Right. It wouldn't really be going back to what it's like in iOS 7, but basically expanding a bit how the quick reply/action model works in relation to notifications without previews in this first beta of iOS 8.
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Does anyone else think that iOS 8 is a letdown?
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Care to elaborate as I seem to believe I made valid claims in my post. This is a apple forum, more specifically a ios thread where people can discuss their feelings about ios 8.
Of course the androids guys pop in and bring their epic "android did it first" argument, in this specific case the 3rd party keyboards. I guess if you can say "android did it first" that also qualifies for what everyone says and android guys love to do it these days. So next time say something that's has actual meaning especially if you quote me and seem to not even understand the point I tried to make. #
There are real services for that, which you can pay for. I still don't understand why people think group video conferencing should be free.
Group video can work but it's CPU intensive and a bandwidth hog if implemented in a peer to peer way. i could be wrong, but Skype for example is mostly peer to peer and it shows when you have more then 2 people on a video feed. Google Hangouts I've had 9 people on it, and it seems to work very very well. But in Google Hangouts Google's servers seem to be processing the data and sending out only the active video feeds out.
The group video call feature isn't new territory. Apple did it before if not probably first with iChat back in the day. It's not that it can't be done, it's that doing it without putting the load on Apple's servers requires a ton of bandwidth and localized resources.
Exactly.....and now third party apps can communicate with each other. Apple didnt have to present anything mindblowing at this years WWDC, eventhough they did with Swift. But......understand whats going on here. You have the cleanest, most flawless OS, already with great apps. Now you are allowing its developers to essentially work together by building apps that talk to another developers app. Imagine what this is going to do to the iOS experience. Sure Android has been doing this for a while, but....thats Android. This is iOS. This is huge!
Essentially, this is the equivalent to iOS 2 and the creation of the app store was for me.
It's well beyond that though.
People who want to troll the forums may nitpick because the iPhone can't be a hoverboard now. But once developers like Dropbox, Instagram or based on some of the comments I've read today possibly Pinterest release something that uses the deep deep hooks that the OS uses everyone will love it.
iOS 8 has many great features. But the beauty of it is not skin deep.
The beauty of it comes when you can add a diagram from Omnigraffle (Stored in Omnipresence) from Microsoft Word, and the presentation of Omnigraffle is basically a remove view into the active Omnigraffle application. Or when someone who's looking for a job has 3 versions of their job application in OneDrive or Dropbox and are able to access it on Monster.
The changes are DEEP. Very deep.
Which is why it shouldn't be free. I'm not name dropping on this forum, but I work for a company that provides it. Its stable, requires very little bandwidth, and handles up to 16 A/V feeds at once.
I'd tend to agree. i truly do.
Other people's simplistic understanding of how this works is playing a large part on their expectations.
"i pay X amount for cable and can jump from channel to channel easily, man Apple is stupid" Well the expectation is based on a cable box jumping from literal channel to channel that are always streaming no matter what cause someone is always watching something.
i totally believe it will get there. If it's not there yet, it's because there isn't a delivery method that does it in a way that Facetime currently works.
i get the impression that either people are complaining because they like the attention, or Tim Cook is in a giant skull shaped mountain petting a cat screaming "WATCH THEM ALL DANCE FOR WHAT I HAVE TO GIVE NEXT"
Reality is much more grounded then that. But frame off of expectations of video that have been shaped since the 80's that have no relevance in an IP world
You'll be able to access widgets on home screen by swiping down don't forget. I prefer this implementation. Home screen for notifications, swipe down for widgets on today screen, swipe up for controls. Maybe you could have a favoured people widget too.
He's not wrong. What cell phone OS looked like iOS before the iPhone? None.
After? pretty much all of them.
Apple was the innovator, and other companies have added their own tweaks, for better or worse, to their own systems.
Anyone else read this article?
http://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...y-google-had-to-start-over-on-android/282479/
The short of it is that Google had to start over on Android when the original phone was announced.
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This alone justifies ios8
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They are wrong anyway, custom keyboards were in windows ce and windows mobile.
This alone justifies ios8
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They are wrong anyway, custom keyboards were in windows ce and windows mobile.
Being able to use it when you don't have "Show Preview" on
How are you supposed to reply to something you can't see?
It's a bit obvious isn't it... maybe you didn't read what I was responding to.
Every iOS device will not get TouchID.
I know just hate it when they than insult people without any meaning. Keyboards to me anyway is a tiny feature that is nice to have, but as u said continuity and handoff is what makes ios 8 awesome and that's actually a feature that I care about. Don't think android did that first #
I find this thread ironic when I was over on Reddit reading the Android forum and a whole bunch of people were saying they were impressed and thinking of switching...
That said, no, I didn't think it was a letdown. I actually think a lot of this stuff is pretty cool in comparison to the bootlogo mention and themeing. Timelapse and quick reply? Far cooler in comparison. So's the continuity stuff, since I'm a Mac/iPad user. Battery usage by app? Yes please. Location based notifications, yep.
Also, judging by the reactions from developers, it sounds like there are good things to come, too. So I'm pretty happy.
That said, no, I didn't think it was a letdown. I actually think a lot of this stuff is pretty cool in comparison to the bootlogo mention and themeing. Timelapse and quick reply? Far cooler in comparison. So's the continuity stuff, since I'm a Mac/iPad user. Battery usage by app? Yes please. Location based notifications, yep.
Also, judging by the reactions from developers, it sounds like there are good things to come, too.
So I'm pretty happy.That doesn't really account for being able to have notifications on the lock screen though.
Am I missing something? If preview is off, how do you know what to say as a reply in your quick response?
Or does the message show as you swipe down?
That's what they could adjust in the future that when you swipe down it would reveal the message and quick reply options.
App switching would be the correct term but phone, messages, email and music can run at the same time
I know where you are going with that but app switching is a bit too simplistic as well.
Applications can start up at opportunistic times based on usage, push notifications, timers, other tasks that are running at the same time that are related and etc. App Switching implies that its a bit of a dumb switch, but there is many many scenarios where it is actually multitasking. Not necessarily in the traditional sense though