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a few things should be noted here:

1.the apple usb powered superdrive is actually smaller than one single bluray disc case.
2.I am a pro user and do plenty of work in the field and would gladly have the internal SD pulled in order to speed up my machine or give me more battery life in the field.
3. seriously.......smaller than 1 single bluray disc case.
4. I do understand the plight of some pro users that have to deal with clients that expect stuff like blurays being burned instantly in the middle of the woods in south dakota in the winter.
5. People really take like a bag full of dvds on a plane with them? lulz
6.smaller than a single bluray disc case.

What do you do thats "Pro" besides get on the forum and complain about Apple and make a thread thats already been discussed thoroughly multiple times before...
 
I never said you don't have a "right" to buy a MacBook Pro, but your "right" does not make you "correct" for everyone.

Just like you have a "right" to buy a Ferrari, that doe not mean that Farrari's race drivers should respect your opinion when you demand the next gen Farari's be slower, taller, and have a hatchback because you only use it to haul firewood in the back yard.

Again, I have no statistics in front of me, but I believe that you are the one in the back yard with firewood, not me.
 
Anyhow didn't mean to come off as insulting (too much :) ) but many of us depend of these machines for our livelihood, and they are the best machines to do so. We would just like them to stay so and not cater to people who should really be using something else but want to look cool.

I think everyone realizes that there are pros who need on site disc burning....like the work you do...however, let me list the people/groups I know who do NOT need need on site disc burning at all times.

-musician: does most of his composing and burning at home/the studio vs on site.
-website/graphic designer: again, works from home or coffee shop, emails his work.
-physician: edits video, presentations on the go
-photographer: shoots on site, then edits and burns at home
-programmer: Not sure, but I've never heard him talk about burning a disc.

I don't know what you do, it sounds like on-site music work or music videos. I'm certainly not belitteling your need (hell, I wish I got to go to a horse ranch for music/video). But the people I know who use MBPs, including myself, do need a lot of the capabilities it provides and would still rather have the ODD at home....since its not part of our workflow.

Its a tricky situation, but not ALL the people who want to kick out the disc drive are college kids trying to "look cool"...some are people who would rather have a lighter pro, better cooling so we can have 4 or 6 core processors, more storage, better graphics cards over the ODD.

OT but I wish disc drives were built into printers or copy machines. Then I could burn at home or at work without having a separate device all the time.
 
I think everyone realizes that there are pros who need on site disc burning....like the work you do...however, let me list the people/groups I know who do NOT need need on site disc burning at all times.

-musician: does most of his composing and burning at home/the studio vs on site.
-website/graphic designer: again, works from home or coffee shop, emails his work.
-physician: edits video, presentations on the go
-photographer: shoots on site, then edits and burns at home
-programmer: Not sure, but I've never heard him talk about burning a disc.

I don't know what you do, it sounds like on-site music work or music videos. I'm certainly not belitteling your need (hell, I wish I got to go to a horse ranch for music/video). But the people I know who use MBPs, including myself, do need a lot of the capabilities it provides and would still rather have the ODD at home....since its not part of our workflow.

Its a tricky situation, but not ALL the people who want to kick out the disc drive are college kids trying to "look cool"...some are people who would rather have a lighter pro, better cooling so we can have 4 or 6 core processors, more storage, better graphics cards over the ODD.

OT but I wish disc drives were built into printers or copy machines. Then I could burn at home or at work without having a separate device all the time.

Thats why I like the build to order option the best... Sadly it'll never happen though.
 
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Your the one who only seems to use it for solitaire as you said.

I'm the one wanting the ODD gone and I believe I'm the majority.
 
For me it's either ship it with Blu-ray or remove the optical drive.

This, right here.

Majority on this forum maybe.
But certainly not the majority when you add in all the normal consumers who buy a MBP.

Most "normal consumers" don't have much use for an internal optical drive either. Pretty much everything they use them for can easily be accomplished with an external. Do they suddenly need to rip a CD while walking to class or something?
 
The only reason I would accept for there NOT to be an opti drive....is if there is a harddrive in its place and an SSD drive (by default) in the harddrives place. Just sayin'
 
I'm sure if they made a keychain to put your mac on people would wear it..just so they can show them off! Why are so many fanboiz like this heh.
 
Amen to that.

Dump the dvd drive.

Add an SSD or flash and we are in business.

And most def go with flash, since it's cheaper for bigger capacities than regular SSD's - and you still get 2-3x faster speeds than conventional HD's
 
And most def go with flash, since it's cheaper for bigger capacities than regular SSD's - and you still get 2-3x faster speeds than conventional HD's

Then you'll all post another 1000 threads about Apple raising the price of the MBP $200-300 because you all want an SSD. Heres a thought, optibay and ssd.
 
I think it's a tiny bit early. You have the DVD software market still hanging on to a big share. You still need it to install a Windows operating system. (Yeah, it's limited use for Mac, but I think it's still a big market of late Mac adopters who bought it because it can also run Windows).

Movies are still highly distributed via DVD. Even netflix has the issue of having a lot of its library being DVD-only. Sure, there are DVD players, but a lot of people still use computers for that. Then there's the amount of software that still uses a *leave disk in drive* dongle for stuff.

Outside of a controlled mobile distribution system like the App Store, nobody successfully managed to make all software on a given platform, digitally distributed. Sony even failed to do that, though they wanted to and tried.

Of course, for the MBP, one of the biggest reasons for owning one is the Pro software. They were practically built for that. However, with the exception of the smallest ones (like Aperture), most of them are well beyond current Digital Distribution capacities. We're talking 9 DVD packages, and then some.
 
I actually do. I would rather they put a single slice toaster in its place than an optical drive.


Do people still use DVDs and if so, what for?


DO you believe that this form of media is becoming obsolete?



White or wheat toast?

Wheat toast for health and taste


I would miss the DVD drive. I watch movies when I travel. I'd much rather see a BTO option to have either battery, DVD drive, or extra HD/SSD in that space.

It would also make it more difficult to update software. Apple isn't going to start allowing downloads of OSx so they will still need the DVD drive for new releases. DVD is still the cheapest physical media for software installs.

.... why do you need at least 500gb?

I don't need the DVD drive for movies on the go because I would rather rip them to my hard drive. However, this is also an argument against only having an SSD, because the cost per gigabyte is too high to use an SSD that is large enough to house my multimedia (music, movies, pictures) and work data (databases). Thus the only way I can see Apple eliminating the optical drive is if they go to USB keys for OS X installation and they choose to include both an SSD for booting/programs and a hard drive for data.

I use the DVD drive often (using it right now) but I could survive without one. Then again, I'm not planning on buying another Mac for a while.

I use the SuperDrive for watching DVDs I own. I also listen to classical music and often prefer to purchase CD sets (like Beethoven's Complete Piano Sonatas I got last month) and rip them for use with iTunes, etc. I also archive files to DVD occasionally. I do not want this eliminated.

do you burn CDs from sessions? Hasnt the industry basically proved to itself that CD is dead? I do audio production as well and I would rather see it go away. external is fine with me....

I use my disc drive often, too; for example, to burn a software update for my parents or as an archive for later reinstallation (if necessary) or to rip a CD into iTunes.


I hate to say it but yeah..I think an external super drive should be included with all MBP's though if they do that. Idk what I would want in place..I'd rather have just one nice big SSD than two to be honest. probably an extended battery or something.

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As long as they lower the price on both the MBP and the SuperDrive

...Apple is going to make you pay extra for something as basic as a DVD drive that every laptop has and needs ( an external drive if the DVD drive is removed )....


I agree. I have never seen Apple lower prices after removing a "feature;" however if Apple removes the internal optical drive, they will (inevitably) charge for an external drive, just as they now charge for the Apple remote and various cable adapters that at one time were included free with each Mac.


I just used the optical drive today because I had to repair my startup disk, which required the Mac OS X install DVD....

...And how are you go install software without a DVD drive? ( legal ofcourse )

All of those things would still be doable with an external drive.

...The downside is not being able to do these things while traveling unless you want to haul the external DVD around. So ask yourself how much you use the DVD drive while traveling. Many people will not want this drive to go away...and I can't say I blame them. Apple would be wise to offer this as a BTO option before making the leap....

External drives function the same as internal drives, but they lack the mobility factor. Why have to carry one more accessory?

Another problem is raised with regard to exchanging information with colleagues. USB drives are okay for some information, but optical discs are easier and more common. Also, doesn't OS X write files to every USB drive? Isn't this a security issue, especially if your colleagues use Windows which shows the invisible files OS X writes to the USB drive?


Out with the optical drive in with the GPU

Apple would be able to use better GPUs without eliminating the optical drive, if they weren't so obsessed with thin. To my knowledge, the limiting factor in the use of GPUs is the thermal dynamics of the laptop. I doubt the optical drive has much to do with the thermal specs of notebooks.
 
So what happens when you want/need to install Windows? FYI if you haven't tried, you cant install Windows from usb or external dvd drive... So if Apple wants to continue to have the customers that need Windows also, they will have to write the Mac firmware to allow usb/external cd drive Windows installations...

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2298

Looks like they've taken care of that for the MBA so modifying it for the MBP shouldn't be too hard.

Too bad there is no support for Windows operating systems prior to Win XP SP2. This puts those who have XP SP1 in a bad position, especially the less technically inclined who do not know how to slipstream. I would not appreciate losing my ability to create Win 95/98 VMs, either, even if they are only for fun.
 
This, right here.



Most "normal consumers" don't have much use for an internal optical drive either. Pretty much everything they use them for can easily be accomplished with an external. Do they suddenly need to rip a CD while walking to class or something?

Actually some of us students need the optical drive - I have had to rip footage from CDs and DVDs while sat down in a corner with no power, and with no space to sit and optical drive, and had to take footage onto a laptop to be edited there and then into a Rough Cut.
 
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