iPad Pro Does 4K video out mean mouse and keyboard support?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Mathias Denichi, Oct 20, 2018.

  1. Mathias Denichi macrumors 6502

    Mathias Denichi

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    If Apple is truely planning on putting 4K video output, and it’s not just mirroring, I figure they will offer mouse and keyboard support.

    I think it will either mean the iPad becomes the keyboard + touchpad itself/support Smart Keyboard and Bluetooth mouse in output mode, or it will be an extended display similar to duet display.

    I wish for the previous, but it will likely be the latter. What do you think?
     
  2. 007p macrumors 6502a

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    I’d absolutely love it but I doubt it will happen. Even if it happens eventually, I don’t think it will happen until a major iOS version, e.g. ios 13. I think we might have seen something in iOS 12.1 code by now - of course maybe not, but I just think this would be something massive that they’d want to show off at WWDC rather than hardware launch, after all, supporting mice is purely software at this point.
     
  3. akash.nu macrumors 603

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    I’m sorry, how’s that relevant again?
     
  4. Mathias Denichi thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Wouldn’t be it be un-user friendly to have your iPad go out to a monitor and have it just mirror what’s on the screen? It means you would have to look directly at the iPad while using it, not at the screen it’s on.
     
  5. akash.nu macrumors 603

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    What if the external monitor support only works for playback?
     
  6. sracer macrumors 604

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    I would be quite surprised if the switch from the lightning connector to USB-C was anything more than updating to a new standard. I don't expect the change to offer more capabilities than what is currently available with lightning.... not because of any technical limitations but because of Apple's planned direction for the iPad platform.

    I think that the only reason why Apple would provide such capabilities would be if the competition became successful with it... not Android tablets, they're essentially dead, but Chrome OS tablets and 2-in-1 chromebooks. The upcoming Chrome OS 70 provides a user interface that transforms from a desktop user experience to a tablet UX depending upon the orientation of the device.

    Absent that, I don't see the USB-C port on the iPad Pro being anything more than a faster lightning connector.
     
  7. Superrjamz54 macrumors 6502

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    Type C has better video support. Probably why they are using it instead of lightning
     
  8. Mathias Denichi thread starter macrumors 6502

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    You're probably right, unfortunately.
    Yeah, that's how you become a trillion dollar company. They'll probably sell it as a feature in the future that can be done now.
     
  9. Jarcrew macrumors 6502

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    If they’re bringing Final Cut in some form to the iPad, a 4K output would be useful for previewing 4K video.
     
  10. Mathias Denichi thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Yeah, id probably still use Luma Fusion
     
  11. Jarcrew macrumors 6502

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    Well, sure. I’m sure lots of apps could benefit from a second screen. Procreate could add a second screen for reference photos. GarageBand could have the track screen on a monitor while you play/adjust an instrument on the main unit. I’ll be very interested to see what multi-app functionality they offer.
     
  12. sonicrobby macrumors 68020

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    Yeah it just doesn't make sense as to why they would do that. I don't see video out as the reason behind the switch, as you said, the iPad's interface is one in which you need to touch to use, and in eliminating headphone jacks apple seems to be looking to go more wireless; so they would embrace airplay more than a corded video out option.

    I do think they are looking to make the iPad more of a computer replacement. Standardizing to USB C over a custom port would allow for a wider range of accessories, like USB C thumb drives, or dongles that users use already from their Macs. Same way they just released the USB C Apple Watch cable. Im sure iOS 13 will also open up some more capabilities with what the port can be used for.

    I look forward to the move as I can further reduce the amount of cables I have to carry around with me. Just hope next years iPhones follow suit.
     
  13. spacebro macrumors 6502

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    I don't understand this feature because airplay can already mirror the iPad screen. This points towards keyboard/mouse support in iOS. If the new mac mini is the A12X with iOS on the desktop I could see why they would add this feature to iPad.
     
  14. TheRealAlex macrumors 68000

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    I have to think Yes because every High end Tablet is offering this feature of USB-C to 4K and some kind of pseudo PC functionality
    My Note 9 does it.
    The Samsung Tab S4 does it.
    The Coming Google Pixel Tablet does it.
    All the Microsoft Surface Tablets offer it since they just run Windows 10.

    Only Apple stands apart as not offering it.

    Take a look



    I look forward to buying the $75 Dongle which does USB-C to 4K 60 with HDR.

    Heck on Amazon they costs $26 for the Note 9
     

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