Just curious, have any of the XP service packs had a charge, or have they all been free?
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iPod Doh! My new nano won't work with my Mac!
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Just curious, have any of the XP service packs had a charge, or have they all been free?
Could be many things. I think the biggest thing is QA - Apple would have to test all these new products against 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5. By dropping 10.3, they've eliminated 1/3 of the QA required.
As I mentioned before, I also suspect Apple thought Leopard would have been released by the time these new iPods were released, and their intent was to support the 2 latest releases.
It'd be nice if Apple made it possible for these new iPods to work with 10.3, even if it wasn't officially supported (Has anyone tried that, yet? Did the poster download iTunes 7.4 and try it?)
Bingo. And once Leopard ships, the number of people still using 10.3 is going to go down even further.
USB 2.0 required, there weren't any USB 2.0 machines in 2001, at least not until late 2001, and even then, only high end machines.
I know how you feel, I bought an iPhone and plugged it in to my mac only to find it doesn't work. Who'd have thought that OS 9 wouldn't be supported 
Okay, some of you don't get it, very soon, 10.5 will be the new OS, VERY VERY soon okay? It has long been Apple's tradition of only supporting two versions of OSX at a time. Besides, this will likely be the last iPod update until next year, so it was either now or later. I think it's good that Apple's getting it over with..
That's a very good point, thanks. However the least they could do is just write 10.4 on the box as a requirement while not restricting people who are running 10.3 If we have problems that's our own prerogative for running "unsupported" hardware.
That has to be one of the stupidest things I have heard on these boards. Would you like some wine with that.... oh forget it.
It should work, but honestly, would you even want to try it at a maximum of 1.5MB (not mega bit) per second trying to sync over 8gb of stuff?
I said it should, USB 1.1 is upward compatible with 2.0 (except for speed), so I don't see why it would not work, but there's a reason why Apple says 2.0, SPEED!!!
Here's link found it http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/faqs/answers/does-the-ipod-work-with-usb-11/
edit: though usb 1.1 may not be able to power the ipod, hmm
Here's link found it http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/faqs/answers/does-the-ipod-work-with-usb-11/
edit: though usb 1.1 may not be able to power the ipod, hmm
I wouldn't! That would take FOREVER!
Although I can confirm that the USB 1.1 DOES work. But jeez, goodluck to those who try to survive with that.
Since your wife has 10.4 and you use it all the time, couldnt you just use her computer for the time being?
You sir are the few, everyone else is the many. The many will be upgrading to Leopard in a few weeks, and you will again be the few.
That being said... The reason to update the OS, on a Mac at least, are legion, including security, stability, and speed. With MS each one of those gets worse with each upgrade, but I swear, that with each OS X Update my computer gets faster, plus it gives me an excuse to wipe my HD and reload my programs, cleaning up the gunk that gets in there.
Solution to your problem: Install Tiger.
Also, people say that everything on a Mac just works... That's true, as long as your system's software is UP-TO-DATE!!!!!
SMEG,
TEG
Waahhh
The OP is starting to sound like a big baby. Should you have asked questions before buying? YES. It's your responsibility. You could be running Mac OS 9 for all Apple knows. The website even mentions the system requirements.
Stop making these "I will switch to Windows and Zune" threats, you are just whining. Windows customers go through more compatibility crap than Macs yet that doesn't stop people from using Windows.
Apple isn't forcing you to do anything. It's your choice to buy the new iPod and it's your choice not to upgrade to Tiger or Leopard but understand something that computers outdate the day you take them out of the box.
Go ahead and switch to Windows (because you are mad at Apple), Vista isn't compatible with a lot of XP's software and XP is getting the boot in favor of new software and hardware designed for Vista only.
The OP is starting to sound like a big baby. Should you have asked questions before buying? YES. It's your responsibility. You could be running Mac OS 9 for all Apple knows. The website even mentions the system requirements.
Stop making these "I will switch to Windows and Zune" threats, you are just whining. Windows customers go through more compatibility crap than Macs yet that doesn't stop people from using Windows.
Apple isn't forcing you to do anything. It's your choice to buy the new iPod and it's your choice not to upgrade to Tiger or Leopard but understand something that computers outdate the day you take them out of the box.
Go ahead and switch to Windows (because you are mad at Apple), Vista isn't compatible with a lot of XP's software and XP is getting the boot in favor of new software and hardware designed for Vista only.
The Zune thing was a joke. The Windows thing was to point out that Apple supports Windows OS all the way back to 2001, but Mac OS only back two years. If I want to use the latest Apple products with minimal upgrade costs over the years, the sensible route is to buy a PC.
Why does Apple choose not to display the system requirements anywhere in their store? They know a large percentage of users won't be able to use the products, so why not put a sign up somewhere? If the boxes were on display, people could pick them up and look at them, but they aren't.
The one thing I don't get is that you've been on this forum for like 4 years (so you obviously are "into" Apple stuff - news, rumors, updates, etc) yet you don't really bother to check system requirements on anything? I mean, I'm fairly confident it was in the Keynote AND there was at least one discussion about it in this very forum. I wouldn't have bothered to check, but then again I'm running the current OS so I can be guaranteed that the OS will not be the limiting factor. You, however, are running an older OS - regardless of how old it is still not up-to-date - so I would think that you would at least think to ask someone about this or look into it for yourself. Back in my PC days whenever a new piece of software came out and I knew my computer was a year or two old I always checked to see how it would work. That's software, I know, but the fact remains that if you're using something that is a year or two old AND not up-to-date it's probably not a bad idea to look into these things.
Right or wrong, they expect you to be a wise consumer (was going to say intelligent, but this could happen to people of any intelligence level) and read the packaging before purchase. I always read the packaging, and if doesn't explictly state that it will work for me I investigate the product before purchase. Actually I investigate every tech purchase before purchase anyway.
As fot the box not being on display, when I bought the iPhone I was handed the box before purchace and it allowed me to read it.
Just a thought
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I have to agree with the OP on this one.
I fully understand that from a development standpoint, you have to cut ties with the old OS and move forward at some point. However, we are not talking about XP and the millions of developers, programs, hardware, etc. We are talking about Apple allowing the iPod to have the appropriate drivers. His mac already has iTunes on it.
So extending the support of the iPod to work with Tiger is not unreasonable. His mac will run the latest version of iTunes, so why shouldn't he be able to use the latest and greatest iPod?
I fully understand that from a development standpoint, you have to cut ties with the old OS and move forward at some point. However, we are not talking about XP and the millions of developers, programs, hardware, etc. We are talking about Apple allowing the iPod to have the appropriate drivers. His mac already has iTunes on it.
So extending the support of the iPod to work with Tiger is not unreasonable. His mac will run the latest version of iTunes, so why shouldn't he be able to use the latest and greatest iPod?