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Interesting stuff MD...

Personally, I don't know about any personal family skeletons, my parents have always censored their past to the degree that they evidently were perfect. I have been chipping away, though...

A few rather interesting (to me) tidbits about my family :

- On my mother's side, my great-grandmother, who was a Swiss missonary in Japan, married a Shogun, who became my great grandfather. My mother has a great picture of the two of them, with him in full armor/get-up. It is one of those great brown-and-white photos of the early ages of photography. I am not sure whether my g-grandfather was actually a governor (one meaning of shogun), or merely militarily related, one day I might do some digging...the family name was/is Nakano, which from what I gather is almost like Smith in Japan.

- Also on my mothers side (and related to above), in the early 1940's the Government came in the middle of the night and took away my grandfather (as a japanese-american) to a internment camp in Idaho. My grandmother was kicked off her farm, as the family assets and land were seized by the government, and left with her 14 children. Fortunately, many of the older boys were able to work to support the family, as the 1940's were not exactly easy for a middle-aged woman to get a job. My mother got a check for $25K from Clinton in the mid-90's and a written apology, as did all her siblings. My grandmother got around $200K. Better late than never. Also, my grandfather met quite a few interesting people in the camp, including a rather famous furniture-designer and architect. At my parents house, they have some great silk-screens and furniture that attest to this legacy of friendship.

- On my father's side, before he married my mother, he was evidently quite the ladies-man. Evidently, he got involved with a member of the Vanderbilt family and eventually got her pregnant. The family invited him over and payed him off (I do not know the amount), never to show his face again. So I have a half-sister who is a Vanderbilt and about six years older than I am.

I know, not that cool...
 
My great grandfather liked the booze, fought with bears in the circus, and (here comes the skelleton) drowned a policeman.
 
blackfox said:
- On my father's side, before he married my mother, he was evidently quite the ladies-man. Evidently, he got involved with a member of the Vanderbilt family and eventually got her pregnant. The family invited him over and payed him off (I do not know the amount), never to show his face again. So I have a half-sister who is a Vanderbilt and about six years older than I am.

I know, not that cool...
Umm, the other stuff is interesting, really, but that last part is definitely a skeleton! And it's all cool.
 
My father-in-law was a physician during WW II. He was stationed in the Pacific. While there he wrote a lot of letters to my wife's mother. He moved into assisted living out of state last year. Her mother died over 5 years ago. So she now has those letters in her possession, but don't think that she has read them yet.
 
Does this thread make anybody want to rent Bridges of Madison County, or read the book?

No? Oh, ok. Just asking.
 
Doctor Q said:
Does this thread make anybody want to rent Bridges of Madison County, or read the book?

No? Oh, ok. Just asking.

My wife read the book, said it was an enjoyable read. We rented the movie several years ago, well worth your time. A heart wrenching movie.
 
That's truly great stuff you have there MacDawg.

No real stuff that I know of in my family, but no one really talks that much about what the odd family members might have done or not. And I've never met half my family (on my mother's side). They're all over seas and I don't have much contact with them.
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I'm rather envious of those who can look up their family histories... since I'm the product of what became a very messy divorce, I truly don't care about large tracts of my ancestry.
Those I would care about, aren't my ancestors at all, and would probably resent such an intrusion.

That aside, Dawg, you have a wonderful story; heartening that you have such potent written records... people can search for years uncovering tiny fragments of what you have up there in the loft! Please keep them coming, if there is more :)
 
MacDawg, this may sound weird to you... but I'd recommend writing a book based on the letters (provided you have enough)... I might be a little strange, but the period of history you are refering to is quite compelling.

BTW: your skeleton in the closet reminds me of the plot of the movie "Chicago".
 
There may be one in our family. It was always talked about that when my mom was carrying my sister, it was thought she was having twins.

I came across a remembrance book that clearly mentioned twins. My mom was horrified that I found the book, and tried to explain that it was done before my parents went off to Germany (my dad was US Army). But details of the three years covered were too darn close to what had been told of the stay there.

Never had any desire to really find out for sure. And not sure where I would start, since both of us have W. German birth certificates.
 
Actually, there are several stacks of letters, and I've only scratched the surface so far... Its odd reading about my Dad having a "girl" back home, and its not my mom!

My granddad was a dentist, and served in WWI in the dental corps. He was waiting to hear if he could go back in for WWII. I don't know if he did or not. Most of this I'm finding out for the first time. Some I remember bits and pieces of... but my Dad never spoke of any of it... his mom, his dad, the war... nothing.

We used to think that he was in a witness relocation plan or something. :rolleyes:

Anyway, if y'all are interested, I'll keep adding stuff as I find it. If the thread goes cold, I'll know to stop posting stuff. No need to bore everyone.

Would y'all like to keep seeing pictures and letters? If so, I'll post them. If not, I'll press on.

As far as a book is concerned, I think this kind of stuff has been done to death hasn't it? I doubt anybody would be interested.

Woof, Woof - Dawg
 
MacDawg said:
Actually, there are several stacks of letters, and I've only scratched the surface so far... Its odd reading about my Dad having a "girl" back home, and its not my mom!

My granddad was a dentist, and served in WWI in the dental corps. He was waiting to hear if he could go back in for WWII. I don't know if he did or not. Most of this I'm finding out for the first time. Some I remember bits and pieces of... but my Dad never spoke of any of it... his mom, his dad, the war... nothing.

We used to think that he was in a witness relocation plan or something. :rolleyes:

Anyway, if y'all are interested, I'll keep adding stuff as I find it. If the thread goes cold, I'll know to stop posting stuff. No need to bore everyone.

Would y'all like to keep seeing pictures and letters? If so, I'll post them. If not, I'll press on.

As far as a book is concerned, I think this kind of stuff has been done to death hasn't it? I doubt anybody would be interested.

Woof, Woof - Dawg

Please continue!!! It's actually very interesting... :)
 
MacDawg said:
As far as a book is concerned, I think this kind of stuff has been done to death hasn't it? I doubt anybody would be interested.

If there is enough of a story, it won't have a problem. Just the murder stuff alone is intriguing :D And like you said, you've just scratched the surface. You really won't be able to answer that until you've read them all.

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MacDawg said:
Would y'all like to keep seeing pictures and letters? If so, I'll post them. If not, I'll press on.


YES, please!

As far as skeletons, we have a few. Some famous precendants. I have a brother that is pretty much on the outs with both sides of his family, he is wildly successful in his biz (upwards of 7 figures per year), the best part (I bet he hates it) is that no one is asking for any money, or sucking up to him either-it is great. I believe when his balloon pops it will be a big skeleton (skeleton in developement?)

MD-I am hoping to do a similar dig within the next year, I have footlockers full of this stuff from my mom-I want to make some DVD's out of this stuff. Based on your scans-add the ole Ken Burns effect and you can have the most precious of gifts for you children. KEEP IT COMIN_WE'RE HOOKED! (somebody start the popcorn).
 
I've always been terribly interested in family history and all that, but I haven't really had an opportunity to look into it all that much. I know quite a bit about my mom's side of the family, but I know very little about my dad's side of the family. My last name isn't very common at all. It's Italian, and there aren't even very many in Italy. In America, it's even more scarce. I'm pretty sure that how things worked out, my brothers and I are the only ones in America who are able to carry on the name. Everyone with the same last name as me is either a grandparent, great grandparent, etc., or female. Anyway, this is what I know about my family.

On my mother's side, I am blood related to the great Capt. Bligh of the Mutiny of on the Bounty fame. I am also related, but only be marriage, to the two Adams presidents.

Going along with the WWII theme that MacDawg has started, my grandfather was on a tank landing ship during the war. He did a tour in Italy and showed up at D-Day a few days after the fact. The only war story I ever heard about my grandfather wasn't even told to me by him. Apparently he was transporting Italian prisoners to America to be held in POW camps or whatever. But the Italians were more than happy to go and taunted the American sailors saying that they were going to be in America before them. That didn't go over too well and one day one of the sailors snapped and opened fire on the prisoners. I'm not exactly sure what happened with him.

What is more interesting is that my grandfather graduated college in the 1930s and then toured Europe. That means he was in Germany while the whole Hitler/Nazi thing was taking off. He bought a knife in Germany with a swastika on it as a souvenir, but they wouldn't let him on the boat with it because of the swastika. My grandmother has all his journals from his Europe trip, but unfortunately I don't have access to them now.

On my dad's side of the family, as I said, I don't know very much. I do know that my paternal grandfather was spared from service in WWII because he was an engineer and helped invent things for the war effort. The only thing I know he invented was a device to hide the muzzle flash of some gun.

This isn't all too interesting, but I thought it was funny. Apparently, my great grandfather operated a speakeasy during prohibition. I thought it was sort of amusing that his son grew up to be an FBI agent, the very people who enforced prohibition.

Well, that's all I know. There aren't any real skeletons that I know of. I guess I'll just have to snoop harder.
 
One interesting side light... I've found lots of old stamps and I have no idea if any of them are interesting or not. If there are any stamp enthusiasts out there that would like to see some scans of stamps, let me know.

Also, there is lots of money... some Italian I think, and probably some other types. I'm sure it isn't much, but lots of bills and some coins. Don't know if that's interesting or not either.

There are some medals too, and I'll probably post those later to see if anybody knows what they are.

And lots and lots of pictures. Some look like postcards, but they are from WWI and show dead soldiers, wholesale destruction and it is pretty wicked. But others are just pics, tons of them, and for the most part I have no idea who or what they are.

BTW, this stuff has been in my brother's attic for 17 years. I went down to visit him, and he was ready to "do something with this stuff", so I took it off his hands for a while. :eek:

Woof, Woof - Dawg
 
OK, here's some new stuff if you are interested...

This is my grandmom on my Dad's side in her younger, carefree days!

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This was written by her to my granddad in 1920
My Dad was not born until 1922, and he was an only child

Grandmom said:
Aug. 3, 1920
Tecumseh, Ala.

Dearest Honey Boy -
Arrived O.K. about 4:15 PM. Was sure tired , hungry, sleepy, and lonely.

Have started my exercising already. Walked a mile to a spring after a drink of water.

Cobe was on the train, am sure glad she came. Would sure be lonely. Believe me this is some town.

I have found two pretty kitties down here. They haven't any fleas.

Are you very lonesome tonight? I am, I miss you so much, Darling. I am going to sleep with Cobe tonight, but I won't sleep in her arms, only yours.

Please excuse this short note honey boy. I am going to write you a long love letter early in the morning in time to go off at 12 o'clock. Haven't time to write much as this leaves about 7 o'clock.

Don't worry and think of your Wifie

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Gmomletter2.jpg


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Woof, Woof - Dawg
 
Dawg,

Just wanted to let you know that this is all interesting - I won't comment each time you post, nor will most people, but many of us are following this, so I didn't want you to interpret a lack of replies as implying a lack of interest!
 
Blue Velvet said:
More to do with not living my life according to the script I was handed and not living up to others' expectations.

Hmm. I always thought that life was unscripted, at least that's how it has played out for me.

I think too many people hurt themselves needlessly from trying too hard to live up to the expectations of others, instead of just doing their best to meet their own.

BV, I would never call you the black sheep of the family, blue yes, but definitely not black :)
 
Now this is both of them, my Granddad and my Grandmom later on, after she was sick
(remember she died not long after my Dad went into the service at age 20).

DadsDad&Mom.jpg


Apparently there was some controversy in her latter years...
my Dad's aunt Florence Pickett wrote to my Dad...

Florence Pickett said:
We aren't planning any Christmas here. There are so many faces missing this year. We'll miss every one so much. I can't realize yet that your mother isn't here. I find my self wanting to talk to her so much. I'll always feel that I did what I could to keep her with us. My conscience is clear. I haven't a thing to pay for in that respect but I know a couple of people who will, Mrs. Davis and your father. No one will have to lay a hand on them but they will be sorry, I hope.

Earlier in her letter she wrote...
Of course I wouldn't know about your daddy. Gossip has it that he isn't living at the Davis's any more.

Apparently, Mrs. Davis was the nurse that cared for my Grandmom.
Could be another skeleton, but I'll have to keep reading to find out!

Woof, Woof - Dawg
 
Now here's a little bit about my Dad...
He was in the Army Air Corps
He was the greatest man I've ever known!

Dad is the one on the back row, on the left by himself.
And everybody wants to know why I'm a loner :rolleyes:

He looks a lot like his Mom.

DadsTroop.jpg


Woof, Woof - Dawg
 
Well, my Dad finally got over Alice Rose (his girl back home), and met my Mom after he got out of the service.

Now, my Mom was quite a handful,
but she became the love of his life!

I found this in my Mom's scrapbook.

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Woof, Woof - Dawg
 
My Mom and Dad fell in love :rolleyes:
and my Dad drew her a picture (he was quite an artist)

The caption to the side says:
Bill drew this for me on Valentine in 1947

Cupid.jpg


Woof, Woof - Dawg
 
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