I appreciate your anecdote, but you didn't answer my question - what about the Walmart kale makes it fake?
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Do You Strive to Eat Organic? Do you care?
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I appreciate your anecdote, but you didn't answer my question - what about the Walmart kale makes it fake?
Perhaps fake was a misrepresentation of my intended use in attempting to describe the fresh kale from Walmart as that one doesn't look natural in size and most probably not up to par in its nutritional content when compared to an organic substitute. With that being said, I've migrated from going to Walmart to buy my leafy greens to Food 4 Less, for the reason of it being slightly lower in price and receiving the same (or sometimes more) amount. Of course this still not being considered organic.
while organic is super expensive
I do taste a difference. I'm a big veggie/fruit eater and juicer (decades prior to this juice/cleanse trend) and I notice a huge difference in taste and freshness.
It sucks that organic food costs more than processed. That's the one lame thing about eating organic.
I do taste a difference. I'm a big veggie/fruit eater and juicer (decades prior to this juice/cleanse trend) and I notice a huge difference in taste and freshness.
It sucks that organic food costs more than processed. That's the one lame thing about eating organic.
Well good, because when I am home, all my steaks, ground beef, and roasts, chicken,pork come from family owned organic farms, which sell at the local farmers market, or you can go right to the farm itself and they'll cut up whatever you want. Same with my milk and eggs. No hormones, no genetic engineering, its all free range and tastes much better than crap you buy at **** mart.
I do perfer to buy Organic for most things ( I do my research to make sure it real organic and not the fake stuff ), just because I don't feel like eating growth hormones and anti biotics.
And as people have pointed out before in this thread, organic veggies and fruits do normally tastes much better.
And its really not any more expensive. And when you buy from your local family owned farm, or the farmers market, your supporting the little guy. Not a mega corporation like Tyson or Wal mart.
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Oh yes, I'm sure the Wal Mart steak pumped full of hormones and antibiotics is SO much better than the steak found at local farms, where cows tend to actually roam free and eat grass rather than corn ,and aren't pumped full of hormones
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Of course it would! Food grown in a much more natural enviorment without growth hormones, genetically modified and stuff with anti biotics is much worse and tastes crappy compared to a bucket full of processed KFC chicken and fake potatos.
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As someone who has spent lots of time in Europe, I can agree. In Europe you see a lot more family owned farms and shops, open markets full of local food that are open nearly every day, and you also see lots more family run resterunts to, tons of them seem to source locally when they can as well.
In America, not so much. It's a lot of big ****** box stores like Wal mart and other generic supermarkets that sell tons of processed stuff, as well as all the chains and fast food, and the American obession with eating the cheap as possible foods, leads to most people in America not caring about what they eat, as long as its deep fired or covered in mayo, they are happy with it.
I do think those are some of the reasons local organic food is so much more popular in Europe than it is in America.
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You've never heard of free range Organic meat? It's often far superior and more flavorful than the cheap meat you see at places like Wal Mart.
Oh yes, I'm sure the Wal Mart steak pumped full of hormones and antibiotics is SO much better than the steak found at local farms, where cows tend to actually roam free and eat grass rather than corn ,and aren't pumped full of hormones
Wal-Mart steak? I'm not sure as I've never been there nor have I eaten their stake since I don't live in the US
All my food is organic (i.e. contains carbon). As for the marketing term "organic", I wouldn't bother spending the extra money.
Exactly, I don't trust labels anymore. It's like how they say "Free Range Chicken" but that technically means no cage. They are still cramped up in a place without seeing outside.
Yep, that's why you need to do the research on where your food comes from.
It's why try to go Farm straight to table as much as I can. I realize that is sometimes impossible, but I do as much as I can
Everyone in this thread eats organic food. You would die otherwise.
Everything else is just marketing to dupe people into paying more money for less food.
We started watching what type of meats we buy.
The biggest thing we have noticed about buying naturally raised meats is of course a dent in the budget but more importantly it is easier on our digestive systems.
Cooking such meat on the grill it does cook a little differently and I have to watch it more closely.
to us it is work spending $500 more a year on our health.
Organic veggies - torn on this. when you have bananas on the left side of the shelf with the same country stamped on the bananas on the right side I have to wonder if I am paying 50% more for the green bag marked organic
The biggest thing we have noticed about buying naturally raised meats is of course a dent in the budget but more importantly it is easier on our digestive systems.
Cooking such meat on the grill it does cook a little differently and I have to watch it more closely.
to us it is work spending $500 more a year on our health.
Organic veggies - torn on this. when you have bananas on the left side of the shelf with the same country stamped on the bananas on the right side I have to wonder if I am paying 50% more for the green bag marked organic
I will refer you to post 14 where I cite reputable sources that confirm tangible benefits to organic production.
Please avail yourself to the information that's out there.
Your post sounds like resistance for the sake of resistance.
Knowledge and an open mind is preferable.
Have you ever even bought produce/meat from a family owned organic farm rather than a generic Supermarket? There is a huge difference in taste/quality.
If you want to eat growth hormones, anti biotics, and genetic engineered plants, go for it
I promise you it doesn't taste as good.Unless you think this
( when I was a poor college kid I ate stuff like that, NEVER again )
is as good as this
I've noticed this in organic pistachios, raw and unsalted. Every now and then I would find what appears to be a small maggot or worm when I split the shell open.
Try this article for a lengthy take down of organics myths. Brian Dunning also did a good job of covering things on one of his podcasts. Scientific American suggested the land use benefits of conventional farming over organic and Dr. Steven Novella shared data showing no health benefits from organic foods.
Because I care about what I put in my body, I'll go organic to avoid the dirty dozen, but not so with the clean 15:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/health/the-dirty-dozen-and-clean-15-of-produce/616/
It's not a matter of nutritional values, but of pesticide residues. Nor do I want antibiotics or growth hormones in the food I eat. Or GMOs.
My local supermarket carries quite a few organics and the prices are reasonable. In the summer I grow my own veggies and am fortunate to live in an area abundant with wild strawberries, raspberries, and blackberries.
Ever compare a supermarket egg to an egg from a chicken that's allowed to roam around a garden, eating a natural diet? You will be stunned at the difference in the color of the yolk.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/health/the-dirty-dozen-and-clean-15-of-produce/616/
It's not a matter of nutritional values, but of pesticide residues. Nor do I want antibiotics or growth hormones in the food I eat. Or GMOs.
My local supermarket carries quite a few organics and the prices are reasonable. In the summer I grow my own veggies and am fortunate to live in an area abundant with wild strawberries, raspberries, and blackberries.
Ever compare a supermarket egg to an egg from a chicken that's allowed to roam around a garden, eating a natural diet? You will be stunned at the difference in the color of the yolk.
Spoken like someone with no real understanding of science. Good for you. All anecdotal, unproven information. Leave GMOs out of the conversation, by the way. A lot of them are no different than their "organic" counterparts. Use your brain, save your money, and buy hormone and nitrate free meat and buy the regular fruits and vegetables. You are smarter than to be duped by the "organic" fad.
Well, I wasn't asking for advice, but thanks for sharing your viewpoint.
I'm quite content with my food choices and will continue to harvest fresh, pesticide-free veggies and fruits, or purchase them when necessary.
Do you by chance work for Monsanto?
Do You Strive to Eat Organic? Do you care?
http://io9.com/what-if-natural-products-came-with-a-list-of-ingredient-1503320184
You're welcome. And no, I don't work for Monsanto. Get over yourself
http://io9.com/what-if-natural-products-came-with-a-list-of-ingredient-1503320184
You're welcome. And no, I don't work for Monsanto. Get over yourself
I don't really think there's a big difference between organic and nonorganic foods on the shelf. So if I end up picking up something and it happens to be organic - great. If not, no big deal. Not going to go out of my way or pay a lot more for organic though.
I know some people that personally buy their food from farms and avoid grocery stores. There's probably some worthwhile difference in that.
The difference you experienced between Walmart and Whole Foods probably is more than just the difference between organic vs inorganic
I know some people that personally buy their food from farms and avoid grocery stores. There's probably some worthwhile difference in that.
The difference you experienced between Walmart and Whole Foods probably is more than just the difference between organic vs inorganic
That is what I do, there are lots of organic family farms around here, I frown on factory farms heavily. They produce some very good food as well.
And, the nice thing about avoid places like Wal Mart, is that Wal Mart won't get my money, which is important to me. ( Then again, I also tell people who aren't informed that Wal Mart executes chinese kids at their forced labor factories, which clearly is not true at all. But hey, why not )