Does apple try to force customers to enable iCloud against their will?

[MrAverigeUser]

It seems that Apple wants to force their customers to enable iCloud:

Already the updates of two different iPhones from 7.1.2 to 9.2.1 and one iPhone 5s from 8.4 one month ago stopped with the step of enabling/disabling iCloud:

The "button" for activation is much larger than that of disactivation and the latter is at the very lowest point. That is not all: The space between the two "buttons" is very little - so you must really be careful if you want to tap on "Desactivation" .

This is topped by the fact that already one month ago the "button" to disactivate iCloud was NON_RESPONSIVE for at least 30-60 seconds. I tapped like a fool and NOTHING happened - while ALL other steps concerning other things than iCloud were perfectly responding!
This was all the same with all THREE different iPhones, so a hardware-problem can be absolutely excluded.

Today, it was even worst: The "button" was NON-RESPONSIV for at least 5 minutes!
Be aware: You have NO CHANCE to bypass this step.

After at least 5 minutes and getting more and more angry about apple playing the blacklister card it finally worked.

I find this really scandalous since I refuse any Cloud service and strictly backup only locally.

VERY BAD POLICY, apple !!!

 

[kch50428]

I find this really scandalous since I refuse any Cloud service and strictly backup only locally.

I've been quite content to have iCloud to fall back on when my local backups got hosed by a failed hard drive...but that's just me... I'm weird that way.

 

[Armen]

I've been quite content to have iCloud to fall back on when my local backups got hosed by a failed hard drive...but that's just me... I'm weird that way.

why is that even remotely weird? I use iCloud for ALL my backups except photos. I use google photos for that.

 

[aristobrat]

We don't setup any of our iOS test devices to use iCloud (and we're regularly wiping them, so running thorough iOS setup is something we do a lot). Haven't noticed any delay like you have. Maybe it's a regional thing.

 

[MrAverigeUser]

We don't setup any of our iOS test devices to use iCloud (and we're regularly wiping them, so running thorough iOS setup is something we do a lot). Haven't noticed any delay like you have. Maybe it's a regional thing.

Maybe it´s regional, but I doubt that to be.
At least the UI for the step leads you to ENABLE by the placement of the "buttons" - that ewas the first thing i got "astonished" about and the delay made me really agree.

I am situated in Europe - so it might be also just a simple delay of transatlantic data transfer, I don´t know. It is also for that reason that I am interested whether this delay of reaction is widespread or not.

The GUI of this step is nevertheless at least to say very manipulative … no good customer policy.
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We don't setup any of our iOS test devices to use iCloud (and we're regularly wiping them, so running thorough iOS setup is something we do a lot). Haven't noticed any delay like you have. Maybe it's a regional thing.

So you have the same security priorities as me - but I never wiped iCloud.
I think this is a good idea.
Can you tell me how to do that without risking to non-volontarily activating it or so?
Thanks in advance.

 

[C DM]

We don't setup any of our iOS test devices to use iCloud (and we're regularly wiping them, so running thorough iOS setup is something we do a lot). Haven't noticed any delay like you have. Maybe it's a regional thing.

Yup, petty much the same here--no issues with easily selecting not to use iCloud or easily enabling or disabling it when needed.

 

[MrAverigeUser]

Yup, petty much the same here--no issues with easily selecting not to use iCloud or easily enabling or disabling it when needed.

so - perhaps it is indeed just the data transfer (= contacting iCloud service) which causes the delay from Europe?

On the other hand I actually cannot imagine that any iCloud contact (even from Europe) has a delay of at least 30 seconds up to some minutes…. particularly since there are iCloud services at least in Ireland...
Would be interesting if other non-US-Users than me could share their experiences with me.

 

[Yun0]

no. its fine

 

[bbrks]

Perfectly fine also.....I use iCloud since the beginning, never had any problem with it.....

 

[bcave098]

Maybe it´s regional, but I doubt that to be.
At least the UI for the step leads you to ENABLE by the placement of the "buttons" - that ewas the first thing i got "astonished" about and the delay made me really agree.

I am situated in Europe - so it might be also just a simple delay of transatlantic data transfer, I don´t know. It is also for that reason that I am interested whether this delay of reaction is widespread or not.

The GUI of this step is nevertheless at least to say very manipulative … no good customer policy.

Just like everything else in the set-up assistant, it leads you to enable the default settings. The best example is a passcode, it makes you choose "Passcode Options" to disable the feature. Nothing in the set-up assistant is "forced", except maybe having to join a Wi-Fi network.

 

[crashoverride77]

It seems that Apple wants to force their customers to enable iCloud:

Already the updates of two different iPhones from 7.1.2 to 9.2.1 and one iPhone 5s from 8.4 one month ago stopped with the step of enabling/disabling iCloud:

The "button" for activation is much larger than that of disactivation and the latter is at the very lowest point. That is not all: The space between the two "buttons" is very little - so you must really be careful if you want to tap on "Desactivation" .

This is topped by the fact that already one month ago the "button" to disactivate iCloud was NON_RESPONSIVE for at least 30-60 seconds. I tapped like a fool and NOTHING happened - while ALL other steps concerning other things than iCloud were perfectly responding!
This was all the same with all THREE different iPhones, so a hardware-problem can be absolutely excluded.

Today, it was even worst: The "button" was NON-RESPONSIV for at least 5 minutes!
Be aware: You have NO CHANCE to bypass this step.

After at least 5 minutes and getting more and more angry about apple playing the blacklister card it finally worked.

I find this really scandalous since I refuse any Cloud service and strictly backup only locally.

VERY BAD POLICY, apple !!!

Another one of this I don't trust the cloud so I prefer to live like the 90s.
Not using iCloud on iPhones literally cuts the user experience in half. Of course Apple wants people to turn it on by default.

 

[NT1440]

so - perhaps it is indeed just the data transfer (= contacting iCloud service) which causes the delay from Europe?

On the other hand I actually cannot imagine that any iCloud contact (even from Europe) has a delay of at least 30 seconds up to some minutes…. particularly since there are iCloud services at least in Ireland...
Would be interesting if other non-US-Users than me could share their experiences with me.

Just so you are aware, Apple has servers all over the planet to serve the regions they are located in. I guarantee you that there is one in Europe

 

[wacky4alanis]

I've never used iCloud, and I've never had any difficulty turning it off during the initial phone setup after major upgrades.

 

[lolkthxbai]

OP posted the same thing in another thread here and I responded. Since you decided to make a new thread about it I'll repost my reply again here:

iCloud is more likely to help you rather than hurt you. But you're right, you can choose to not use iCloud. However, it's very doubtful that Apple purposely disabled a button to force you to use iCloud. I haven't had that issue at all when I do my updates and I do all my encrypted backups on iTunes. You're probably just experiencing a bug during the setup process. Just chill