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Does iPhone do these things yet?

andythursby said:
you miss my point, where you are doesn't matter, you're still dropping signal. just in an area with very strong signal it's not visible on the limited display on the iPhone , but if you go into field test mode, you'd see the drop, it drops EVERYWHERE with death grip, ergo location is not a factor, that's like saying having it turned on is a factor....
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You're missing the point I think he's making and I don't mean to speak for him.

Location is a factor. But the issue transcends location (only) as an issue.
 
people who "think" there is no antennae problem are just plain ignorant. I couldn't get the bars to drop no matter how hard I tired on my 3GS but can do it no problem on the i4. But yeah, there's no problem. When I first came to this site I never understood the fanboy saying but its people like that, that deny the obvious problems because they dont want to believe apple did anything wrong.
 
I don't have an iPhone 4 but my boyfriend does and he has the latest official update on it.

He got his about a month after launch and it has the antenna issue. The bumper case completely solves the issue and if you get this phone you will definitely want some sort of a case anyway. It is so slippery and smooth that before he got the case, he would put it on a flat surface (counter, table) and if someone would call him, it would vibrate right off of the surface. And I don't even mean from the edge...it would move like a foot. The bumper case also solves this problem.

The proximity sensor has not been fixed for him. He has accidentally muted me, made other calls, and hung up on me and all three of these things happen quite often even after he has updated.
 
samcraig said:
You're missing the point I think he's making and I don't mean to speak for him.

Location is a factor. But the issue transcends location (only) as an issue.
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if signal drops everywhere, how is location a factor? like i said, just cos you cannot see it drop on the bars on the top in a really strong signal area, you can see the drop in field test mode which shows more accurate figures..
 
andythursby said:
if signal drops everywhere, how is location a factor? like i said, just cos you cannot see it drop on the bars on the top in a really strong signal area, you can see the drop in field test mode which shows more accurate figures..
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Location is a factor because some folks can afford to drop 30dB in signal and still have plenty of strength to make calls, others can't.

Hence, location matters. Not to the core issue, but to the impact that issue has on the user.
 
gloss said:
Location is a factor because some folks can afford to drop 30dB in signal and still have plenty of strength to make calls, others can't.

Hence, location matters. Not to the core issue, but to the impact that issue has on the user.
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a drop in signal is still a drop in signal, ergo it's not a factor. small white car said location is a factor in signal dropping, which, as you have agreed with, is not. now it would be a factor with dropping a call as that happens with when you're in a low signal in the first place. Like i said, Location is not a factor in signal dropping.
 
I think andythursby is right in saying location isn't a factor in terms of the signal actually dropping. The actual physics of it show that when someone touches the antenna the received signal is attenuated due to the detuning of the antenna, this is going to happen anywhere i.e when you touch the antenna the received signal is reduced wherever you are.

However this might not always be shown by a reduced number of bars due to the strength of the original signal and the difference in detuning caused by different people. So the effect the reduced signal has on people's actual use of the iPhone and the number of bars displayed may be affected by location. Which is what i think other people are arguing. So i think you guys are arguing two different things.

edit: andythursby oops sorry re-read your last post a realised i've just repeated what you said.
 
mroddjob said:
I think andythursby is right in saying location isn't a factor in terms of the signal actually dropping. The actual physics of it show that when someone touches the antenna the received signal is attenuated due to the detuning of the antenna, this is going to happen anywhere i.e when you touch the antenna the received signal is reduced wherever you are.

However this might not always be shown by a reduced number of bars due to the strength of the original signal and the difference in detuning caused by different people. So the effect the reduced signal has on people's actual use of the iPhone and the number of bars displayed may be affected by location. Which is what i think other people are arguing. So i think you guys are arguing two different things.

edit: andythursby oops sorry re-read your last post a realised i've just repeated what you said.
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thanks :) glad to see i'm not the only one that understands it :) the key and only factor with the iPhone 4 signal issue is the death grip.
 
Picked up our phones last week.

As expected a case completely negates any antenna issue. After using the EVO with a rubberized case holding the iPhone 4 naked was a new kind of annoying. An otterbox fixed both of these in one shot.

Tried biteSMS but still see no option for per contact sms tones. This sucks.

Saw tip above about sending MMS instead of SMS to make emailed text messages thread. This seems to be working so far. Thanks!

Proximity sensor is definitely slower than my EVO was and definitely worse than the iPhone 3G and 3GS I had before but it's not a big deal. Got used to the small lag after a day.

I miss the android back button but I'm getting used to iOS again.
 
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