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So let me summarize:

1. You have played with a display rMB in a store for 10-15 minutes
2. You quickly concluded that your MBP is superior and rMB is not "powerful enough" (for what you don't truly know)
3. You have decided to create a worthless thread listing your poorly articulated conclusions and haphazard assertions.

Congrats - your mission is accomplished.

If I use it for a week or two is it supposed to work faster? Like a beak in period? :D

If you try the MBPr you would know what I'm talking about...
 
I've owned mine for nearly a week and I agree with everything he said. I think some people are really convincing themselves that this is a capable machine. In reality, I can't see many people owning this computer for many years to come. As soon as there's a considerable upgrade, people will flock to it. This really feels like a hardware beta test and I'm a paying participant. Rev 2 will be great though. I really didn't want to believe the analogy between the rMB and the Rev 1/Rev 2 MBA but having used the machine for several days, I can easily make that case.

What was the main problem with the first MBA? I was a PC user back then and wasn't on these forums.

Was it the speed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE5vrdV6M4c
 
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Cons:

1) It's slow. I have a 13" 2.6/8/256 MBPr and comparatively loading apps like iMovie, calendar, "about this mac", etc has a pretty noticeable lag.

2) It feels heavier than everyone on YouTube is saying

3) It just doesn't seem powerful enough to really do anything with it except watch Netflix and take notes in class.

4) You know this'll be on eBay for 1/2 the price when gen 2 is out.

1. I'll bet the test unit was running 10.10.2 which is pretty laggy on this

2. Ok...

3. Plenty of us here have already been doing much more than Netflix and note taking with our MacBooks LOL!!

4. Even 5 year old Apple laptops don't drop to 50% of their retail price :rolleyes:
 
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Definitely NOT slow. I did a comparison using Lightroom with two tasks (1:1 preview build and export) that took about half an hour. Over a 1/2 hour file operation, the rMB was only 20% behind the rMBP. In real life use - Word, Excel, etc. - there is no difference at all, unless perhaps you are doing something like compiling the Pentagon budget. ;)
 
Maybe there are vast discrepancies in the actual speed of the models sold.
Rather than run hot, these things will just throttle until they're cool again.
Insufficient or badly applied thermal paste could be an issue.

IIRC, various early MBA series suffered from this.
 
My next door neighbor brought his new gold MB over for me to install some software and it could not even compare to my 2014 MBA 13 with an i7.

But then I would not expect it to do so. Lots of spinning beach ball, even doing simple things. I am sure it will get better in a few days but the Macbook's CPU is not it strong point. It will be a great computer for many just not the fastest performer.
 
Why do people keep ragging on the rMB's performance.

It's not a Pro laptop. Don't expect it to get Pro performance. It's meant to be a lifestyle product - something fun, light and easy to use - not something you do heavy work on it.

Know what you need. There's a reason Apple changed nothing else about their MacBook lineup.
 
Why do people keep ragging on the rMB's performance.

It's not a Pro laptop. Don't expect it to get Pro performance. It's meant to be a lifestyle product - something fun, light and easy to use - not something you do heavy work on it.

Know what you need. There's a reason Apple changed nothing else about their MacBook lineup.

people are not complaining about "pro" performance. People are complaining about general UI lag and stutters doing basically nothing.
 
Why do people keep ragging on the rMB's performance.

It's not a Pro laptop. Don't expect it to get Pro performance. It's meant to be a lifestyle product - something fun, light and easy to use - not something you do heavy work on it.

Know what you need. There's a reason Apple changed nothing else about their MacBook lineup.

I'm not using any Pro applications. I'm talking about resizing windows and scrolling websites. Things a $1700 computer should be able to do at least competently...I don't think I'm asking too much.

With the rMB, you're constantly made aware that you're using an underpowered computer. It's not something most of us are used to. I really feel like I'm using an old computer with a really nice screen and small form factor. The benchmarks said it was as fast as a 4 or 5 year old MacBook Air, and it feels every minute as old.
 
Hmmm... I tried it out at the Apple Store for a very short while, but I never noticed any serious lag issues. I'm still waiting for my 1.3/512 arrive, I'll try it out then and provide a more objective opinion.
 
With the rMB, you're constantly made aware that you're using an underpowered computer. It's not something most of us are used to. I really feel like I'm using an old computer with a really nice screen and small form factor.
This hits the nail on the head for me in terms of my concern and reminds me of when I got the first eeePC. It was fun for a few days having a super portable laptop but the specs pretty quickly caught up with me. Way back when I got the first gen iPad, I couldn't stop thinking of excuses just to pick it up and use it because it was such an amazing piece of kit. I didn't care that it was slow. But a laptop is familiar territory...if I got more than one spinning beach ball while using a brand new Apple laptop, I would be very disappointed and it would ruin the experience. That should just be a non-starter for any new laptop.
 
Really? So all the reviews and people on here saying it's great for basic tasks are just lying to themselves? I had a surface pro 3 with lower specs than the rMb and it worked great for one note, office and even some games.
 
I'll take a video and show you guys what I'm seeing.

I and, I'm sure, many others would really appreciate that, Ken. As a current owner of a rMBP awaiting arrival of a 1.3 rMB, I'm pretty concerned about the possibility of it not being fast enough to do the things I need it to at the speed I'd like them to be done, so a video demonstrating these issues would be very helpful.
 
I agree with Ken. No doubt, the new MB is quite a bit on the pokey side. I had to return mine, as sad I was was to do so, because it was a sexy machine. But I think it ultimately comes down to how Apple is doing scaling with their retina displays. I bet if the new MB had a low resolution display, like one that's on the MBA computers, it wouldn't feel nearly as slow. It would still be slow, relative to the rest of their lineup, but it wouldn't feel that slow.(of course, it wouldn't be nearly as appealing without a retina display)

It just amazes me that Apple is okay releasing products that make their beautiful animations look like crap. These are the same animations Steve got on stage and showed off, over, and over, and over again, almost to the point where it got awkward during the first preview of OS X. I can't imagine he would do the same today with the latest crop of hardware.

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That's interesting, my roommate's 2014 rMPB shows none of these issues, and he's on 10.10.3 as well.

What resolution is he running the screen at?
 
My next door neighbor brought his new gold MB over for me to install some software and it could not even compare to my 2014 MBA 13 with an i7.

But then I would not expect it to do so. Lots of spinning beach ball, even doing simple things. I am sure it will get better in a few days but the Macbook's CPU is not it strong point. It will be a great computer for many just not the fastest performer.

Every Mac I've ever used was slow and laggy for the first 24 hours or so.
 
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