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Do you believe in Aliens or some other form of living life other than ours?
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Try reading it first before posting.
Not sure where you've read that, can you point me in the right direction? As far as I know, black holes have no 'breaking point' and they're not predicted to explode. I personally don't buy in the multi-verse idea, at least not the one talked about in quantum mechanics whereby the universe splits every time a wavefunction collapses. I'll believe it when they can demonstrate it
It was a documentary recently on the History channel. I wish I could remember the name, but I watched it within the past couple of weeks on H2 I believe.
Read up on Quasars, that's one of the things that happens when a black hole "explodes".
So to conclude;
We may or may not be alone in the universe.
We may or may not be able to send and recieve messages.
We may or may not be able to understand them.
Like just about every sc-fi film out there, we are relying on the aliens being more advanced than us, so they come visit us?
Anybody see a film when that worked out well?
We may or may not be alone in the universe.
We may or may not be able to send and recieve messages.
We may or may not be able to understand them.
Like just about every sc-fi film out there, we are relying on the aliens being more advanced than us, so they come visit us?
Anybody see a film when that worked out well?
The odds say you are right and I agree. I would add this: Will humans, mankind ever meet non-earth intelligent life? No.
The distances, time, and difficulty traveling safely through space present massive and IMO impossible barriers.
dude, the last thing i think about when i ponder life outside of earth is hollywood's interpretation on the subject.
Seems almost certain that theres multiple examples of intelligent life out there somewhere. If there isn't then theres something weird going on.
Its pretty arrogant to just assume they would never be able to get here based on our limited knowledge. Maybe its impossible, maybe its not, but we aren't qualified to make anything more than a guess yet.
Its pretty arrogant to just assume they would never be able to get here based on our limited knowledge. Maybe its impossible, maybe its not, but we aren't qualified to make anything more than a guess yet.
Physical face-to-face does seem impossible (though so did transatlantic, climbing mountains, landing on the moon, etc). But contact and communication don't have to be f2f
Not in our lifetime, but there's no way you can say for certain it will never happen. We can't predict how long humans will be around, how far our technology will develop, etc. 25 million years from now if humans don't kill off the species we could be traveling around the galaxy like star wars... you never know. None of us will live to see it though.
I believe. If you believe in an afterlife, that would obviously qualify, regardless of religion. Statistically, it is more probable there is other life than not.
As to people who say we have not met...I doubt that too. First, afterlife theory, and lastly, 15 billion year old universe.
As to people who say we have not met...I doubt that too. First, afterlife theory, and lastly, 15 billion year old universe.
Yes, all true and good points. I just wonder how we can communicate with life so far away that a reply wouldn't arrive for possibly millions of years. And then there is signal strength for simple contact. With the cosmic noise of billions of stars (our sun is very 'loud') many of them exploding, would we 'hear' the faint sound of intelligent life which would probably be nearly silent compared to all that unimaginably loud noise? IMHO, no. Just my 2 cents
One can never say never. You can't prove a negative. Human life is delicate. The cost of all the iterations necessary to make traveling around like in science fiction is absolutely massive. Who is going to pay for it?
We as humans love to think big. Star Trek and Star Wars are fun, I am a fan. But I believe we are more tied to earth than we'd like to think, which isn't so bad.
This is only true if you assume we've advanced as far as we're gonna go in the sciences, and know everything there is to know about the mechanics of the universe. This isn't true in the least. We have to use an entirely separate, almost incompatible set of maths to describe the macro and micro scales of the universe, and shoehorn exceptions in to describe what we're seeing. Though you can't say Newtonian physics and the theory of relatively are wrong, they're very much not complete.
Right now, what you're saying is very much fact. With what we've got now, travelling even within our own solar system is a monumental undertaking. But what if scientists discover the graviton tomorrow. Within 10 years, we'd be able to mediate the effects of gravity. From there, it's only a matter of time before we build technologies around it, and it becomes widespread. Once this happens, launching vehicles into space would be a near trivial matter.
Then there's the issue of speed. It's true that we'll probably never be able to accelerate an object to the speed of light, but there are so many ways around that it doesn't even matter. What we've been discovering recently is that while the laws of physics and the universe are practically unbreakable, they're not made of stone. They can be stretched like putty, and we can do interesting things with the results.
Like right now, we know it's physically possible to move faster than the speed of light. You can't accelerate an object to the speed of light...but you can compress spacetime in front of an object and propel it at any speed imaginable. The object itself is staying perfectly still, so it's not breaking any physical laws. The only problem is it takes a huge amount of energy to achieve.
...but that's only a problem right now.
Or quantum entanglement, aka two objects effectively become one, while not being located in the exact same position. What this means is that any action applied to one object will be mirrored in the other. Like if you were to have two quantum entangled plates of glass, and you smashed one, the other would crack in the exact same way, regardless of if it's 15 feet or 300 light years away. Distance is a moot point to quantum entangled objects.
This isn't science fiction. We've already entangled two small diamonds. Who knows how this could be applied once we have a better understanding of quantum mechanics.
Right now, yeah...you're right. Current and near future conventional technologies sending people even beyond Mars would stretch our scientific and engineering knowledge to their utmost limites. But the thing is, when we do finally go about exploring the galaxy, we won't be using conventional technologies.
Nothing is impossible. Who knows what we'll be doing in 200 years, let alone 300...500.
Of course there is! Where else do you think I came from?
I thought you were some AI imbedded in Macrumors!
I believe that simple organisms, microbes, maybe some very simple species of animal or plant could very well exist within our reach. It's possible some of these even exist in our solar system.
As far as complex creatures like humans or intelligent life, I feel that they may very well exist, but are so far off we won't be able to encounter them until probably way past our great-great-great-great-great-great grandchilden's lifetime, unless of course, they find us first.
As far as complex creatures like humans or intelligent life, I feel that they may very well exist, but are so far off we won't be able to encounter them until probably way past our great-great-great-great-great-great grandchilden's lifetime, unless of course, they find us first.
Que PRSI...
One theory is that an intelligent and technological culture will eventually become extinct on its planet as eventually all resources are exhausted and it goes extinct or maybe some other mass extinction event occurs.
Sort of like what happened to Easter Island on this planet.
One theory is that an intelligent and technological culture will eventually become extinct on its planet as eventually all resources are exhausted and it goes extinct or maybe some other mass extinction event occurs.
Sort of like what happened to Easter Island on this planet.
Oh come on- ET, Close Encounters. Not all aliens are planet harvesters.
ET? The first wave was to gather plants and information. Wait until ET 2 when they return to harvest the humans for food. He wasn't healing his finger, he was taking a blood sample to check they we are good to eat!
Sorry to take this thread off topic slightly, but Qusars most definitely do not happen when a black hole 'explodes'. Even the link you posted says that. Black holes evaporate over time, but in no way explode. Apologies for getting nerdy! I have a habit of not letting incorrect science go without comment.
Alex
Sorry to take this thread off topic slightly, but Qusars most definitely do not happen when a black hole 'explodes'. Even the link you posted says that. Black holes evaporate over time, but in no way explode. Apologies for getting nerdy! I have a habit of not letting incorrect science go without comment.
Alex
No need to apologize, I'm not a rocket scientist
Explode isn't the right term, it's really just a release of energy I believe.
That's what the documentary I saw a few weeks ago on H2 was trying to say, I think.. it was late at night.
I could be wrong, but hey, we all could be wrong.
It's interesting stuff for sure though.
God was smart to segregate the alien races by millions of light years.
English and Scots killed each other for a long time. Imagine what humans would want to do to aliens.
And if they were advanced enough to get here from wherever, we'd be conquered or annihilated in a short period of time.
English and Scots killed each other for a long time. Imagine what humans would want to do to aliens.
And if they were advanced enough to get here from wherever, we'd be conquered or annihilated in a short period of time.
Well, there are a few factors I would say about life in universe.
Since the time life existed on earth, you could fit several human life. I mean, we have been around for 20 thousand years and life has been on earth for around 180 millions years? That would be around 9 thousand civilizations in that same period of time.
Then, earth is not an old planet, it pretty new.
And then, there are billions of galaxies.
Life has to be around every where. Actually on earth life is every where in every shape. So life in the universe... is obvious.
Since the time life existed on earth, you could fit several human life. I mean, we have been around for 20 thousand years and life has been on earth for around 180 millions years? That would be around 9 thousand civilizations in that same period of time.
Then, earth is not an old planet, it pretty new.
And then, there are billions of galaxies.
Life has to be around every where. Actually on earth life is every where in every shape. So life in the universe... is obvious.
