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With the reduction on bezel sizes rumoured to be coming in iPhone 12, this 5.4 inch could end up being the same total physical size as the 1st generation iPhone SE. Obviously it won't have the latest tech in it, like the larger models will but it'll be mostly up to date (unlike the SE series). For many that is a trade off that they are willing to take.
On the other hand you have people who would easily pre-order a new modern phone sized iPhone if they start existing again. These people have phone size as their #1 priority. I am one of these people. For the record, my daily driver is a 1st generation SE.

Rene Ritchie has a decent video up on the subject also. He asks the question - Buy a 2nd generation SE now or wait for a phone sized iPhone 12, assuming Apple is actually releasing them at all. There's a lot more than just size to consider. However, important as that is, many phone sized iPhone users mostly just want a phone sized iPhone. That's it really. As long as it gets the job done of being a phone with some small computing (like emails and on the go content consumption), that's all these people want.
For these people it'll mostly come down to the price as well as how new it is. Not for any specific features, but the newer iPhones last longer longer before they stop getting supported on new iOS versions. Yes these phone sized iPhones are cheaper, they are still not a cheap phone. People want to keep them for as long as possible.

So what do you think about the rumoured 5.4 inch iPhone 12? Does it interest you?
 
With the reduction on bezel sizes rumoured to be coming in iPhone 12, this 5.4 inch could end up being the same total physical size as the 1st generation iPhone SE. Obviously it won't have the latest tech in it, like the larger models will but it'll be mostly up to date (unlike the SE series). For many that is a trade off that they are willing to take.
On the other hand you have people who would easily pre-order a new modern phone sized iPhone if they start existing again. These people have phone size as their #1 priority. I am one of these people. For the record, my daily driver is a 1st generation SE.

Rene Ritchie has a decent video up on the subject also. He asks the question - Buy a 2nd generation SE now or wait for a phone sized iPhone 12, assuming Apple is actually releasing them at all. There's a lot more than just size to consider. However, important as that is, many phone sized iPhone users mostly just want a phone sized iPhone. That's it really. As long as it gets the job done of being a phone with some small computing (like emails and on the go content consumption), that's all these people want.
For these people it'll mostly come down to the price as well as how new it is. Not for any specific features, but the newer iPhones last longer longer before they stop getting supported on new iOS versions. Yes these phone sized iPhones are cheaper, they are still not a cheap phone. People want to keep them for as long as possible.

So what do you think about the rumoured 5.4 inch iPhone 12? Does it interest you?
Based on a lot of different comments in various articles/threads like https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...12-screen-be-try-it-out-for-yourself.2247758/ it seems like there's quite a bit of interest.
 
With the reduction on bezel sizes rumoured to be coming in iPhone 12, this 5.4 inch could end up being the same total physical size as the 1st generation iPhone SE. Obviously it won't have the latest tech in it, like the larger models will but it'll be mostly up to date (unlike the SE series). For many that is a trade off that they are willing to take.
On the other hand you have people who would easily pre-order a new modern phone sized iPhone if they start existing again. These people have phone size as their #1 priority. I am one of these people. For the record, my daily driver is a 1st generation SE.

Rene Ritchie has a decent video up on the subject also. He asks the question - Buy a 2nd generation SE now or wait for a phone sized iPhone 12, assuming Apple is actually releasing them at all. There's a lot more than just size to consider. However, important as that is, many phone sized iPhone users mostly just want a phone sized iPhone. That's it really. As long as it gets the job done of being a phone with some small computing (like emails and on the go content consumption), that's all these people want.
For these people it'll mostly come down to the price as well as how new it is. Not for any specific features, but the newer iPhones last longer longer before they stop getting supported on new iOS versions. Yes these phone sized iPhones are cheaper, they are still not a cheap phone. People want to keep them for as long as possible.

So what do you think about the rumoured 5.4 inch iPhone 12? Does it interest you?

My prediction is the 12 5.4 is going to sell like hot cakes. It’s everything that us 6/7/8/SE 2000 form factor lovers have wanted in an iPhone with same form factor.
 
I've been slowly decreasing the size of my iPhones over the past few years (from an 8 Plus, to a XS Max, to an 11) and I've been increasingly enjoying my experience.

I would have considered going for a standard, non-Max Pro model this year if they kept it at 5.8", but I will likely be going for the 5.4" model this year.
 
It’s pretty well established that there is a lot of interest in a more compact iPhone although I would not refer to that as phone sized - that’s just a made up term in a market where plenty different size phones have existed for decades.

I prefer bigger screens personally but make a final decision when I can see the final product with my own eyes - which is just a couple weeks away I guess.
 
It does interest me but I don’t know if I’m going to purchase it. I’m definitely getting the 12 Pro 6.1 but I can’t wait to see what it looks like and I’m curious if it will it come in the funky colors the standard iPhone usually comes in. I’m betting it does.
 
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I'm of two minds-- my bad eyes like a larger screen. My XR is a really nice middle of the road size for me. On the other hand, if it weren't for wanting a camera, I'd love to not have a phone at all and just have an Apple Watch and my IPP (if it were possible to pair them)-- that part of me likes the idea of minimizing my phone as much as possible. Bottom line is, though, no-- given how perfectly my XR functions, there is simply no reason to upgrade this year.
 
I'm happy Apple is offering a smaller form factor for those who crave a smaller device but, I personally won't own another phone smaller than the 5.8 form factor. Seeing how the 12Pro will be 6.1 I'm going to give it a shot and I'll bet the slightly larger size won't bother me.
 
I've been slowly decreasing the size of my iPhones over the past few years (from an 8 Plus, to a XS Max, to an 11) and I've been increasingly enjoying my experience.

I would have considered going for a standard, non-Max Pro model this year if they kept it at 5.8", but I will likely be going for the 5.4" model this year.
I'm the same but up a level. 11PM is about as big as I would want to go, so if they can't shrink the bezels/notch on 12PM to make the body close to the 11PM, I may take regular 12P instead if I even get one.
 
It does interest me but I don’t know if I’m going to purchase it. I’m definitely getting the 12 Pro 6.1 but I can’t wait to see what it looks like and I’m curious if it will it come in the funky colors the standard iPhone usually comes in. I’m betting it does.
I'm guessing normal 12 will get the brighter colors, and the Pros will be the usual SG S G and a different unique color to replace MG. Wish they would bring Cosmic Blue for real this time instead of another tease like for 11P.
 
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It seems all but certain the 5.4" size is coming and will sell very well. I think the battery might be the weak spot, but we shall see. I'm hoping for at least a couple hours more than the battery life on the 2020 SE.
 
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I'm not interested in the 5.4 size. I'm older and the screen size on my 11 Pro is perfect for me and the battery life is great. I haven't definitely ruled out the 12 Pro 6.1 but I think the size will probably be bigger than I want. I'm happy with my 11 Pro and may just stick with that.
 
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I am very interested in the 5.4 iPhone. I would rate overall size as priority 1. My phone is mostly used for calls about 90% of the time. The rest is a mix of text, mail, maps, audio, and the web on occasion. I fall into the group that hates carrying around a large phone. I have a Mini 5 I can bring along for occasions when I need a larger screen.
 
It’s funny. One would think at 52 I’d be wanting bigger for my eyesight (and it IS nice), but I also like smaller for my comfort and ease of use. I am interested in it for sure, but I’m really appreciating my SE2 about now, and trying to remember that I do not have to upgrade just because there is a new phone(s).
 
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It’s funny. One would think at 52 I’d be wanting bigger for my eyesight (and it IS nice), but I also like smaller for my comfort and ease of use. I am interested in it for sure, but I’m really appreciating my SE2 about now, and trying to remember that I do not have to upgrade just because there is a new phone(s).

Yea I’m 53 and I prefer a smaller phone like.my 8. The 12 5.4 is actually going to be smaller than the SE 2020 but the screen will be larger :)
 
It’s funny. One would think at 52 I’d be wanting bigger for my eyesight (and it IS nice), but I also like smaller for my comfort and ease of use. I am interested in it for sure, but I’m really appreciating my SE2 about now, and trying to remember that I do not have to upgrade just because there is a new phone(s).
That is going to require less reading on MR the closer to release day. :p
 
Yea I’m 53 and I prefer a smaller phone like.my 8. The 12 5.4 is actually going to be smaller than the SE 2020 but the screen will be larger :)

Yeah I’m curious about this, and how much smaller it will feel in the hand. I love the size of the SE2 (6,7,8), and I also like the rounded edges. I’m curious about something smaller and squared off. I just don’t know if the screen size will be different enough to matter, and how the notch will look on a smaller screen like that.

I wasn’t ever one of those anti-notch folks until I went to the SE2 and then got an 11 again and was suddenly more annoyed by the notch than before.
 
I wonder if the difference in size will really be noticeable, in day to day use. That is the focal point, in my opinion.

You mean phone size or screen size, or both? I wonder if the squaring off the edges will make it seem even smaller, and the screen size being .7” with a notch not really feeling much bigger. IDK. I’m definitely curious.
 
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