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Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by jtsang777, Aug 9, 2016.
I might guess September because Apple didn't have a October event last year, only a September event.
Whenever Apple see`s fit, as they are apparently under the delusion that the market is waiting for them Sales of Mac`s are bombing, too expensive, too little, too late, and more importantly fewer care. What can we expect next "thinner" at the cost of usability, with the computers being more fashion statements than tools.
I'm thinking around October for the new release MBP's
October would be the appropriate time release IF an update is even prevalent.
Have there been any leaks of hardware from the China supply chain ecosystem yet? If a new hardware release was only a month or two away, we should be awash in blurry potato cam pictures of the case and motherboard by now.
This doesn't happen for macs only phones and pads, it is incredibly likely we'll see nothing but speculation until they are announced.
- We have seen supposed pictures of the top case from several angles.
We have and then some artists renderings of it, but I have never seen any Mac logic boards etc pictures before release. Indeed it's often an eager wait for an ifixit tear down.
- That's true about the logic board. I was, of course, answering the question with respect to the case.
That top case leak seems very likely to be the real deal, I'd say.
Shortly after the back to school special expires, which is in September. I see no reason for Apple to wait longer, its not like they'll see Kaby Lake suddenly appear.
Yeah looks likely, it is just a laptop case though, so no use for predicting the specs that will be available.
Your missing the neither category as well since its also likely that there wont be a refresh till 2017
- Not strictly. The option is "October or later", which would include 2017.
Touch ID is reiterated by infallible Mark Gurman as one of the new features of new MacBook Pro. I doubt El Capitan will squeeze in Touch ID support this late in the game.
So the new MacBook Pro will coincide with macOS Sierra, whose two features strongly hint Touch ID integration: (1) Auto Unlock with Apple Watch and (2) Apple Pay in Safari (via iPhone).
While it's entirely possible for macOS Sierra to coincide with iOS 10's release date, OS X always trailed iOS releases by 2 weeks or more in the past.
So my guess is late September release at the earliest, most likely in October.
Seems likely. I really, really hope they don't put this off until 2017... I'm betting on Skylake in both 13" and 15" variants by October of this year. The 15" inch is still shipping with Haswell - that architecture is 3 years old at this point...
Mac sales has certainly declined on the last quarter, but it isn't exactly "bombing". And the decline is largely attributable to stale lineup (only MacBook and iMac are relatively fresh).
- I quite agree with your analysis. But I'm not sure I see in what way auto unlock hints at Touch ID. Apple Pay, yes.
I think Touch ID equipped Macs (probably excludes desktop Macs) will eventually do everything Touch ID equipped iPads can do, which are:
Unlocking the device
Apple ID authentication in App Store and iTunes Store
Apple Pay in Apps
Apple Pay in Safari
#3 is probably due later, hopefully as macOS Sierra maintenance release.
- Completely agreed. I just don't understand in what way you meant the implementation of auto unlock using an Apple Watch implies that Touch ID will come to the Mac.
Auto Unlock with Apple Watch is pretty cool, and an interesting strategy to sell more Apple Watch.
But not everyone wants Apple Watch (or Watch could be in a charger) and since macOS Sierra is already adding Auto Unlock with Apple Watch, why not just hook it up to Touch ID as well?
I feel like a separate release would give it more attention. If it's released with the iPhone, the iPhone would steal all the limelight.
- Sadly, yes. Though at this point the new MacBook Pro looks massively more interesting than the new iPhone. So it really ought to be the other way around if anything.
From these numbers Mac`s are seeing 23.4% year-over-year decline, in my own business metric I would very much classify that as bombing. I somehow doubt the missing numbers are people waiting on the next MPB. I more rather suspect people are not buying Mac`s due to lack of innovation and greed.
That article writes:
4.8 million to 4.4 million is far from 23.4%, 8.3% decline to be exact.
Aploogies wrong link:
Year on Year -23.4% facts are simple people are less likely to be purchasing a PC, and Apple is doing little to reverse the trend. Let`s be straight the current Mac range is hardly impressive, I`ve own Mac`s for decades, using them in professional & recreational roles. Now I am moving ever further away from Apple as they are focused on a different audience. To me sales are reflective of some moving on, others holding on longer to their existing hardware.
We should expect & demand far more of Apple, not just be grateful for what Apple choose`s to churn out, compromising so much for the sake of thinness is simply a joke, especially in a desktop solution and a "Prosumer" notebook. Should Apple continue to build it`s walled garden, it may well find the walk around the wall is a good deal shorter, year on year with the Mac.