Does anyone have more PowerPC Macs than I do?

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

I'll say this, as much as I enjoy using Tiger, using Snow Leopard has been so good so far. The Mac Pro whistles along without much in the way of problems and it's the most powerful Mac I've ever used. And to think it's the base model introduced in 2006!

I could easily step back into the G5 if I needed to, but I would miss Snow Leopard.

Did you send this to the incorrect person? Anyhow, I feel that Snow Leopard is one of the best MacOSX versions ever made. It's too bad that things are now starting to not support it. The thing I hate about Mavericks being a bust is that now Apple had to make that, plus a fix... that put Snow Leopard behind two more OSs in as little as a year or so... frustrating. The best versions of MacOSX in my opinion: Tiger, Leopard/Snow Leopard, and Mountain Lion.

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Anyone owning more than two Macs needs to send the rest of them to me. Then I will have all 'yall beat!

Speaking of old Macs: Do you know if e-waste centers in your area allow people to take things? (seeing as though people throw old Macs away all the time). Or, do you know any good places to find cheap, old Macs besides local Craigslist? I usually don't go out of my way and spend good money on old Macs, seeing as though I have a lot already, but I'll take something if I want it and it's a good price.

The reason is that I will be in Phoenix, AZ in a little over a month, and I want to see if I can score something. (since I have already exhausted sources in my own city).

 

[gr8tfly]

Not too many, now. Currently own:

PB G3 WallStreet 292MHz
PB G4 TiBook 667
PB G4 TiBook 667 (a second one)
PM 6100
PM 8600
PM G3 B&W
PM G4 933 MHz QuickSilver
iMac DV Lime

Owned and sold:
PB G4 TiBook 500 MHz (original TiBook)
PB G4 17" 1.67 GHz

To round things out on the obsolete end, I also have seven 68k machines. And a Newton 130 in a pear tree...

 

[bunnspecial]

Did you send this to the incorrect person? Anyhow, I feel that Snow Leopard is one of the best MacOSX versions ever made. It's too bad that things are now starting to not support it. The thing I hate about Mavericks being a bust is that now Apple had to make that, plus a fix... that put Snow Leopard behind two more OSs in as little as a year or so... frustrating. The best versions of MacOSX in my opinion: Tiger, Leopard/Snow Leopard, and Mountain Lion.

I'm not sure I'd agree with Mavericks being a "bust." I've been very happy with it, and so has everyone I know who has used it.

Feature wise, I actually like some of the changes. In particular, I like the fact that when working with multiple monitors, I can cycle between virtual desktops independently on the monitors in Mission Control. A lot of people hated that Mission Control replaced Spaces(and after using Spaces in 10.5 I can understand the preference) but IMO the independent cycling makes up for a LOT of the shortcomings of Mission Control.

I thought at first that I wouldn't like the message center and other iOS like features, but I have to say that I've really come to appreciate them. When an email or text comes in, the pop-up in the upper right hand corner lets me see if it's something I need to deal with immediately or if it can wait(and particularly with email, if I can trash it immediately) rather than having to grab my phone or switch desktops/use expose to open Mail or Messages.

I've had zero stability issues with Mavericks, and my impression is that-as a whole-it's a very solid OS.

Yosemite is a different story-I still can't get use to the "look" despite the fact that I've been using it on my Macbook(secondary computer) since Public Beta 2. I did download the default Tiger wallpaper and felt a lot more comfortable on it, as the dock is very Tiger like.

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

I'm not sure I'd agree with Mavericks being a "bust." I've been very happy with it, and so has everyone I know who has used it.

Feature wise, I actually like some of the changes. In particular, I like the fact that when working with multiple monitors, I can cycle between virtual desktops independently on the monitors in Mission Control. A lot of people hated that Mission Control replaced Spaces(and after using Spaces in 10.5 I can understand the preference) but IMO the independent cycling makes up for a LOT of the shortcomings of Mission Control.

I thought at first that I wouldn't like the message center and other iOS like features, but I have to say that I've really come to appreciate them. When an email or text comes in, the pop-up in the upper right hand corner lets me see if it's something I need to deal with immediately or if it can wait(and particularly with email, if I can trash it immediately) rather than having to grab my phone or switch desktops/use expose to open Mail or Messages.

I've had zero stability issues with Mavericks, and my impression is that-as a whole-it's a very solid OS.

Yosemite is a different story-I still can't get use to the "look" despite the fact that I've been using it on my Macbook(secondary computer) since Public Beta 2. I did download the default Tiger wallpaper and felt a lot more comfortable on it, as the dock is very Tiger like.

Then I guess older Apple computers had issues with it. (and by old, I don't mean super old. It seems really slow on the 2008 iMacs at my school). My brother disliked it on his 2008 8-core Mac Pro... I guess it's best for newer Apple computers. However, I am wondering why Apple just up and switched away from it, completely disregarding it. As for Yosemite, I cannot believe what they have done with it. However, hopefully it works nicely. And creative touch with the Tiger wallpaper xD. I guess while it looks odd, the dock can make PowerPC fans feel "at home".

 

[Anonymous Freak]

PowerPCs alone....

PM6100/66 DOS Compatible
PM6100/66 AV
PM7100/60
PM7100/66
PM7200/I don't remember
PM7500/G3 upgrade
PM7600/150
PM7300/200
PM8100/110
PM8500/110
WGS 7350

PB 540c w/ PPC Upgrade (Might be cheating, but it was an official Apple upgrade.)
PB 5300c
PB 5300c
PB 5300c
PB 5300ce
PB Duo 2300c
PB 1400cs
PB 1400cs

iMac rev.b
iMac SE 600 MHz
iMac G4

PMG3 DT
PMG3 MT
PMG3 B&W (although I owe this to someone else, it's still in my house.)
PMG4 Yikes
PMG4 DA
PMG4 Cube

PB G3 Lombard
PB G3 Lombard
PB G4 12"

That's 31 that I can think of off the top of my head. I hate to think about it, but I almost certainly have more. I'm pretty sure I have 2 of a couple of the Power Mac 7x00 series models, and one more PowerBook that is escaping me at the moment.

And you can add two more PowerPC systems that aren't Macs: IBM PC Power Edition and IBM ThinkPad Power Edition, if you want. Oh, and a Wii and two Xbox 360s.

 

[redhatcode29]

Me goodness...the e amount of Ppc macs you guys own!

I just have the below:

Mac mini G4
Power Mac sAwtooth
Power Mac QuickSilver
Power Mac MDD
PowerMac G5
Emac
ImaC G5 17"
Imac G4 15"
Imac G4 20"
Power Mac Cube

Would kill for an Imac G3!

 

[bse5150]

To round things out on the obsolete end, I also have seven 68k machines. And a Newton 130 in a pear tree...

I also have two 68k machines: Quadra 605, and a Quadra 700.

I just thought I'd mention that.

 

[eyoungren]

Speaking of old Macs: Do you know if e-waste centers in your area allow people to take things? (seeing as though people throw old Macs away all the time). Or, do you know any good places to find cheap, old Macs besides local Craigslist? I usually don't go out of my way and spend good money on old Macs, seeing as though I have a lot already, but I'll take something if I want it and it's a good price.

The reason is that I will be in Phoenix, AZ in a little over a month, and I want to see if I can score something. (since I have already exhausted sources in my own city).

No idea about the e-Waste stuff. Things tend to be a little wierd out here. Certain things can be recycled while other stuff is totally unregulated (Sharps containers full of used needles can go in the regular trash ). Because of that I've held on to electronic parts (even old dead ones) longer than I should have. Don't want to throw them away in the garbage, but too lazy to check out the eWaste options.

Not sure the e-cyclers would even let you take anything though.

If this had been ten years ago, I'd have said Goodwill and the Salvation Army, but Goodwill finally got smart and started cleaning up their stores. They aren't a dead computer dumping ground anymore and you can no longer find computers (even PCs) on their shelves.

The Salvation Army near me closed years ago. So, if I'm after anything, it's usually on eBay.

 

[eyoungren]

I'm not sure I'd agree with Mavericks being a "bust." I've been very happy with it, and so has everyone I know who has used it.

I'm not happy with it. It got rid of labels, which we use at work to make instant decisions about which ads are pickups, new or house ads.

And it wasn't until we got our new Windows 2012 Server that I realized the networking bug Mavericks has in it's implementation of SMB2. Nothing says irritation like trying to work on an InDesign file on the server that force closes InDesign every time you try to save. The only solution is to either connect via CIFS which forces the old SMB1 protocol (slower file transfers) or to disconnect from the server altogether and then reconnect. A real PITA when your have to reset your folders because Mavericks never remembers how you set them.

As to Lion and Mountail Lion, one of the more annoying things I hate that they introduced is the absolute minimum folder size you can make your folders and the fact that when you resize them it always draws the name column in with it. So, once you've resized the folder you have to move the column divider over because your folder and filenames now show elipses and not the entire name!

Honestly. Try and size a folder down to as small as you can get it using Lion, ML, Mav or Yosemite. You can't. So, now I have giant size folders taking up screen space on three monitors! Under Leopard I can make them much smaller.

Yosemite fixed the networking bug, but I still don't have labels and I cannot see those stupid colored tag balls. Also, I don't use Mail, so nothing ever shows up in the NC for me. I use Outlook 2011.

Feature wise, I actually like some of the changes. In particular, I like the fact that when working with multiple monitors, I can cycle between virtual desktops independently on the monitors in Mission Control. A lot of people hated that Mission Control replaced Spaces(and after using Spaces in 10.5 I can understand the preference) but IMO the independent cycling makes up for a LOT of the shortcomings of Mission Control.

I thought at first that I wouldn't like the message center and other iOS like features, but I have to say that I've really come to appreciate them. When an email or text comes in, the pop-up in the upper right hand corner lets me see if it's something I need to deal with immediately or if it can wait(and particularly with email, if I can trash it immediately) rather than having to grab my phone or switch desktops/use expose to open Mail or Messages.

I've had zero stability issues with Mavericks, and my impression is that-as a whole-it's a very solid OS.

Yosemite is a different story-I still can't get use to the "look" despite the fact that I've been using it on my Macbook(secondary computer) since Public Beta 2. I did download the default Tiger wallpaper and felt a lot more comfortable on it, as the dock is very Tiger like.

Not with you on the Spaces thing. Took a while to adjust and I still don't care for it.

Mav was stable for us, until Windows Server 2012 came along and showed us the bug in Mav's SMB2 implementation. Still hate tags.

About the only good thing I can say about Yosemite is that it fixed the networking bug.

 

[rikmac111]

What can you do with all those computers that I cannot do with my 3? lol

 

[jbarley]

What can you do with all those computers that I cannot do with my 3? lol

collect more dust!
take up more space!

 

[Hrududu]

collect more dust!
take up more space!

Haha, thats actually pretty accurate.

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

No idea about the e-Waste stuff. Things tend to be a little wierd out here. Certain things can be recycled while other stuff is totally unregulated (Sharps containers full of used needles can go in the regular trash ). Because of that I've held on to electronic parts (even old dead ones) longer than I should have. Don't want to throw them away in the garbage, but too lazy to check out the eWaste options.

Not sure the e-cyclers would even let you take anything though.

If this had been ten years ago, I'd have said Goodwill and the Salvation Army, but Goodwill finally got smart and started cleaning up their stores. They aren't a dead computer dumping ground anymore and you can no longer find computers (even PCs) on their shelves.

The Salvation Army near me closed years ago. So, if I'm after anything, it's usually on eBay.

Wow... all of that is sad to hear. I can remember several years ago when there was some dumping ground out in the middle of the desert, and it had e-waste that people had used for target practice. Well, hopefully I get lucky and find either a yard sale or just some odd happening.

 

[bunnspecial]

Not exactly sure what I'm getting, but I just made a deal for at least a dozen G3 and G4 towers on Craigslist(plus a bunch of parts I'm told). It's a mixture of MDDs, Quicksilvers, graphite cases, and B&Ws. There are some pretty decent spec machines in the bunch, and I think at least one Sawtooth so that should check that box for me

I'm going to Cincinnatti tomorrow or Tuesday to get them. That will put me close to the OP although I may not end up keeping all of them. I'll report back once I've picked them up and and inventory what exactly I have.

I've been guilty of using Dells for target practice, but would never use a Mac for that

Here's what a 16 gauge slug can do to a Dell case(that's the big hole at the lower right-the rest are 38 specials).

Interestingly enough, we ripped the CPU out of the socket with a couple of well-placed shots to the heatsink(which dented it but did not go through) but didn't manage to bend a single pin on it . After doing so, we propped it up on top of the case, but none of us were able to do any damage to the CPU. I guess those P4s were tough!

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

What can you do with all those computers that I cannot do with my 3? lol

Yep, same thing as Hrududu said: Sit and collect dust! xD I personally have my Macs on display, but then again, many still don't get used. These days have probably passed, but I would sometimes pick one out, turn it on, and play with it. There are a select few that I still used/used for some time. I once used my 500Mhz graphite iMac G3, with 512MB RAM, as my main computer for several months in 2011. As for my iMac G5s, the original one was my first Mac, and the iSight was a later upgrade from it. I take my 800Mhz iBook G4 on the go, as I don't feel like risking and possible damage to my MacBook Pro.

I got the PowerMac G5 recently, and it's my main desktop, besides the iSight iMac G5. etc, etc, etc.

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

Not exactly sure what I'm getting, but I just made a deal for at least a dozen G3 and G4 towers on Craigslist(plus a bunch of parts I'm told). It's a mixture of MDDs, Quicksilvers, graphite cases, and B&Ws. There are some pretty decent spec machines in the bunch, and I think at least one Sawtooth so that should check that box for me

I'm going to Cincinnatti tomorrow or Tuesday to get them. That will put me close to the OP although I may not end up keeping all of them. I'll report back once I've picked them up and and inventory what exactly I have.

I've been guilty of using Dells for target practice, but would never use a Mac for that

Here's what a 16 gauge slug can do to a Dell case(that's the big hole at the lower right-the rest are 38 specials).

Interestingly enough, we ripped the CPU out of the socket with a couple of well-placed shots to the heatsink(which dented it but did not go through) but didn't manage to bend a single pin on it . After doing so, we propped it up on top of the case, but none of us were able to do any damage to the CPU. I guess those P4s were tough!

That will be cool, do you have a link to the Craigslist post? I'd be interested in seeing it. (I won't go there before you and snatch it xD I live in another state) Also, did you post pictures of the shot-up Dells? I didn't see any.

We actually shot up a huge, 1999 Gateway tower. We then smashed it with a rock so large that it took three people to carry. Very fun... and it's sitting out in the middle of the desert as we speak. (gotta clean it up next time I am there). I have a handful of older Windows PCs that I really need to get rid of, but I feel bad throwing them away, as they all work fine. They DO have their uses, but mostly take up space and bring my computer tally up. 34 is just my number of PowerPC Macs; these Windows PCs (plus non-PowerPC Macs) bring it to about 75.

 

[bunnspecial]

That will be cool, do you have a link to the Craigslist post? I'd be interested in seeing it. (I won't go there before you and snatch it xD I live in another state) Also, did you post pictures of the shot-up Dells? I didn't see any.

Not sure what happened, as I could have sworn I uploaded them. In any case, here they are.

I also have a growing stack of dead hard drives that I'm going to try and haul out to the range in the next week or two.

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

Not sure what happened, as I could have sworn I uploaded them. In any case, here they are.

I also have a growing stack of dead hard drives that I'm going to try and haul out to the range in the next week or two.

Haha, nice. It's cool how mangled the insides become. I opened up the door on ours just a crack, and part fragments just poured out.

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PowerPCs alone....

PM6100/66 DOS Compatible
PM6100/66 AV
PM7100/60
PM7100/66
PM7200/I don't remember
PM7500/G3 upgrade
PM7600/150
PM7300/200
PM8100/110
PM8500/110
WGS 7350

PB 540c w/ PPC Upgrade (Might be cheating, but it was an official Apple upgrade.)
PB 5300c
PB 5300c
PB 5300c
PB 5300ce
PB Duo 2300c
PB 1400cs
PB 1400cs

iMac rev.b
iMac SE 600 MHz
iMac G4

PMG3 DT
PMG3 MT
PMG3 B&W (although I owe this to someone else, it's still in my house.)
PMG4 Yikes
PMG4 DA
PMG4 Cube

PB G3 Lombard
PB G3 Lombard
PB G4 12"

That's 31 that I can think of off the top of my head. I hate to think about it, but I almost certainly have more. I'm pretty sure I have 2 of a couple of the Power Mac 7x00 series models, and one more PowerBook that is escaping me at the moment.

And you can add two more PowerPC systems that aren't Macs: IBM PC Power Edition and IBM ThinkPad Power Edition, if you want. Oh, and a Wii and two Xbox 360s.

So it looks like we have you with 31 PPC Macs and Hrududu with 31 as well. Looks like we have three top spots here.

 

[bunnspecial]

Haha, nice. It's cool how mangled the insides become. I opened up the door on ours just a crack, and part fragments just poured out.

I wish I'd taken more photos of the insides after we were done.

The 38 specials were my own low-powered handloads with soft swaged lead bullets, and most of them actually mushroomed out and ended up littering the bottom of the case when they hit anything substantial(like the heatsink). A few of those shots were also from a high powered rifle(either a Mosin-Nagant or a 270) and they generally just zipped through without doing much more than poking a clean hole. The magnum handguns(357 magnum and 44 magnum, specifically) seemed to do the most damage as they mostly managed to fully penetrate, but were big and slow enough by the time they did so that they left a lot of damage in their wake.

We also shot up an old laptop that same day, which I unfortunately didn't photograph. I unloaded about 50 rounds of 32-20 into it(at least up here in the hills of Kentucky, the 32-20 has a legendary but probably unfounded reputation for penetration) and it did at least manage to poke some nice holes through the battery and and hard drive. Like the desktop, the high powered rifles just drilled through without leaving a whole lot of damage.

Hopefully, the next time I go to the range with this same person, he'll cough up a few more dead Dells to send to their grave

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

I wish I'd taken more photos of the insides after we were done.

The 38 specials were my own low-powered handloads with soft swaged lead bullets, and most of them actually mushroomed out and ended up littering the bottom of the case when they hit anything substantial(like the heatsink). A few of those shots were also from a high powered rifle(either a Mosin-Nagant or a 270) and they generally just zipped through without doing much more than poking a clean hole. The magnum handguns(357 magnum and 44 magnum, specifically) seemed to do the most damage as they mostly managed to fully penetrate, but were big and slow enough by the time they did so that they left a lot of damage in their wake.

We also shot up an old laptop that same day, which I unfortunately didn't photograph. I unloaded about 50 rounds of 32-20 into it(at least up here in the hills of Kentucky, the 32-20 has a legendary but probably unfounded reputation for penetration) and it did at least manage to poke some nice holes through the battery and and hard drive. Like the desktop, the high powered rifles just drilled through without leaving a whole lot of damage.

Hopefully, the next time I go to the range with this same person, he'll cough up a few more dead Dells to send to their grave

Haha, I can just imagine sticking the towers' metal side doors in the ground and writing "Here lies DELL"

 

[bunnspecial]

Haha, I can just imagine sticking the towers' metal side doors in the ground and writing "Here lies DELL"

Very tempting, although since I'm usually doing this sort of stuff on private land where the owner is nice enough to let me come in the first place, I try to leave no evidence of being there.

Another friend and I have been discussing what it's going to take to fully get through a hard drive. He's been trying to hunt down some surplus armor piercing 8mm Mauser ammo, although I'm inclined to think that a standard 8mm FMJ(r 7.62x54r or even 30-06, all in FMJ form) would likely do the job.

For myself, since I'm a handgun guy, I've been working up some hardcast lead loads for 357 Magnum that I'm hoping will at least get most of the way through. Unfortunately, my last attempt with a 170gr Keith-type bullet led to me having to use a dowel rod and hammer to get the spend cases out, so I might need to dial it down a bit (I have a Smith and Wesson model 19 on layaway. These have a longer cylinder than any of my other 357 magnums that will let me load those bullets out an extra 1/10 of an inch or so in the case and cut the pressure down a bit with the same powder charge).

 

[Bug-Creator]

High on my list is a Cube as well as a G4 Quad.

Typo ?


My shortlist:

1.8 PowerBook 5.9 (missing the display for the spare so I substracted 0.2
0.5 PowerBook 5.5 (just some leftover parts that I not needed elsewhere)
1 iBook G4, 12" 1.33GHz
2.5-4 PowerMac G4 QuickSilver (no idea how many working units I could piece together)
1 PowerMac G5 AGP 2x2.3GHz
1 iMac G5 iSight,20" 2.1GHz

Non
- Efika5200B
- Pegasos2 G4

 

[weckart]

PB 1400c
PB 5300ce
PB 3400c
PB G3 PDQ x2
PB G3 Pismo x3
12" iBook G3 CS x2
14" iBook G3
12" iBook G4
15" TiBook G4 x3
12" PB G4
15" PB G4
17" PB G4
17" iMac G4 x2
QS 2002 x2
Powermac G5
Mac Mini G4 x2

Got my eye on a couple more next week.

 

[matts1501]

The Real Question

Here's the real question: How many of these are still being used regularly?

Here's my list of the PowerPC Macs that I still have for daily use:

Power Mac G5 2.5 (dual core) - x3
Power Mac G5 2.3 - x2
Power Mac G5 1.8
Power Mac G5 1.6
20" iMac G5 2.1 - x2
17" iMac G5 1.6
Mac Mini G4 1.33
Mac Mini G4 1.25 - x2

All running 10.4 with Classic. All a result of supporting legacy accounting software.

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

Here's the real question: How many of these are still being used regularly?

Here's my list of the PowerPC Macs that I still have for daily use:

Power Mac G5 2.5 (dual core) - x3
Power Mac G5 2.3 - x2
Power Mac G5 1.8
Power Mac G5 1.6
20" iMac G5 2.1 - x2
17" iMac G5 1.6
Mac Mini G4 1.33
Mac Mini G4 1.25 - x2

All running 10.4 with Classic. All a result of supporting legacy accounting software.

I do use some regularly and have used others in the past. Hmm, have you ever had trouble with your liquid-cooled G5s? I see many of the dual models for sale, and I wonder how they are all said to be working fine.