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Do you smoke?

Do you smoke?

  • Yes

    Votes: 66 15.4%

  • No

    Votes: 319 74.5%

  • Occasionally

    Votes: 43 10.0%
  • Total voters
    428
mad jew said:
Has anyone else noticed the inundation of cigarette light advertising since the abolishment of tobacco advertising? I'm not sure which countries this applies to, but I thought it was pretty underhand. :(
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Haven't seen any stateside...must be an aussie thing.
 
revenuee said:
don't kid yourself, you're getting a lot of smoke into your lungs when you smoke a cigar.
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of course, but it's a very different feeling. that's what i really meant.. i don't enjoy the feeling of my lungs suddenly filling with hot smoke.

i could honestly care less about the toxins going into my lungs though, theres plenty of those anyway.. as long as i don't feel it :D
 
I didn't think everyone was going to go nuts when I made this. I'm 600 miles away from home, and I don't have any friends - I sit in my room by myself 90% of the time. Smoking is just my release, I was just wondering on thoughts about that. I'm sure people here that are detesting smoking drink or do other harmful things to themselves. I have no other bad habits, I've got nearly straight A's, and I'm a generally nice person.

Might as well close this thread, nothing good is coming out of it.
 
Smoking is gross. waste of money, lose sense of taste, health hazard.

No chance!

( I tried it, seemed like a waste of time, didn't do a thing for me!)
 
Tried it, didn't like it. (It being cigs and the like)

I smoke Hookah every now and then but I don't own one. Theres a few hookah rental places around that are fun to go to.
 
Les Kern said:
Do you drink? Only IDIOTS drink... these days. Sorry. :)
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No, I don't, but studies have proven that small amounts of alcohol can be good for your body; whereas smoking is not good for you in any amount.

Les Kern said:
It's the most dangerous, mind-numbingly stupid thing you can do to your body. It smells, it gives you bad breath, it cost a HUGE amount of money... it's even detrimental to the health of your car seats... which I JUST witnessed, er, DID, just yesterday... as I smoke.
What a buffoon, huh? Sure, I say things like "Grandma smoked 4 packs a day for 75 YEARS". It's true, but even I fool myself with statements like that, or rather, my BRAIN does.

For those of you who have never smoked, GREAT. And those of you who think less of smokers, calling them "weak", know this: Unless you have smoked you can't POSSIBLY know what it's like to quit, and if you call me "weak" to my face I will break most of the bones you have in yours.
They say quitting smokes is WAY worse than quitting heroin, and I believe it. Get off your high horse for one second and think of ways to HELP them instead of calling them stoopid.
Also, I believe, even as a smoker, cities should BAN it everywhere, and it should be taxed out of existence if possible.
Now ppardon me. A Marlboro Medium 100's is waiting for my stoopid ass out in the garage.
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Everyone realizes that smoking is extremely hard to quit. Many people have "gotten off their high horse" and tried to help others quit smoking. Now companies make numerous products to help others (gum, patches, etc.). Some even try calling them stupid hoping that one day it will click with them and it may just save their life.
 
You know, these smoking threads are always interesting to muse upon, because when you think about it there are larger issues involved, and I wonder how consistent people are in regards to them.

Rationally speaking, smoking is bad. It is patently unhealthy, and certainly causes undue misery for many in any number of manners.

Drinking is similarily bad. So is the using of almost all illicit drugs. So is gambling. So is random and/or unprotected sex. So is caffeine. So is bacon/greasy diets. So is salt. So are some fetishes. So is driving too fast. You can compile quite a list.

While you can quibble about the differences in how these above things are bad and unhealthy, you are arguing about technicality, not the essential truth - which is that there is a mountain of evidence to say that all these things can rightfully be called detrimental.

There is another commonality between these things, however, in that they are all "fun" for lack of better wording. This concept is rather hard to pin down, but it is these things that add the "zest" to life, that make us feel most alive, even as we tacitly acknowledge that often times we are risking that very life. Perhaps it is that risk, perhaps it's a psychology of chemical reactions in the brain - of adrenaline, of dopamine, of whatever. Laughter and attitude are not negligible concepts, however - they make our lives worth living, make things interesting and in some cases, make us live where we might otherwise die.

So to those of you who think poorly of smoking - fine, that is your right, and you certainly have a compelling case. To those who think poorly of smokers, you too have a compelling case, insofar as their activities impact your life. But be careful what you argue, because there is more at stake that some stupid people and their willingness to buy cancersticks.

There is always a social cost to irresponsible fun, although it is often harmless enough. Would you really have your "fun" legislated away to criminality? Have your choice made for you, even if the evidence seemed rationally compelling?

Liberty is a tough standard to adhere to, as it requires personal responsibility that not everyone can muster, at least not all the time - and those lapses have consequences. Despite this, it would not be a world worth living without.

Still, if you as an individual wants to exercise this liberty - to smoke, to drink, to have careless sex in an office closet - you must have no illusions about the responsibilities inherent in those choices, if you wish to continue to cherish those rights. Nothing comes for free, even "fun".

If you think I am defending smoking, or even exclusively talking about it - you are missing the point.

Look, half the time, I can't argue my way out of a paper bag - so perhaps you will not see my point or you might disagree with it. This post only serves as a discussion piece, nothing more.

So now I am off to get some drinks, have some fun, hopefully make some choices that sober I might actually think were stupid, perhaps meet people I woudn't normally meet and have an interesting tale to tell. Then I will take a cab home. Goodnight.
 
I don't smoke cigs on a regular bases. They do compliment a nice cold Coors Light though. BC bud (you know what i'm talking about :p) is the way to go. Kids... just don't smoke. :D
 
since college, i have smoked less than 10 cigarettes and i am 42 now

i have smoked some cigars of late, but do not find smoking very appealing at all and would never take up smoking cigarettes since that is the main danger that faces most smokers with possible cancer, stroke, and heart disease as factors related to that habit

as bad as smoking is in america, the biggest health crisis that faces us is obesity and diabetes related to that obesity...according to the latest stanford university medical journal, we are facing a declining life expectancy for the first time ever
 
I don't smoke and think it's a really stupid habit, but I think it's BS when the government does things like ban celebrities from pitching cigarettes or putting awful pictures on the packs. What bothers me is how smoking is legal and widespread, but both the government and private individuals treat smokers like they were puppy-killers or something. If it's really that bad, grow a pair, stand up to the tobacco lobby, and ban the damn things. Otherwise, make 'em put a warning on the pack and then leave people alone.

edit: Well said, blackfox. Spoken like a true libertarian. I wholeheartedly approve!
 
MacsomJRR said:
Smoking causes lung cancer. Don't know if you already knew that or not.
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So does being alive. I better quit living ...

EricNau said:
Some even try calling them stupid hoping that one day it will click with them and it may just save their life.
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Wait -- I can make people immortal just by calling them stupid?



There is beauty enough in the details of our living to welcome each promise of our death.
 
I may smoke, but that doesn't make me a bad person. I see people driving too fast, having sex with people they barely know, drinking --often underage--, doing drugs, and many more things. Smoking is not the end of civilization, there are much larger problems at hand. Smoking is not going to make me healthy, but not smoking will make me insane.

=).
 
EricNau said:
No, I don't, but studies have proven that small amounts of alcohol can be good for your body; whereas smoking is not good for you in any amount.
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Smoking...ehm...other things...can be beneficial in a...ehm...stress-reducing world-view sort of way, right? :p
 
Duff-Man says...I am really tired of all the sad pathetic excuses smokers make to justify their disgusting habit. It kills you - can any excuse possibly make up for that????

But, do what you want as it is your life. But I don't want to inhale your second hand smoke...and I don't want you sitting anywhere near me when I take the transit to/from work because you really smell..reek...I hate the fact that you smell so rotten that I am forced to get up and move sometimes....oh yeah!
 
I quit for a year. It was the most miserable year of my life. I was a complete jacka**. I had non-smokers literally offering to buy me cigarettes, I was that bad. If you don't smoke, don't start is all I can say. I'll quit again soon but I'm not looking forward to it. It's more about the expense than health at this point. I've been athletic all my life and I got no great feeling after I quit, not even after a year. Food still tasted the same, etc. Somebody needs to come up with a magic pill for quitting. And yes, I tried wellbutrin.
 
Les Kern said:
For those of you who have never smoked, GREAT. And those of you who think less of smokers, calling them "weak", know this: Unless you have smoked you can't POSSIBLY know what it's like to quit, and if you call me "weak" to my face I will break most of the bones you have in yours.
They say quitting smokes is WAY worse than quitting heroin, and I believe it. Get off your high horse for one second and think of ways to HELP them instead of calling them stoopid.
Also, I believe, even as a smoker, cities should BAN it everywhere, and it should be taxed out of existence if possible.
Now ppardon me. A Marlboro Medium 100's is waiting for my stoopid ass out in the garage.
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Hey Les, can I get your address, I would like to test out this bone breaking theory. :p However, any addiction can be tough to break depending on its hold on you, so while physically the symptoms of withdrawal may be different, psychologically the differences are similar, and support from different 'abusers' can be effective.
 
blackfox said:
Rationally speaking, smoking is bad. It is patently unhealthy, and certainly causes undue misery for many in any number of manners.

Drinking is similarily bad. So is the using of almost all illicit drugs. So is gambling. So is random and/or unprotected sex. So is caffeine. So is bacon/greasy diets. So is salt. So are some fetishes. So is driving too fast. You can compile quite a list.

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There is always a social cost to irresponsible fun, although it is often harmless enough. Would you really have your "fun" legislated away to criminality? Have your choice made for you, even if the evidence seemed rationally compelling?
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Like I said, I think it's ridiculous that people here bash "smokers" when there are so many other issues that people would never touch upon because they're guilty guilty guilty of participating in these activities.

Lets ban bacon as well. I eat it, but it's bad for your body.

Same with suntanning and beaches, and hell, ban skydiving. People collect onto beaches and get hit by UV for hours.

In fact, ban red meat. Let's ban beef. My research, which will contribute towards treating prostate cancer, the most common form of cancer in most countries (lung cancer is the other one biggie), would end and not be necessary , would surely end since there would be much less of a need for it.

People who just sit and say "Smoking is bad for you. Why would anyone want to give themselves cancer?" isn't thinking. Sorry, but you're not. Not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer, and not everyone who doesn't smoke will avoid getting lung cancer. Christopher Reeves' wife is an example. Poor diets kill more people than smoking does, but many of the people who don't smoke won't say anything about that. Same with people who have ever had a sunburn. Lets see those people get out of the sun.

Lets ban preaching. It's annoying and doesn't do us any good. Everyone finds release in their own way. :)
 
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