Do Mac users generally go for the PS3?

[NoSmokingBandit]

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Lets remember what started this whole debacle:

There's nothing so special about the PS3 and it's games that made it 100% necessary to put games on BlueRay discs and not on DVDs.

So no, there really is no reason they have to be on a blu-ray. Theres no reason we all couldnt still be swapping cds every hour of gameplay. But silly me, i like convenience and high-end electronics. Silly me, always wanting the best.

Sure, SE could have made FF13's cutscenes look the same on the 360, but it would probably take an extra 2-3 dvds to do it. Then you go from swapping every 15 hours to every 6-7 hours.

 

[SevenInchScrew]

<latest snarky post where you miss the point>

Just forget it. Move along. These aren't the droids you're looking for.

 

[TheSpaz]

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I wonder if knowing the PS2 was the least tough console of last generation made him stop buying one?

Hahahahahaha. I've owned the SAME PS2 for well over 8 years and it still works perfect. I've never had to have it repaired either. It's a very robust system. What makes it the least tough? Perhaps I got a special one?

Anyway, the BD durability is just one of the other perks about using PS3. Of course, if you take care of your games they won't scratch.

I realize that there's a lot of anti-Sony people here trying to turn everything I say into a negative, but I'm being anti-Microsoft so it's no different.

If I was a Microsoft fanboy, I would have a million bad things to say about the PS3 I'm sure.

 

[0098386]

Hahahahahaha. I've owned the SAME PS2 for well over 8 years and it still works perfect. I've never had to have it repaired either. It's a very robust system. What makes it the least tough? Perhaps I got a special one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inXT-CPWoHk. The Gamecube was a very robust system, the Xbox was pretty well made too.

PS2's weren't that strong. We used to use one as a cheap and slightly portable DVD player for college presentations. It toppled off a 3' high desk onto a carpet which broke it, both my Xbox and GC have survived worse. Would be interesting to see some real, scientific tests on console durability.
Also did the PS2 laser class action lawsuit put you off buying a PS2, since you're using these kind of facts against Microsoft.

And no, most people here are neutral when it comes to consoles. I swear by my PSP and DS. My gaming PC handles the rest.

 

[TheSpaz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inXT-CPWoHk. The Gamecube was a very robust system, the Xbox was pretty well made too.

PS2's weren't that strong. We used to use one as a cheap and slightly portable DVD player for college presentations. It toppled off a 3' high desk onto a carpet which broke it, both my Xbox and GC have survived worse. Would be interesting to see some real, scientific tests on console durability.
Also did the PS2 laser class action lawsuit put you off buying a PS2, since you're using these kind of facts against Microsoft.

And no, most people here are neutral when it comes to consoles. I swear by my PSP and DS. My gaming PC handles the rest.

I had no idea that there were any problems with the PS2... mine has always worked flawlessly. I still have the original fat one.

Also, I didn't drop my PS2. I don't drop things that I care about.

 

[SevenInchScrew]

I realize that there's a lot of anti-Sony people here trying to turn everything I say into a negative...

I don't get the impression that anyone here is anti-Sony, as you claim, but I do think there are a lot of people here who are DEFINITELY anti-fanboy. I dislike a lot of things with Sony, MS and Nintendo, and all their respective hardware, but I'm not "Anti" any of them as a brand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inXT-CPWoHk

Ahhhh, memories. That GC startup sequence always made me smile.

Also, I didn't drop my PS2. I don't drop things that I care about.

Maybe not, but you did use a video of someone tipping some consoles over while in use as a claim of durability. Pick a side, can't have it both ways.

 

[MRU]

I realize that there's a lot of anti-Sony people here trying to turn everything I say into a negative, but I'm being anti-Microsoft so it's no different.

If I was a Microsoft fanboy, I would have a million bad things to say about the PS3 I'm sure.

This is where you are eronous in your thinking again. You assume if we disagree with what you are posting that we are anti-sony or anti-ps3 in some way and are as much fanboys as you are.

Some of us just disagree with you period.. None more so than I, and yet I'm not a fanatic of M$ or Sony or any other company. I own all consoles, I own both handhelds, I own multiple macs and yet I still don't hate the opposition. In fact I just don't wasting my time filling my head with hate.

There are many more posters here who have similar opinions and we have found fanboys tend to not last long here generally.

 

[ViViDboarder]

So I'm going to make an observation and take a shot at answering the thread title...

No. No correlation.

 

[SevenInchScrew]

So I'm going to make an observation and take a shot at answering the thread title...

No. No correlation.

YOU HATE SONY!!!

 

[TheSpaz]

Maybe not, but you did use a video of someone tipping some consoles over while in use as a claim of durability. Pick a side, can't have it both ways.

It was just to show the durability of the disc. I'm sorry that the video shows the systems getting tipped over.

This is where you are eronous in your thinking again. You assume if we disagree with what you are posting that we are anti-sony or anti-ps3 in some way and are as much fanboys as you are.

Some of us just disagree with you period.. None more so than I, and yet I'm not a fanatic of M$ or Sony or any other company. I own all consoles, I own both handhelds, I own multiple macs and yet I still don't hate the opposition. In fact I just don't wasting my time filling my head with hate.

There are many more posters here who have similar opinions and we have found fanboys tend to not last long here generally.

I'm just as bad as you... I'll admit it. Everything I've ever said in this thread, you have the opposite view about.

Give me at least one good reason why I should've gotten an XBox. When I want something, there's really nothing you can do to stop me from getting what I want. When I don't want something... there's nothing you can do to get me to want it. Plain and simple. I don't want an XBox.

 

[NT1440]

Give me at least one good reason why I should've gotten an XBox. When I want something, there's really nothing you can do to stop me from getting what I want. When I don't want something... there's nothing you can do to get me to want it. Plain and simple. I don't want an XBox.

Who is telling you that you're supposed to get an Xbox?

 

[TheSpaz]

Who is telling you that you're supposed to get an Xbox?

Well, everyone doesn't like the fact that I simply don't like Microsoft. So I'm ignorant because I never gave the xBox a try. Technically I did though... I used someone else's and I didn't like the menus, the controller and the goofy looking hardware and I wanted an awesome Blu-ray player as well (I have a dedicated Blu-ray player, but I don't really like it very much).

 

[ViViDboarder]

Well, everyone doesn't like the fact that I simply don't like Microsoft. So I'm ignorant because I never gave the xBox a try. Technically I did though... I used someone else's and I didn't like the menus, the controller and the goofy looking hardware and I wanted an awesome Blu-ray player as well (I have a dedicated Blu-ray player, but I don't really like it very much).

Had that been your initial post rather than

2. I didn't wanna buy something that was made by Microsoft (because I'm a Mac guy). I know this one is weird but I couldn't stand the thought of having a Mac computer and a Microsoft game system. At least when I had Windows, I was still using my trusty Mac to do it.

this may not have gotten so heated.

Not wanting to buy it because you didn't like the menu's or controllers or even just the physical appearance is much better than saying just because it's M$.

 

[NT1440]

Well, everyone doesn't like the fact that I simply don't like Microsoft. So I'm ignorant because I never gave the xBox a try. Technically I did though... I used someone else's and I didn't like the menus, the controller and the goofy looking hardware and I wanted an awesome Blu-ray player as well (I have a dedicated Blu-ray player, but I don't really like it very much).

What they don't like is your approach seemed to be based entirely on just not liking a company, and that anyone that disagrees with you is somehow calling you out or being confrontational.

 

[TheSpaz]

Had that been your initial post rather than this may not have gotten so heated.

Not wanting to buy it because you didn't like the menu's or controllers or even just the physical appearance is much better than saying just because it's M$.

Being a Microsoft product was a big part of it. I just can't stand the system all around.

The PS3 has that Mac-like quality that I crave.

 

[SevenInchScrew]

It was just to show the durability of the disc. I'm sorry that the video shows the systems getting tipped over.

But, whether it's the console being tipped over while powered on, or being dropped from 10ft, neither of those are how the console was intended to be used. It specifically says not to move them while in use, in both the 360 and PS3 manual. It is well documented that the 360 will do that to a disc if you move it while a disc is spinning. That is why they tell you not to do that. This isn't a DVD problem, nor a 360 problem. That is 100% user error, nothing more.

 

[ViViDboarder]

Being a Microsoft product was a big part of it. I just can't stand the system all around.

The PS3 has that Mac-like quality that I crave.

I find the most Mac-like console to be the Wii. Infact, as far as Computer - Console comparisons go, I see this:

Wii - Mac (Simple, small, elegantly designed, accessible, anyone can use it)
Xbox - Windows (Microsoft... Plays nice with basically only Microsoft products, menus are simplified, but not as simple as the Wii)
PS3 - Linux (Original was kind of huge, used to be able to run Linux, very powerful but takes some work, mostly text oriented menus)

Just my thoughts.

 

[MRU]

So I'm ignorant because I never gave the xBox a try.

No, your just plain ignorant full stop it seems.

Your so blinded by ignorance that you still are unable to read posts at face value and actually understand what is being written.

Clearly everyone else can follow my posts and understand and comprehend what I am saying and yet with you it goes straight over you head.

 

[TheSpaz]

No, your just plain ignorant full stop it seems.

Your so blinded by ignorance that you still are unable to read posts at face value and actually understand what is being written.

Clearly everyone else can follow my posts and understand and comprehend what I am saying and yet with you it goes straight over you head.

No, you're just trying to get me to argue with you.

I'm a Mac user that doesn't support Microsoft. That's pretty typical for a Mac user actually. Well, I'm not sure how typical it is anymore, but when I was growing up, that was the way things went in the Mac world.

I'm not open minded towards Microsoft.

I also like woman and I already know that I won't like men, but I haven't tried them to find out. I like Apple and I don't like Microsoft and I'm not about to try.

 

[SevenInchScrew]

I'm a Mac user that doesn't support Microsoft. That's pretty typical for a Mac user actually. Well, I'm not sure how typical it is anymore...

Really? Even after EVERYTHING in this thread, you still have doubts about this? Yikes.

 

[0098386]

I also like woman and I already know that I won't like men, but I haven't tried them to find out. I like Apple and I don't like Microsoft and I'm not about to try.

Earlier in this thread you also made a sports team comparison, saying something along the lines of not supporting 2 teams.
I don't understand these analogies. First off competing teams offer nothing but the game as comparison, these hardware companies offer a multitude of services. The whole reference is completely unrelated.
As for comparing brand loyalty to sexuality? Oh my. If electronics and sexuality are this closely tied to you no wonder you feel so passionately about this topic.

Really? Even after EVERYTHING in this thread, you still have doubts about this? Yikes.

My thoughts exactly.

I'm just as bad as you... I'll admit it. Everything I've ever said in this thread, you have the opposite view about.

The only ignorance MRU has is towards ignorance itself. Yours very much isn't.

Wii - Mac (Simple, small, elegantly designed, accessible, anyone can use it)
Xbox - Windows (Microsoft... Plays nice with basically only Microsoft products, menus are simplified, but not as simple as the Wii)
PS3 - Linux (Original was kind of huge, used to be able to run Linux, very powerful but takes some work, mostly text oriented menus)

It's even more similar given how the Wii's menu was also used on the iPhone/iPod! Couldn't agree more about them comparisons. Even down to both Nintendo and Macs being (currently) underpowered .

 

[Norskman]

I'm a long time gamer who used to play mostly on a PC platform. I've moved more over to console for casual gaming on a bigger screen and it's cut my gaming cost quite considerably when I think about how much money I used to spend on computer upgrades every year. *shudder*

I have all 3 consoles. Not because I have to have them all, it just worked out that way. Let me first say that the Nintendo Wii was purchased primarily for my daughter and she does play it from time to time, as do we, but it sits unused more than it should.

I have both an XBox 360 Elite and the older 80GB Playstation 3. I love both of them for different reasons and got them for different reasons.

I also have a PS2 sitting in a cupboard somewhere and never owned the original XBox.

The XBox 360 was purchased first. I waited until the RRoD issues were solved, and when an Elite came out that was suppose to be free of these issues I jumped on it. I love gaming on this device. The XBox Live! feature is by far the best online offering out there. Any cross platform game I want to play I buy for the XBox 360 over the PS3. I don't mind paying the annual fee to keep Gold status and it's only gotten better over time.

We also do our Netflix streaming using the XBox 360 over the PS3. That might change once we don't need to load the Netflix disk on the PS3 and they tweak the UI to be less laggy, but for now we use the Netflix feature on the XBox.

The Playstation 3 was bought back when Blu-Ray players were $4-500 for a decent one. At the time the PS3 was by far the cheapest, most robust offer to get into Blu-Ray, and it's still our primary Blu-Ray/DVD player in the family room. The few games I own for the PS3 are all unique titles to the platform, like Little Big Planet, Uncharted, Resistance 2, God of War 3 etc.

I don't mind buying the games that are only released for the PS3, and they look good! I mostly prefer the XBox 360 controller over the PS3 for gaming, but the PS3 controller is familiar from my PS2 days, so I don't really mind it. It's just a preference between the two, if I had to choose.

Online wise it looks like Sony is still playing catch up to Microsoft's XBL service. Yeah, PSN is free, but it's not all that great. There's absolutely no community feel to it, it's just there. They add a feature and move on.

Now the PS3 has some cool features the XBox does not have, like replaceable hard drives, using your blue tooth cellphone headset for chat, installing *nix for nerdage, and probably a few more I'm missing.

Above all else, the PS3 is quiet. The XBox is far from quiet. It's annoying how loud the XBox is compared to the PS3. The PS3 also looks much nicer sitting in the TV bench. I have the piano black model which matches the trim of my TV. The slim version looks like it has a finish close to the XBox 360 Elite.

I will continue to use both consoles the same way I do now. Most of what I can't do on one of them, I can do with the other, like opening certain file types, or streaming media.

I have all bases covered. This is not Sony vs. Microsoft, or PC vs. Mac. Just get whatever console(s) you want and have fun playing with them.

 

[SevenInchScrew]

...like replaceable hard drives

The 360 has replaceable hard drives, but they have to be the 360-specific ones. Though the new USB drive feature slightly lessens the cost for people that need more storage. But yes, as I'm sure everyone would agree, being able to use ANY 2.5" hard drive in the PS3 if you want to upgrade is very handy.

...installing *nix for nerdage

That will only be a feature for the next 3 hours or so, because at some point on April 1st, there will be a new firmware update for the PS3 that specifically removes this feature. And no, this is not an April Fools day joke...

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/03/28/ps3-firmware-v3-21-update/

Above all else, the PS3 is quiet. The XBox is far from quiet. It's annoying how loud the XBox is compared to the PS3.

I'm actually beginning to think my PS3 is dying. It is MUCH louder than my 360. The problem with the 360 is the DVD drive. The console itself is not really that loud, but when the drive spins up, that is when it gets loud. But now that we're able to install games to the HDD, I don't have to listen to the crazy whirring of the DVD drive. With only fan noise to deal with, it is very quiet.

But my PS3 is very loud, in exactly the opposite way from a 360. If I play a game, or watch a movie for a couple hours, when I go back to the dashboard, you can hear the fans spinning like crazy. The air being spit out the back isn't really hot, so I'm not really worried about heat, but I think the fan might be dying. Does anyone else have anything similar?

 

[Norskman]

The 360 has replaceable hard drives, but they have to be the 360-specific ones. Though the new USB drive feature slightly lessens the cost for people that need more storage. But yes, as I'm sure everyone would agree, being able to use ANY 2.5" hard drive in the PS3 if you want to upgrade is very handy.

Thanks or clarifying. Yes, you can buy replacement HD's for the XBox, as long as it's the MS' XBox hd's. I think the 250GB is running about $120 on Amazon right now, or I can buy a 500GB replacement HD for the PS3 from Newegg for $75.

That will only be a feature for the next 3 hours or so, because at some point on April 1st, there will be a new firmware update for the PS3 that specifically removes this feature. And no, this is not an April Fools day joke...

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/03/28/ps3-firmware-v3-21-update/

Yeah, not quite convinced on this one. Could easily be an April Fools joke gone wrong, but over 4,000 people have replied to that announcement, most of which are not happy. Not sure this is a smart move by Sony. They should have found a better way to do it.

I'm actually beginning to think my PS3 is dying. It is MUCH louder than my 360. The problem with the 360 is the DVD drive. The console itself is not really that loud, but when the drive spins up, that is when it gets loud. But now that we're able to install games to the HDD, I don't have to listen to the crazy whirring of the DVD drive. With only fan noise to deal with, it is very quiet.

But my PS3 is very loud, in exactly the opposite way from a 360. If I play a game, or watch a movie for a couple hours, when I go back to the dashboard, you can hear the fans spinning like crazy. The air being spit out the back isn't really hot, so I'm not really worried about heat, but I think the fan might be dying. Does anyone else have anything similar?

Yeah this doesn't sound right. My PS3 is super quiet, and it sits in a TV stand with no more than 3-4 inches above it for air flow. The 360 is considerably louder. The install game to HD has helped, and it is quieter without the DVD spinning, but the fans are still pretty darn loud compared to the PS3.

Are you outside warranty for fan replacement? If you are you could always open it up and find replacement fans online. Here's the dis-assembly tutorial for the older, piano black version.

http://www.llamma.com/PS3/repair/PS3_disassembly_tutorial.htm

 

[Norskman]

eBay has 19-blade replacement fans for cheap. The stock is 15-blade. 19-blade is a little quieter from what I'm reading online.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...fdb2519&itemid=300388712165&ff4=263602_263622