But I'm assuming you never break a law... never downloaded a single mp3... never installed software on your machine you haven't paid for...never cross a traffic light just as it's changed?
We don't start MacRumors threads about it.
But I'm assuming you never break a law... never downloaded a single mp3... never installed software on your machine you haven't paid for...never cross a traffic light just as it's changed?
No. What I'm getting at is that by going in store and making a purchase with a discount, the policies written on a website do not apply unless they are also written or mentioned while making a purchase in the store. It's not a technicality at all.
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I can't come back and say "oh, you should have read the website" for the details of the in-store purchase policies. Even if the website said "in-store policies", the policies would actually have to be printed or referred to in-store and you would have to agree to them in some way at the time of purchase.
If you claim to be a student, in order to get a computer at a lower price than non-students, while knowing that you are not actually a student, that is fraud. If you truthfully tell the shop that you stopped being a student say five days ago, and the shop agrees to give you the lower student price, that is not fraud. The question of the thread title "Does Apple have any way of confirming university student status?" makes it quite clear that the former was intended.
Are you sure? As long as we're playing hypothetical...I am not a student and I buy a computer using the edu discount...now according to you, b/c i didnt read a written copy of the agreement in advance, i cannot be charged back the extra that i ganked? if they send me a bill, i can just ignore it b/c i didn't read the agreement?
in my interpretation, if you are buying w/ edu discount = you are agreeing to edu policies.
The Apple website has the policies, but these policies do not automatically apply in a physical store just because they're on Apple's website. The store might have the same policy, but you would have to agree to it somehow while making the purchase.
ben.mcmahan said:But again (exasperated at this point), the point of my post was to emphasize the self-policing nature of the policy...i.e. i think they figure most people dont abuse the policy, so we keep on, keeping on.
I don't know if the physical stores actually have the same policy. But yes, it should be clear that the policies on Apple's website do not apply in a physical store unless Apple says somehow in-store that they apply. You cannot be expected to agree to a policy on a website without being "told" that you are agreeing to those policies. (I say "told" because it could be referred to in a way that most consumers would not read it - for example in small print)
Apple may have similar policies in-store, but if you made an in-store purchase and actually read everything you agreed to (if anything at all), you'd know or not whether they had such policies. And this is what I want to know: when making an in-store purchase, do you actually sign a piece of paper or otherwise agree that you agree to policies like those described on Apple's website website?
Just got the ed discount in-store yesterday cause I'm a k-12 and the answer is no. I signed nothing that stated I agree to the policies. It is just in the fine print in terms and conditions online-if one seeks it out.
-cfs
I just called the Apple Store at The Grove in LA. They said "no issue whatsoever" for someone who recently graduated to get the Student discount/promotion.
*I* graduated in January...and he said, "that's pushing it, but should be ok".
So...APPLE SAYS...**YOU** ARE WRONG! I guess Apple is devoid of ethics in your opinion.
You and Robbie should PM each other. If both of you are single...maybe you can hook up! Finding someone with your superior ethical standards can be quite challenging these days.
Seriously, the OP deserves an apology from some of you.
What months is the academic year? I bought a MBP in February using my student discount, how long until I can buy another notebook using the education discount again? I know it's limited to one notebook per academic year, so is it from august to july or from september or when exactly?
Why is it harsh? If you asked for advice on intentionally defrauding an individual would you expect a "nice" answer? This is really no different. If you want to commit a crime then that's fine, but don't expect my support or sympathy if you get caught.
The OP doesn't deserve an apology because Robbie isn't wrong. The rules are clearly stated, and the OP was willing to defraud Apple well before he (and you) knew Apple was rather lenient with that and be OK with it.
I'm not saying what I would do regarding the purchase, or my opinion on fraud. I personally don't care too much about the strictness of rules, as long as they're sort of followed (i.e.: who cares if you buy a computer 1 day after you graduate?). All I'm saying is that Robbie isn't technically wrong, he has a point, and many of you who are making excuses to justify fraud, and are also saying "See, Apple agrees!" are really just lucky that by page 3, someone found out that Apple was lenient on the policy of recent grads getting the discount. If Apple said recent grads weren't allowed the discount, I'm sure the justifications for defrauding Apple would be exactly the same, and the people who would do it would do so regardless of what Apple thinks.
From July to July the following year. You can buy a laptop and a desktop, but you can't buy 3 MacBooks, an iMac, and a Mac Pro. They don't really expect any student to buy more than 1 laptop and 1 desktop per year.
I'm buying an iMac soon, and I went to the Apple store for my former college (graduated two weeks ago) and saw that the 24" iMac (which is what I'm looking at getting) is $100 cheaper there than the regular store. Saving that $100 would be great, plus I could use that to make a couple upgrades to the computer.
I see that you're in Vienna. I would suggest making a trip to the Tysons Corner store if you wish to purchase in person. They are (or at least were) fairly lax. If you can log into your school email account, they will most likely honor the student discount.