Donald Trump Calls on Apple to 'Step Up to the Plate' and Unlock iPhones Used by Florida Mass Shooter

[26139]

I’m impressed with your slithery ability to change the topic from your idiotic post saying that YOU would be ok with having YOUR phone looked at.... if Nancy Pelosi & all her buddies would as well. That makes zero sense! Are you an important political figure? No? Then how tf does that equate??
Instead of replying, taking a high ground or anything... you get hyper insulting of me, whilst wrapping yourself tightly in some victim garb.

I live in Florida, btw.... & work outdoors- so your silly little attempt at a barb comes nowhere NEAR landing.
Sheesh- at least I only pointed out that your words make no sense. I didn’t go all aggro & go after you personally, by making some bizarre unsubstantiated wild guesses about your lifestyle, to sidestep the convo entirely!

...could you two maybe take this to DMs instead of polluting the thread? Thanks.

 

[coolfactor]

Just like sci-fi predicts the future, so do some nursery rhymes...

Trumpty Dumpty sat on his Wall.
Trumpty Dumpty had a great Fall...
(you know the rest)
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Right. There are no back doors.

So you think they are lying to the world when they say there are no back doors?

And this glass is half empty.

 

[Justanotherfanboy]

...could you two maybe take this to DMs instead of polluting the thread? Thanks.

Np. Apologies for off-topic convo!

 

[coachgq]

Not much. I was being called out on my grammar, spelling, etc...

...could you two maybe take this to DMs instead of polluting the thread? Thanks.

good point. I’m done. I let it go too far.

 

[jlc1978]

Unlocking the phone of a criminal in a "one off" situation...I agree.
But don't show the FBI how to do it.
Do it for them and let them look.
Telling them how to do it = slippery slope.

Once you do it and they know you can they effectively can request a court force you to do it agaon if you refuse. No need to show them how, just that you can.

This is childish. He is able to invite the CEO to the White House, but not get on the phone to have this conversation with him? Putting Apple on blast on Twitter for protecting privacy by making it seem like they're protecting murderers does absolutely nothing except for making him look like an ass for targeting business in America.

that's his MO. He will always paly to his base.

 

[coachgq]

Once you do it and they know you can they effectively can request a court force you to do it agaon if you refuse. No need to show them how, just that you can.

Can we set some parameters? Can we agree on the fact that getting information from a criminal's phone is a good thing? I think once a person has committed a crime, they lose the right to privacy. But I am confused as to why the FBI won't just use the 3rd party methods available to them.



that's his MO. He will always paly to his base.

 

[fenderbass146]

Don't disagree with all of Trump's policies, but I stand with Apple on this one.

 

[buran-energia]

Huh? Just call the Israeli company that can "miraculously" unlock any iphone, while "none of the US three-letter agencies can". It's actually hilarious to see this show where a company in a country pretends to be above government's orders and NDA (right, Snowden?).

 

[itsamacthing]

Plenty of people who can open the phone, Trump knows that.

 

[techwhiz]

I just find it amazing that anyone can support Trump with his elementary attempts at name calling and insults.
He's an ignorant fool, but he knows how to play to his base.

 

[guerro]

"The Twitter rant..."

Biased much, Juli?

Having asked that, this issue is where Trump loses half his base.

 

[DocMultimedia]

I want an emoji to represent my feelings towards Donald J Trump.

I really don't think there is an emoji hideous enough to represent that. I often go with the orange clown + pile of crap, but it just doesn't do it justice.

 

[Treq]

"The Twitter rant..."

Biased much, Juli?

Having asked that, this issue is where Trump loses half his base.

Come on... there is no softer way to describe trump's twitter tirades. Tantrums, maybe... Hot takes? Adderall fueled verbal diarrhea... I don't know.

 

[germinator]

Wonder what's apple hiding they will not unlock a phone ? Google will in a heart beat.

That's why Google is an evil company.

 

[raghu8912]

If the phones can be broken into by third parties how secure can they really be? I don't get it.

Then why is DOJ, FBI, POTUS asking apple to unlock iPhone, they should just use theird party software/hardware to unlock iPhone.

 

[ctrlzone]

I like Apple's stance on the issue because user privacy is a must nowadays.

user privacy is non-existent nowadays.

 

[PugMaster]

Was this already posted somewhere?

Report: The FBI recently unlocked an iPhone 11 Pro with GrayKey, raising more doubts about the Pensacola case - 9to5Mac

As Apple stands firm against requests to break iPhone encryption, many people have questioned why the FBI needs Apple’s help in the first place. There are plenty of tools available from third-party companies that are more than capable of unlocking the iPhone 5 and iPhone 7 used by the Pensacola...

ww.9to5mac.com

The FBI unlocked an iPhone 11 Pro. They don't need Apple's help to unlock anything. All they want is their freaking golden master access key.

 

[Lancer]

Maybe Apple should open up the phones of all crooks, starting with the Don himself!

 

[NMBob]

Then why is DOJ, FBI, POTUS asking apple to unlock iPhone, they should just use theird party software/hardware to unlock iPhone.

Right. I guess everyone just needs to see their name in the newspaper.
Oh, now it looks like they do have a box that can get into IPhone 11's (GreyKey).

 

[H2SO4]

No, they are suspected criminals who died before they went to trial.
You haven’t officially committed a crime until you’ve been convicted of such, it’s all allegations.
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What has Apple lied about in the past?
What expertise do you have that makes you certain a product can be reverse engineered by those who designed it?

So seems it’s been done without the help of Apple, (even though Apple didn’t have the ability to do it right?).

FBI Successfully Unlocks iPhone 11 Pro in Ohio, Casting Doubt on Claims it Needs Apple's Help in Florida Mass Shooter Case

New questions have been raised about the FBI's latest request that Apple break its iPhone encryption, after Forbes uncovered a search warrant...

www.macrumors.com

 

[dewski]

The point is Apple can’t do it. That’s how they designed it.

Well that is just BS as we all know it.

 

[Bandaman]

Well that is just BS as we all know it.

Nope.

 

[jlc1978]

Can we set some parameters? Can we agree on the fact that getting information from a criminal's phone is a good thing?

While it is, how it is done is a very different issue.

I think once a person has committed a crime, they lose the right to privacy.

That is a very dangerous path to take.

When do you stop forfeiting rights when accused of a crime? How about search and seizure? If you are suspected of a crime why not forfeit your right to have a warrant and just let authorities come in take whatever they want?

Or should the President be allowed to use executive privilege to withhold information, since he has been accused of crime?

But I am confused as to why the FBI won't just use the 3rd party methods available to them.

I would guess it would be to make it easier to argue Apple should do it in other cases as well.

 

[26139]

Well that is just BS as we all know it.

Who knows this?
How do they know this?
What proof do they have?
Why do you assume such?

 

[HeadphoneAddict]

I forgot there was a duplicate thread on this topic and posted this news there, then saw it made it here first.

The FBI Can Unlock an iPhone 11 Pro Max, So Why Does It Need Apple’s Help?

As U.S. politicians and lawmakers continue to turn up the heat on Apple for its stance on encryption, making hyperbolic statements that it’s being

www.idropnews.com