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Do you like Liquid Glass on Mac?

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There is hope, guys. The newest macOS and iOS betas contain a new setting that drastically reduces the LG effect. When turned on, it increases the opacity of a lot of the elements that now appear translucent:

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Unfortunately this setting doesn’t undo the most problematic aspect of LG, which is that many of the primary functions of Apple applications on Mac have been moved to the bottom of the screen. The playback controls in Music are good example of how bad this is. This new toggle doesn’t fix it, instead you have to disable LG entirely for Music using terminal.
 
I think it's safe to say, all these pages in, that the term 'Liquid Glass' also refers to the awful GUI and UX changes that Apple made to showcase it, as well as the bugs that these changes brought. So, in my view, LG = Tahoe as a whole, so reducing transparency doesn't really address many of the UX issues and makes Tahoe look like less of an upgrade over Sequoia visually, which is the opposite of what Apple was going for, despite LG and the new GUI elements looking like a 3rd party theme.

Without the LG effects, what good are these awful menubar buttons? How about those rounded corners, will there be a slider and or toggle for them? What to do about the ugly and forced squircle icons? Speaking of LG, why don't buttons look like glass? Why don't they look like pieces of glass getting pressed in when you click on them? Why are there flat circles over them (when hovering) taking away the illusion? Why aren't the gigantic traffic lights glass? Tahoe is a mess and it doesn't have to be, and it's not just due to LG, but how it was implemented, and how inconsistent it is.

Tahoe should've been closer to visionOS (minus the round icons) with its layers, depth, and frosted, matte-looking glass that looks like glass, but very easy on the eyes regardless what's underneath it.
 
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I think it's safe to say, all these pages in, that the term 'Liquid Glass' also refers to the awful GUI and UX changes that Apple made to showcase it, as well as the bugs that these changes brought. So, in my view, LG = Tahoe as a whole so reducing transparency doesn't really address many of the UX issues and makes Tahoe look like less of an upgrade over Sequoia visually, which is the opposite of what Apple was going for, despite LG and the new GUI elements looking like a 3rd party theme.

Without the LG effects, what good are these awful menubar buttons? How about those rounded corners, will there be a slider and or toggle for them? What to do about the ugly and forced squircle icons? Speaking of LG, why don't buttons look like glass? Why don't they look like pieces of glass getting pressed in when you click on them? Why are there flat circles over them (when hovering) taking away the illusion? Why aren't the gigantic traffic lights glass? Tahoe is a mess and it doesn't have to be, and it's not just due to LG, but how it was implemented, and how inconsistent it is.

Tahoe should've been closer to visionOS (minus the round icons) with it's layers, depth, and frosted, matte-looking glass that looks like glass, but very easy on the eyes regardless what's underneath it.
Cupertino is beyond lazy development wise!
 
Yes, except for Apple! My Tahoe rants are targeted towards the powers that be at Apple, out of frustration. I do hope they have some employees sniffing around forums here and there when pushback surfaces.
You can always take 2 minutes to provide it directly to Apple. The more feedback they get, the more likely they are to pay attention. https://www.apple.com/feedback/
 
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Ah, the memories of Windows Plus! and Theme packs for Windows 98 and later. I guess hipster vintage is in yet again? LMFAO
Good memories! Yes, XP was trying to compete with OS X in those days. I actually have a vintage ThinkPad dual-booting Windows '98 and Windows XP and yes, both have the Plus! packs and themes, AfterDark Screensavers ('98 as they never worked on XP), the 'Icon-Hear-It!' apps from Moon Valley Software, vintage games and other goodies from that golden era!

On the Mac side I have a vintage PowerBook running System 7.6.1 (the first macOS I ever used) and an iMac G4 DVI running OS9 and earlier versions of OS X with all the goodies, fun apps, and games from those respective Mac eras as well.

It's a shame what operating systems have morphed into over the decades. While GUIs of yore are very dated, modern operating systems are way too sterile, cold and minimalist (to a fault). I think it's time for tastefully done happy mediums with modern, well-designed OSs with some warmth and personality and intuitive functionality, but both Microsoft and Apple clearly see things differently.
 
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Unfortunately this setting doesn’t undo the most problematic aspect of LG, which is that many of the primary functions of Apple applications on Mac have been moved to the bottom of the screen. The playback controls in Music are good example of how bad this is. This new toggle doesn’t fix it, instead you have to disable LG entirely for Music using terminal.
This is a troublesome feature. From Apple’s perspective, they’re probably thinking in continuity terms that other devices use a control bar at the bottom of the screen, so why is Music on Mac different? The truth is likely goes back to iTunes, and we’ve adapted to the top control bar through habit.

Having said this, I still believe that having the controls at the top is the most natural place for them. The current strip is just awful.
 
This is a troublesome feature. From Apple’s perspective, they’re probably thinking in continuity terms that other devices use a control bar at the bottom of the screen, so why is Music on Mac different? The truth is likely goes back to iTunes, and we’ve adapted to the top control bar through habit.

Having said this, I still believe that having the controls at the top is the most natural place for them. The current strip is just awful.
There are other comments about this in the Music app criticism thread here. The problem isn't about expectation or habit, it's about information architecture for Western languages. Apple clearly ignores this and at the same time has no style guide or consistent UI design requirements for LG. Information architecture needs to follow a hierarchy from important to unimportant, and top to bottom left to right for Western languages.
 
create an alias and change its icon? I only did a quick test, but it seems to work.

ok after trying it it doesn't seem like a good solution, for the Dock in particular. the alias arrow will still be added to the icon, plus you'll need to keep both alias AND the app in the Dock to see the running app dot. but then the actual app's icon will change after updating anyway.
 
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