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I'm almost the exact opposite at this point. When GT5 ships, it will have been more than 6 years from the last game. By taking that long, they are setting the bar VERY high. It will be interesting to see just how fun the game is, because the last few have been progressively less and less fun to me. But, this game is basically the only thing I'm keeping my PS3 around for any more, so we'll see what comes of it.
The more i hear (and see) about gt5 i feel like it is going to be worth the long agonizing wait. Kart racing, track editor, 950+ cars, etc... I should say i'm cautiously optimistic. I feel like GT5 is going to make up for things GT has been missing for years (damage, namely) but if its not done perfectly its going to feel like a slap in the face.
Oh yeah.. I'm cautiously optimistic as well regarding FT 5, but the more I look at the trailers, the better it looks. After six years of waiting, I do hope it's as epic to play as the trailers lead you to believe.
Those things are just speculation. It was announced a month back or so, but it was a Sony Europe exec that said it, not someone from Polyphony, and many people are thinking he was incorrect. I mean, those things would be fun, but we won't know until GamesCom if they are officially in. That is when PD is going to unveil the full feature list, so we'll see.
Damage will be interesting. So far they have been very skimpy on the details as to what the damage will actually be. In those demos at CES earlier this year, they showed the cars getting very little body panel damage, but the parts would eventually fall off. That looked weird. And recent videos and screens show the panels getting more deformation than before, but the panels didn't look to be coming off. It will be interesting to see how they implement it. And with the fact that they've said that only 200 of the 1000 cars will be fully-modeled GT5 spec cars, the rest being up-rezed GT4 cars, those other 800 might not even get damage at all.
Playing the last couple Forzas with damage, I have to say it really isn't a big thing to me. I mean, yes, it does add to the realism, but it is more of just an added feature point to put on the box. Even with the decently high power of the current consoles, geometry deformation is a hard thing to implement. And as I've said for a long time, I want a fun game first, the rest of the stuff is just added bonus. But, if damage is added and doesn't work well, or just looks silly, it can be a big detractor. I hope it works well in GT, because it is a pretty meaningless thing in Forza, to me at least.
Even 200 is ridiculous amount of cars and that's only the new cars, there are 800 old cars. Forza 3 has total of 400 cars IIRC. When Forza 3 came, I remember reading an interview where a worker of Turn 10 Studios said that modeling one car to Forza 3 took about a month for one man to do (IIRC).
I haven't played Forzas that much but have heard a lot good of them but I still prefer Gran Turismo, maybe because I've played it since the first one in late 90's. Already pre-ordered my GT5, can't wait for it
Yea, but doesn't it make you wonder what the hell they've been doing for 6 years? One of the main features that all of these 200 new cars has is a full interior. Now granted, they aren't as minutely detailed, but EVERY one of the cars in Forza 3 has a full interior. I personally think the devs at PD, Kaz specifically, are just too focused on making the "Perfect" game, rather than making a "Very Good" game and getting it out there to the fans.
They are actually over 500 now, when you add in DLC cars that they have added every month from launch last year. The problem with that, just as it will be for GT5 and its 1000 cars, I'm only going to use a handful of them so a huge number like that is filled with a LOT of fluff.
I used to love the GT series. The first one launched on my birthday, and I played the crap out of it. But, as I've said a bunch of times, the series seems to be shifting from an amazing racing game, to somewhat more of an interactive automotive encyclopedia. After GT2, they just became less and less fun for me, and vice-versa, the Forza series has become a fantastic racing game.
The GT series is undoubtedly the better looking game. But to me, looks aren't what make a racing game fun. It is how well it presents the car and track to you, and how well it makes the interaction between those two things feel. The physics and sound, in particular, are just spectacular in Forza 3, in my opinion. You could put me in a car, not tell me what it is, and let me race it, and because of the great way it coveys those things to the driver, I could probably guess the car without much difficulty.
I do have very high hopes for GT5. As I said, it is the sole reason for me keeping my PS3 at this point. But, I'm a huge car fan, and I love racing, so this game will almost certainly be purchased. But I just fear that by taking so long to come out, and setting expectations SO high, it will probably feel underwhelming when it finally arrives. But I echo the sentiment by DoFoT9 earlier....
*Fingers Crossed*
From what i've read, all the cars were built for GT5, not just hi-poly versions of GT4 cars. Which would make sense because adding damage would require completely new models anyway. The 200 premium cars have the tiniest details reproduced. The ~800 arent gimped or anything, the 200 are just that much better. People seem to have inferred that 800 cars will be junk while only 200 of them will actually be HD and stuff, which isnt really what they said.
I agree about damage though, i dont care if its there or not. I very rarely tap another car when racing, so i wont notice if damage exists or not. Realistic damage is near impossible anyway. Simply brushing up against a wall at a low speed can possibly take you out of a race, and most video games show cars crashing into walls at 120+mi/hr and they drive away.
it does look better, but i sure hope that they havent solely focused on graphics alone - as the biggest thing for me is interaction between the game and real world physics (of course). id much rather have the game look worse and handle better. GT3 A-Spec was decent IMO for that, compared to GT4 anyway.
they most certainly have waited a long time - i guess they got lost along the way. i hope they found their tracks again (ignore the pun).
I'm afraid that they have concentrated on details too much and forgotten the most important thing, the actual driving system and gaming experience. I couldn't care less are there 100 or 1000 cars, I end up using few of those anyway. Yeah, it's nice to have them though but I think it's not that important. Graphics are never on my top list, I still play GT 1&2 by time to time because they just rock and there are not too many details, the driving system is just enormous. I find many PS1 games being better than new ones because it's not a competition of graphics and just recycling the same ideas.
If this game fails, it's the end of GT series. This has cost a fortune to make and took over a half decade.
i couldnt agree more with what you just said! what they need to do is spend 5 years on the physics engine - get that PERFECT, then release upgrades with cars whenever they get more. but DONT charge the end customers hehe. it would be good if they would just get the physics fine and worry about graphics later, what ever happened to logical producing
No, the 200 cars they call "Premium" are the only ones fully designed as GT5 version cars. The other 800 or so "Standard" cars are just uprezzed cars from GT4. Case in point, look at the model and textures on this Audi. Not terrible, by any means, but certainly not something I would expect given the development time...
You will notice that in some screens and videos, some cars have dark tinted windows. These cars have no interior view and are just an upscaled version from GT4...
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5247.html
No, the 200 cars they call "Premium" are the only ones fully designed as GT5 version cars. The other 800 or so "Standard" cars are just uprezzed cars from GT4. Case in point, look at the model and textures on this Audi. Not terrible, by any means, but certainly not something I would expect given the development time...
You will notice that in some screens and videos, some cars have dark tinted windows. These cars have no interior view and are just an upscaled version from GT4...
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5247.html
Hmm, that a shame
Although as I said in my previous comment, I couldn't care less about the graphics and I likely won't even see difference between premium and standard car. Those 200 would have been enough for me anyway, there will likely be more cars via DLCs too. They have hopefully spent their time doing something more useful than modeling cars
"The massive lineup of cars from past Gran Turismo games has been beautifully recreated through the latest technology and the Playstation 3’s cutting-edge graphics."No, the 200 cars they call "Premium" are the only ones fully designed as GT5 version cars. The other 800 or so "Standard" cars are just uprezzed cars from GT4. Case in point, look at the model and textures on this Audi. Not terrible, by any means, but certainly not something I would expect given the development time...
You will notice that in some screens and videos, some cars have dark tinted windows. These cars have no interior view and are just an upscaled version from GT4...
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5247.html
Recreated. They didnt just open Maya and add more polys to the mesh, they recreated past cars.
Also, in the videos they show you can actually see outlines of seats and stuff when the sun is behind the cars, so there is some form of interior, just not as detailed as the premium cars. The 800 cars arent going to be junk, and nobody would even think about it if polyphony hadnt mentioned the premium cars, but now it seems like everyone thinks the 800 selection is going to look like gt4, which obviously it isnt judging from the videos.
I agree. I mean, I still play Mario Kart 64 with friends. It looks like crap by today's standards, but no one cares, because the game is just fun. Some people want awesome graphics, to them that makes a game more fun. And that is fine, it just isn't what I want. As you guys were saying, I want fun and exciting racing in my driving games, not flashy looks. If the physics are much improved in GT5 from what they were in GT5Hmm, that a shame
and the "Time Trial Demo" then I will be happy.Yea, the marketing teams can say all they want, but did you look at that screenshot? It doesn't look like they've done hardly anything to the car. The textures alone look really bad.
*edited because you edited your post with more*
Since you were quoting them earlier, here is another quote from the horses mouth...
So yes, they do have some polygons in the interior of the vehicle. They just don't matter.Gran Turismo website said:
*edit 2*
Again, the graphics and stuff are pretty meaningless to me. I'm just hoping to keep people's expectations in check here. This game doesn't have 800 awesome cars, and then 200 EVEN MORE awesome cars. It has 200 that were designed from the ground up for GT5. The others were reworked from older games.
After playing GT PSP I have a feeling this is way the series is going. I hope I'm wrong. If GT5 turns out to be good I'd be very tempted to use it as an excuse to get a 3DTV and racing wheel.
Yep. The recent update to the PS3 firmware added support for 3D games, and there will be another update later this fall, around September, that will enable it for Blu-ray movies.
SICK! im so excited! i hope that my big chunky PS3 is compatible
i wonder what type of 3D it uses, will generic TVs be compatible (etc)
SICK! im so excited! i hope that my big chunky PS3 is compatible
i wonder what type of 3D it uses, will generic TVs be compatible (etc)
It wil be compatible (all PS3's are) but you'll need a special 3DTV. My cousin has a few at his bar, they're outstanding! And I'm hoping he wont mind if one of them goes missing later this year
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It wil be compatible (all PS3's are) but you'll need a special 3DTV. My cousin has a few at his bar, they're outstanding! And I'm hoping he wont mind if one of them goes missing later this year
PARTY AT DAGLESS'S! nah pretty jealous. there are technologies that turn existing 2D TVs into 3D. but i guess sony wont be utilising it
I'm back to being excited about GT5 now Can anyone recommend a decent steering wheel for the PS3 please? I'd rather have a gear stick instead of paddles if possible, and a handbrake would be nice.
Can anyone recommend a decent steering wheel for the PS3 please? I'd rather have a gear stick instead of paddles if possible, and a handbrake would be nice.
I'm back to being excited about GT5 now
anything Logitech
anything Logitech
If you have the cash, I hear the G27 is an awesome racing wheel. Otherwise, I hear the Driving Force GT is pretty good and relatively cheap.