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Did for years, but realised that it was a complete waste of time for me.

With so much that people are putting onto their iPhones (remember password, bank info, etc.), when you become a victim of identity theft, your bank account gets compromised, on top of your $700 retail value phone gets stolen, you'll realize how taking 10 seconds to set a passcode let alone 2 seconds to enter it in is never a waste of time.

Me? I just activated my 4S. I have a passcode on mine, and it is not a simple one: there is a 1 in 10,000 chance someone could crack your 4 number passcode. Any quick C or C++ program can do that. But when you can have an at least 6 character password in, it becomes that much harder.

BL.
 
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Me? I just activated my 4S. I have a passcode on mine, and it is not a simple one: there is a 1 in 10,000 chance someone could crack your 4 number passcode. Any quick C or C++ program can do that. But when you can have an at least 6 character password in, it becomes that much harder.

BL.

Did you Jailbreaked your iPhone? Because if you did, then it takes only a minute to delete few files (via SHH) and your phone doesn't have passcode anymore :)
 
Did you Jailbreaked your iPhone? Because if you did, then it takes only a minute to delete few files (via SHH) and your phone doesn't have passcode anymore :)

You assume that someone has the time to sit down with it and try to get around any such protections. Most modern day thieves/thugs won't bother doing that, as they are after what will make them money first, than trying to hack the phone.

think from that perspective first before any other major (read: white collar) crime.

BL.
 
When Im going out mostly I get it on and I wont risk if I loose my phone or get robbed to some1 could access my contacts/emails, internet banking apps and others...the phone wipe it self after 10 wrong passcodes entered.
 
With so much that people are putting onto their iPhones (remember password, bank info, etc.), when you become a victim of identity theft, your bank account gets compromised, on top of your $700 retail value phone gets stolen, you'll realize how taking 10 seconds to set a passcode let alone 2 seconds to enter it in is never a waste of time.

Me? I just activated my 4S. I have a passcode on mine, and it is not a simple one: there is a 1 in 10,000 chance someone could crack your 4 number passcode. Any quick C or C++ program can do that. But when you can have an at least 6 character password in, it becomes that much harder.

BL.

You might have just changed my mind on using a passcode lock.
 
when you can have an at least 6 character password in, it becomes that much harder.

and a 10 digit code is even harder ... I used to have a passcode.

However after 25 years of never losing a phone I realize I don't need it anymore.
 
I don't use a passcode as I don't use any email program on my phone... I don't send any personal info in text messages, so they can look at that all they want... As for any app that requires a password, I never keep them saved, you would need to type in the password everytime ( i.e. you do need a password to buy anything in Itunes and app store )... I also always have my phone on me or know where it's placed when not on me... So I think i'm doing ok... :apple:

P.S. if I where to go out to a party or somthing similar to that, then I would put a passcode to get into my phone...
 
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No. They are way too cumbersome to use, and I keep it on my body basically all the time anyways. And my friends would know it wasn't me if someone started sending weird texts.
 
Haven't had one since 2010, 99% of the time, I am the one using the device and it is a pain always unlocking the same passcode hundreds of times.
 
No. They are way too cumbersome to use, and I keep it on my body basically all the time anyways. And my friends would know it wasn't me if someone started sending weird texts.

The issue here is that if your friends would know if it weren't you sending weird text messages to them, it is already too late. Someone already has your phone and could be making calls to who knows where, while you foot the bill for it.

Better yet, they could rack up all these charges, then sell the phone, then sell it again. Until you cancel/suspend the number, you're responsible for the charges on it. But as I said: by then, it is already too late.

A fair number of people here need to seriously think about internet security, especially from a consumer perspective. Lack of such security on things like this cause companies and consumers losses in the billions (yes, with a B). roughly 95 - 98% of them are preventable by having a not so easily crackable password.

BL.
 
The issue here is that if your friends would know if it weren't you sending weird text messages to them, it is already too late. Someone already has your phone and could be making calls to who knows where, while you foot the bill for it.

Better yet, they could rack up all these charges, then sell the phone, then sell it again. Until you cancel/suspend the number, you're responsible for the charges on it. But as I said: by then, it is already too late.

A fair number of people here need to seriously think about internet security, especially from a consumer perspective. Lack of such security on things like this cause companies and consumers losses in the billions (yes, with a B). roughly 95 - 98% of them are preventable by having a not so easily crackable password.

BL.

My friends would know it's not me if they got a normal text...
 
My friends would know it's not me if they got a normal text...

I know you're joking here, but I'll throw this in, to show those here who think that a passcode is a waste of time and effort.

If your friends knew that it wasn't you by a text that they received, it is too late. your phone is already stolen and compromised. You can not safely guarantee that nothing else was also compromised or at least abused until you suspend the number or cancel the plan.

If you already had an app on there that stored your password to your bank account, how could you safely say that it is safe if your phone did not have a lock on it to block access to the app?

You couldn't, because by the time someone gets your phone and slides it to unlock, without the passcode, your phone is already open to them. Nothing is stopping the thief from doing whatever they please to your phone or to your contacts. As far as your friends, your bank, PayPal, etc. would know (assuming you have such apps, which also would also be compromised), they would think it is you. Nothing would stop the thief from getting to your account, transferring money out, or changing your passcode, locking you out of your account, or whatever.

By the time your friends let you know, it is already too late. You couldn't safely protect your identity or your personal information.

BL.
 
I know you're joking here, but I'll throw this in, to show those here who think that a passcode is a waste of time and effort.

If your friends knew that it wasn't you by a text that they received, it is too late. your phone is already stolen and compromised. You can not safely guarantee that nothing else was also compromised or at least abused until you suspend the number or cancel the plan.

If you already had an app on there that stored your password to your bank account, how could you safely say that it is safe if your phone did not have a lock on it to block access to the app?

You couldn't, because by the time someone gets your phone and slides it to unlock, without the passcode, your phone is already open to them. Nothing is stopping the thief from doing whatever they please to your phone or to your contacts. As far as your friends, your bank, PayPal, etc. would know (assuming you have such apps, which also would also be compromised), they would think it is you. Nothing would stop the thief from getting to your account, transferring money out, or changing your passcode, locking you out of your account, or whatever.

By the time your friends let you know, it is already too late. You couldn't safely protect your identity or your personal information.

BL.

You have great points and I thoroughly agree, so don't mind you using it, at all.

If you read back through the thread, you'll see I'm a proponent of them and always use one. Even on my computers.
 
Yep, I have one, and I'm also forced to have one. My company requires the use if I want to access the exchange servers for my work email.

Same here, as the global adressbook provide data to around 110'000 colleagues we for sure have a strict password policy with at least 8 character on iPad and numerical on iPhone. With auto-wipe after a number of failed tries.

Once I had a colleague who though it's funny to enter a wrong code just for no reason. I looked very angry at him.

On my private iPad actually I should set as password back; to be honest right now there is none.
 
The issue here is that if your friends would know if it weren't you sending weird text messages to them, it is already too late. Someone already has your phone and could be making calls to who knows where, while you foot the bill for it.

Better yet, they could rack up all these charges, then sell the phone, then sell it again. Until you cancel/suspend the number, you're responsible for the charges on it. But as I said: by then, it is already too late.

A fair number of people here need to seriously think about internet security, especially from a consumer perspective. Lack of such security on things like this cause companies and consumers losses in the billions (yes, with a B). roughly 95 - 98% of them are preventable by having a not so easily crackable password.

BL.

I don't leave my phone sitting around in random places, and I don't leave it around friends who have a history of texting from other people's phones. Passcode unlock is WAY too annoying. I'd rather just keep it with me at all times...
 
If you already had an app on there that stored your password to your bank account, how could you safely say that it is safe if your phone did not have a lock on it to block access to the app?

BL.

And here is my point. Why would I leave any of my apps for stuff like bank accounts or paypal so that one could just have my phone to log in? I never ever use auto log in for any of those things on any device (in fact on my computer I don't even let it save my user name normally though I admit I got lazy on my phone and usually do let it... which is kinda stupid if you think about it cause I take my phone more places and it is easier to lose). If it is something that I really don't want a thief to get, they'll have to log in first to get to it, I'm not making it easy for them. And unless you use a long, complicated passcode to get into your phone (like something really secure), you're silly to rely on just that passcode but have everything else auto login (cause that means the thief just has to figure out one easy passcode, and they have software that will do that very quickly, and then have access to everything). And do you guys who use passcodes do more than just 4 digits or a word? Just to log in to your phone? I bet most of you don't.

Nothing on my phone that is really important for thieves not to get (besides friends email/phone/addresses which a lot of that stuff the thief could get otherwise and probably isn't what he's interested in honestly) is auto login.

Now, I'll admit I'm a hypocrite, cause i do use a password saving program on my phone (which does mean I am using one password that gives them access to everything), but I also use a really good password to get into it. I would not do that complicated of a password to get into my phone everytime though (this way I only need to put that passcode in for a password I don't remember, which usually means it's a password I don't use that often so it's not like I get annoyed at having to use the long password to get to it. But it's not written down anywhere and even the ways I have to remind me don't remind me of everything so I if I forget certain parts I will have no access myself). So in my opinion it's still better than just relying a passcode to get into my phone cause I'm less likely to make a lazy password because otherwise it would be annoying to have to enter a good one every time I used my phone (which is a lot).

So for me, it's a good compromise between convenience and security. I will agree though that people who think they are safe cause they are never going to lose their phone are too overconfident. It can happen to anyone, I don't care how organized or all together you are. Things happen, people make mistakes, sometimes it's things out of your control even if you didn't make a mistake (there is no way you can have control over everything).
 
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If you already had an app on there that stored your password to your bank account, how could you safely say that it is safe if your phone did not have a lock on it to block access to the app?

BL.

And here is my point. Why would I leave any of my apps for stuff like bank accounts or paypal so that one could just have my phone to log in? I never ever use auto log in for any of those things on any device (in fact on my computer I don't even let it save my user name normally though I admit I got lazy on my phone and usually do let it... which is kinda stupid if you think about it cause I take my phone more places and it is easier to lose). If it is something that I really don't want a thief to get, they'll have to log in first to get to it, I'm not making it easy for them. And unless you use a long, complicated passcode to get into your phone (like something really secure), you're silly to rely on just that passcode but have everything else auto login (cause that means the thief just has to figure out one easy passcode, and they have software that will do that very quickly, and then have access to everything). And do you guys who use passcodes do more than just 4 digits or a word? Just to log in to your phone? I bet most of you don't.

Nothing on my phone that is really important for thieves not to get (besides friends email/phone/addresses which a lot of that stuff the thief could get otherwise and probably isn't what he's interested in honestly) is auto login.

Now, I'll admit I'm a hypocrite, cause i do use a password saving program on my phone (which does mean I am using one password that gives them access to everything), but I also use a really good password to get into it. I would not do that complicated of a password to get into my phone everytime though (this way I only need to put that passcode in for a password I don't remember, which usually means it's a password I don't use that often so it's not like I get annoyed at having to use the long password to get to it. But it's not written down anywhere and even the ways I have to remind me don't remind me of everything so I if I forget certain parts I will have no access myself). So in my opinion it's still better than just relying a passcode to get into my phone cause I'm less likely to make a lazy password because otherwise it would be annoying to have to enter a good one every time I used my phone (which is a lot).

So for me, it's a good compromise between convenience and security. I will agree though that people who think they are safe cause they are never going to lose their phone are too overconfident. It can happen to anyone, I don't care how organized or all together you are. Things happen, people make mistakes, sometimes it's things out of your control even if you didn't make a mistake (there is no way you can have control over everything).

Sounds like we do the same. Glad you saved me explaining though as I was about to :) thanks.
 
True Story:

This weekend my wife had her phone stolen from her purse (along w/ her wallet) while she was at a bar. There was no pass code on her phone, and find my iphone (and all location services) were turned off.

The next day before calling Verizon to deactivate the phone, we decided to call the phone to see what would happen. Of course, no one answered (but the phone was on). We called again immediately and the sent us to voice mail after one ring. Called again and the phone was turned off.

We waited a few hours and I decided to try a bluff. I sent them a text message that said "I know you have my phone and I know you have been to using my credit card at wal-mart, mcdonalds, etc, and we have used the GPS in the phone to track it your address. Do you want to give me my stuff back or do you want me to get the police involved?"

We waited 30 minutes for a reply, got none, then sent a final text that simply said, "Po-po's coming."

A couple of hours ago my mother-in-law texted the phone (not knowing it had been stolen). She received a reply that said "Hello, I'm a Verizon employee and this phone was turned in this morning by someone who said they found it. It has been completely wiped clean and you are the first person to contact the phone. Is there anyway you can contact the owner of the phone and have them call me?"

A couple of hours later and I contacted the verizon store and sure enough they have my wife's phone and I can go pick it up this afternoon.

So, moral of the story? Well, I'm not sure it makes a great case for not having a passcode, but if it did have one, the person who stole it couldn't have read the text I sent and gotten scared enough to return the phone to a store.

But it does show how dumb people are who steal phones.
 
True Story:

This weekend my wife had her phone stolen from her purse (along w/ her wallet) while she was at a bar. There was no pass code on her phone, and find my iphone (and all location services) were turned off.

The next day before calling Verizon to deactivate the phone, we decided to call the phone to see what would happen. Of course, no one answered (but the phone was on). We called again immediately and the sent us to voice mail after one ring. Called again and the phone was turned off.

We waited a few hours and I decided to try a bluff. I sent them a text message that said "I know you have my phone and I know you have been to using my credit card at wal-mart, mcdonalds, etc, and we have used the GPS in the phone to track it your address. Do you want to give me my stuff back or do you want me to get the police involved?"

We waited 30 minutes for a reply, got none, then sent a final text that simply said, "Po-po's coming."

A couple of hours ago my mother-in-law texted the phone (not knowing it had been stolen). She received a reply that said "Hello, I'm a Verizon employee and this phone was turned in this morning by someone who said they found it. It has been completely wiped clean and you are the first person to contact the phone. Is there anyway you can contact the owner of the phone and have them call me?"

A couple of hours later and I contacted the verizon store and sure enough they have my wife's phone and I can go pick it up this afternoon.

So, moral of the story? Well, I'm not sure it makes a great case for not having a passcode, but if it did have one, the person who stole it couldn't have read the text I sent and gotten scared enough to return the phone to a store.

But it does show how dumb people are who steal phones.

Let's just hope no one cloned it and is digging for cc numbers as we speak. I would at the very least change every password including iTunes that youve ever used on the phone ASAP.

I have a pass code and find my iPhone on. Just set the passcode lock to 15 minutes then it's not as annoying.
 
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