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"already heavy and cumbersome" WTF man? The iPhone 6 was super light and comfortable, unless you're spoiled and you use an iPod Touch or something. What the hell are you talking about?

I'm talking about the 6S+ & the 6+, and have been doing all the way through this thread.
When Samsung and others can make a phone with a bigger display yet a smaller footprint, and when the latest Note 5 is all of those things plus 21g lighter then I'd say that the Apple product is needlessly big. It's bigger in every respect apart from *thin* and nobody cares about thin anymore when it becomes a structural weakness.
 
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Two objects are available. One larger and one smaller. So someone buys the larger version and then complains about the weight?
I agree that it shouldn't be a dealbreaker for someone who really wants the 6S+. I'm merely saying, and arguing, that for an already heavy and cumbersome phone the weight increase is disappointing.

If the 20g increase bothers you, there is a model for you. Only catch is it only has 1GB of RAM. :)
 
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Two objects are available. One larger and one smaller. So someone buys the larger version and then complains about the weight?


If the 20g increase bothers you, there is a model for you. Only catch is it only has 1GB of RAM. :)

Missing the point there old bean.
 
So if a 20g product is re-released as a 40g product then the weight increase will be trivial because 'it's only 20g'?
20g can be substantial despite being a relatively light weight. It's all relative.

Relative in the sense it's imperceptible. If a boulder weighs 20 tons and the next one is 40. It doesn't matter because you can't lift either without machinery and if you use machinery it's imperceptible.
 
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I'm talking about the 6S+ & the 6+, and have been doing all the way through this thread.
When Samsung and others can make a phone with a bigger display yet a smaller footprint, and when the latest Note 5 is all of those things plus 21g lighter then I'd say that the Apple product is needlessly big. It's bigger in every respect apart from *thin* and nobody cares about thin anymore when it becomes a structural weakness.
The Note 5 is probably made from worse materials.
 
The Note 5 is probably made from worse materials.

Lol. Glass and aluminium? Or are you talking about the internals? Apple actually buy internal parts from Samsung you know and things like radio kit etc are pretty standard throughout the industry.
 
Relative in the sense it's imperceptible. If a boulder weighs 20 tons and the next one is 40. It doesn't matter because you can't lift either without machinery and if you use machinery it's imperceptible.

I agree that 20g by itself is a very light weight but the 6S+ is a heavy and unnecessarily large phone compared to others with similar and usually larger displays. Coming from the i5 to the 6+ I was shocked by how heavy it was. Sure I expected it to be bigger and heavier, obviously, but it was the weight that surprised me the most and I still think it's a heavy phone after almost 12 months of ownership. To hear that the 6S+ is even heavier was quite a surprise and a disappointment to be fair. Apple really dropped the ball with the 6+ and 6S+ for a number of reasons. It has been very un-Applelike for them to put so little effort into hiding the size. Other manufacturers manage it so why not the premium design experts?
 
Do they weigh more than last years model?
The iPhone 6s weighs less than three sheets of DIN A4 standard printing paper (each about 5 gramms) more than the iPhone 6. For the iPhone 6s Plus it's four sheets of paper more weight compared to the iPhone 6 Plus. So I don't know why there are people who complain, also with bendgate in mind.
 
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I agree that 20g by itself is a very light weight but the 6S+ is a heavy and unnecessarily large phone compared to others with similar and usually larger displays. Coming from the i5 to the 6+ I was shocked by how heavy it was. Sure I expected it to be bigger and heavier, obviously, but it was the weight that surprised me the most and I still think it's a heavy phone after almost 12 months of ownership. To hear that the 6S+ is even heavier was quite a surprise and a disappointment to be fair. Apple really dropped the ball with the 6+ and 6S+ for a number of reasons. It has been very un-Applelike for them to put so little effort into hiding the size. Other manufacturers manage it so why not the premium design experts?

See I didn't notice the weight difference coming from a 5S to a 6. I assume that it's heavier cause it's bigger but I really didn't pay that much attention to it.
 
Maybe I just come from a time when phones actually weighed a lot so it all seems so trivial to me.

Seriously. I spent many hours in my youth holding handsets like this and talking into them and somehow I survived without broken wrists.

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He actually has as much practical hands-on knowledge as Hawking has! :D
i'm still leaning towards Hawking, mainly because his calculations might be a tad more accurate relatining to a celestial object he helped us to comprehend. He even figured out that black holes will disappear in time due to Hawking radiation.

Anyway, back to that "substantial 12% weight increase".
 
Maybe I just come from a time when phones actually weighed a lot so it all seems so trivial to me.

So do I but thankfully they got tiny and superlight before slowly creeping up in size again. Apple fans seem to be forgetting the incredibly light iPhone 5S they stopped using less than 12 months ago!
 
So do I but thankfully they got tiny and superlight before slowly creeping up in size again. Apple fans seem to be forgetting the incredibly light iPhone 5S they stopped using less than 12 months ago!
Because you need at least some kind of display on your phone. A 4" display is tiny AF. I can barely look at it for more than a minute without my eyes hurting. 4.7" is actually not bad, but the display still has to weigh something. I agree that they could do better, but maybe that's for the iP7.
 
I'm talking about the 6S+ & the 6+, and have been doing all the way through this thread.
When Samsung and others can make a phone with a bigger display yet a smaller footprint, and when the latest Note 5 is all of those things plus 21g lighter then I'd say that the Apple product is needlessly big. It's bigger in every respect apart from *thin* and nobody cares about thin anymore when it becomes a structural weakness.
So how many Note 5 phones have been sold? Vs iPhone 6s & 6s plus phones? Are those people's opinions as valid as sunking101?
 
So how many Note 5 phones have been sold? Vs iPhone 6s & 6s plus phones? Are those people's opinions as valid as sunking101?

So are you disputing that a larger display in a smaller and lighter phone is better?
 
He keeps bringing up the Note 5. Maybe it would be better for him to get that because lighter is better.
For comparison's sake. It's relevant. Whilst Apple are making their phones bigger and heavier, the competition are making theirs smaller and lighter....but with larger displays.
 
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