inclination to "try it" for a period of time. And not everyone can take advantage of Apple's liberal return policy; some people may be tied into carrier agreements which often are not nearly as charitable.

But like I said, this discussion is completely irrelevant with respect to my original comment.
 
uh the S9 like the S8 before has no bezels on the longest sides meaning more than 3/4 of the screen is bezel-less. The X has a distinct bezel 100% all the way around the screen. iPhone X bezel-less, fake news indeed.

It's got a massive bezel at the top and bottom though. You've got eyes haven't you?
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I’ll take the bezel over the notch any day.

Good for you man, I wouldn't but horses for courses right? The bezel loses screen size as well as now the status bar has to go below it, where as all that data gets pushed into the ears on the iPhone.

For once Apple went for function over form, it's a great idea.
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So do you think the iPhone 8 looks even worse than the S9 since it has an even larger and “disgusting” bezel than the S9?

The notch is dumb and dumb looking and that’s why Apple will move away from it in the future.

1. It was a joke.

And 2. It is anything other than dumb see above.
 
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