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I'm still wondering why one would have an air in the tv room, and a mini in the living room. Jesh, some folks just can't get enough I guess.
 
Posters who believe their preferences are 'facts' always tend to amuse me
Especially when they get incensed when someone dares to disagree with them
They quickly change from champion of the truth to misunderstood martyr, a transition I always enjoy
 
Any criticism of any Apple product or policy on a Mac forum is going touch a nerve, due to the religious-like relationship many users have with Apple.

If the original poster had praised the Retina Mini, everyone in the church choir would be smiling and patting him on the back.

Members might ask themselves....

Why is it wrong for the OP to proclaim people should not buy an Apple product based on his personal experience, but....

It would be perfectly OK for the OP to proclaim people should buy an Apple product based on his personal experience?

Who cares about the Retina Mini? Not me. Apple community culture is far more interesting.


:confused: People took issue with the unequivocal statement that "the Retina Mini is not worth it" and that people who bought it "didn't care" or were "colorblind." No one is saying it's "wrong" to prefer the iPad Air over the iPad mini, or vice versa.
 
I suggest that each reader creates the tone of the thread within their own mind. I read the same OP as you did, and I didn't experience any tone problem.

What we're seeing now is another classic property of Apple culture.

Whatever is wrong, it's always the user's fault.

Therefore, if some readers are experiencing a tone problem, it must be the fault of the original poster. The original poster is clearly using mind control techniques to take control of our brains and force us to experience the thread in a tonally flawed manner.

And now he is forcing me to become his public defender!!! HEEELLLLPPPPPPP!!!!!! :)

And now you're presenting your opinion as pure fact, and insulting the OP because you disagree with him.

Products don't have egos, it's ok to bash them, they don't mind. :)

I have not presented any opinion as fact or insulted anyone, talk about twisting words! You are attempting to defend the defenseless here by twisting words to a meaning they had no reference to, you appear to have read the OP's first post in a totally different manner to everyone else who has posted in here? Why is that?
 
I have both the retina mini and the air and honestly I prefer the mini. Looks more natural.
 
Sorry folks but what ever all you colour blinded apple fans think, it has been proven and it is fact, the mini colours are no where as nice as the air. :)

thread closed have a nice day:p
 
Hi Ronnie
Do you just enjoy comparing both iPad Air and rMini than to enjoy playing games or reading stuff? I didn't know comparing colors really very important. :apple:
 
Sorry folks but what ever all you colour blinded apple fans think, it has been proven and it is fact, the mini colours are no where as nice as the air. :)

thread closed have a nice day:p

I certainly wouldn't disagree with you. However, the Air is a bigger and more expensive device, which is what swayed me to keep the retina Mini. However, it appears you value screen colours over size and price so it sounds like the Air was the better choice for you.
 
Posters who believe their preferences are 'facts' always tend to amuse me
Especially when they get incensed when someone dares to disagree with them
They quickly change from champion of the truth to misunderstood martyr, a transition I always enjoy

are you the mentalist:p

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I actually check the jeans that I buy, before I buy them, to see if the mini fits. I use the rMini almost naked with only a Skinome skin on the back, and that's why it fits in most pants back pockets.
If your gonna start an Apple bashing thread on an Apple pro site, you gotta expect for folks to jump in. Be honest, isn't that what it's all about? I don't own Apple stock and don't feel like I'm a sheep. I've bought, used and enjoyed Android tablets and I keep my son-in-law's HTC Thunderbolt running for him cause I'm a bit of a geek and he isn't. But ios is so much smoother and I'm not always screwing around in settings with my Apple devices. Sure I'm bound to jump in. See ya next time you want to start a similar thread :p

just what i need clothes advice.:)
 
:confused: People took issue with the unequivocal statement that "the Retina Mini is not worth it" and that people who bought it "didn't care" or were "colorblind."

Your words above are an unequivocal statement presuming to be fact, when actually they are just an expression of your own opinion.

People took issue because the OP was perceived to be attacking Apple. If the OP had made exactly the same kind of statements which were instead complimentary of the Retina Mini, nobody would have taken issue.
 
Your words above are an unequivocal statement presuming to be fact, when actually they are just an expression of your own opinion.

People took issue because the OP was perceived to be attacking Apple. If the OP had made exactly the same kind of statements which were instead complimentary of the Retina Mini, nobody would have taken issue.

While I haven't replied thus far I'd like to take issue with you opinion that everyone was just defending Apple.
1. The OP actually wasn't attacking Apple they were attacking the iPad mini, and in my opinion the people that choose to use it.
2. As I previously suggested it was my perception that the OP was attacking people who prefer the mini to the air.
If the OP had said 'I think it sucks that the mini doesn't have the same colour range as the air, and Apple dropped the ball by not making that happen." I would have completely agreed. Instead the OP said that anyone who prefers the mini must be colour blind. Completely ignoring that there are many other reasons why a person may prefer the mini and that colour range might not be that important to them.

In short the OP annoyed me, not because he was attacking Apple, but because it felt like he was attacking me.
 
"that people who bought it "didn't care" or were "colorblind."


Let's think about that statement. It does sound mean at first, but it's true. We all acknowledge a color difference. If you like the rmini anyway it means you simply don't care or that other factors are more important. If you're colorblind then of course it doesn't matter.

So yeah, it's true. He maybe should have mentioned other factors of why people would like the rmini despite the colors but technically everything he's said is true.
 
In short the OP annoyed me, not because he was attacking Apple, but because it felt like he was attacking me.

Here's the original post again.

Probably should of titled this don't buy a retina mini if you own a iPad Air or have used one.

Nothing offensive here.

In comparison whites are not white and colours are washed out and have about 50% less colour than the Air.

Not an attack on Apple or fellow forum members

Even just the apps look crap in comparison.

Not an attack on Apple or fellow forum members

If you are happy with your mini you either don't care, are colour blind, the size is more important, or have never used a Air.

The mildest most obscure insult I have seen in 20 years of regular forum use. The original poster needs to go back to insult school, and take the class again. :)

This version is not worth the $$.

An opinion expressed.

Bring on the mini fans but you can't argue against the facts.

An invitation to dialog, and a claim that the poster's opinion is correct, which is why anybody has any opinion, they think it's correct.

I stand by my own claim. If the poster had asserted IT IS A FACT that the product in question was wonderful, and that you'd have to be a fool not to see that etc, no controversy at all.
 
Here's the original post again.



Nothing offensive here.



Not an attack on Apple or fellow forum members



Not an attack on Apple or fellow forum members



The mildest most obscure insult I have seen in 20 years of regular forum use. The original poster needs to go back to insult school, and take the class again. :)



An opinion expressed.



An invitation to dialog, and a claim that the poster's opinion is correct, which is why anybody has any opinion, they think it's correct.

I stand by my own claim. If the poster had asserted IT IS A FACT that the product in question was wonderful, and that you'd have to be a fool not to see that etc, no controversy at all.

I would like to point out that I said he hadn't insulted Apple, and even you had to agree that he insulted the people who prefer the mini, whether you view that insult as mild or not, does not stop it from being an insult.

What got my back up was not the implication that the mini isn't a perfect device, it isn't a perfect device, I agree that the mini should have the same colour range as the air.

What annoyed me was the implication that I must be deficient to prefer it. It didn't make me feel I had to defend Apple. It made me feel I had to defend myself.

I again want to point out that if the OP had simply stated that the colour gamut should be the same on the mini as on the air, I would totally be on his side.
 
It made me feel I had to defend myself.

I suppose this is another thread, but it does raise the question of why any of us feel the need to defend ourselves in this medium.

So some completely anonymous person I know nothing about with the screen name Snarkydog27 said something uncomplimentary about the other anonymous person with the made up screen name Felasco.

OMG, the fantasy identity Snarkydog27 is arguing with the fantasy identity Felasco!! :)

Welcome to the brave new world brought to you by companies like Apple! Confusing sometimes, eh?
 
People buy the Mini for its portability. Not because it has the most accurate color reproduction.
 
Isn't this a opinion website. Guess if you are that big a Apple fan there is no complaining.

And you are the one who decides what this site is for? I didn't think so. Just so you know, your comment about "isn't worth it" was your opinion, so if this site isn't for opinions, get out.

White is not even white.

Also slower.

At this point, you are trolling. The CPU is about 100 MHz slower, which means that you will see no difference.

No difference in battery usage.

Comments in red above ^^^
 
Robster's always telling people what kind of experience they should be having.

Nobody cares, dude.

3 pages of posters do:p

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I would like to point out that I said he hadn't insulted Apple, and even you had to agree that he insulted the people who prefer the mini, whether you view that insult as mild or not, does not stop it from being an insult.

What got my back up was not the implication that the mini isn't a perfect device, it isn't a perfect device, I agree that the mini should have the same colour range as the air.

What annoyed me was the implication that I must be deficient to prefer it. It didn't make me feel I had to defend Apple. It made me feel I had to defend myself.

I again want to point out that if the OP had simply stated that the colour gamut should be the same on the mini as on the air, I would totally be on his side.

Strange you would have to defend yourself over a iPad, but whatever:)

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Comments in red above ^^^

Typical one eyed apple fan answer. Trolling:rolleyes:

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People buy the Mini for its portability. Not because it has the most accurate color reproduction.

Mmm, guess people will buy anything with a Apple on it then. Bit sad really.

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"that people who bought it "didn't care" or were "colorblind."


Let's think about that statement. It does sound mean at first, but it's true. We all acknowledge a color difference. If you like the rmini anyway it means you simply don't care or that other factors are more important. If you're colorblind then of course it doesn't matter.

So yeah, it's true. He maybe should have mentioned other factors of why people would like the rmini despite the colors but technically everything he's said is true.

Thanks, and some of the response prove it i.e., bought cause its smaller and will put up with the colour difference, so don't care. If someone has both and can't see a difference then maybe they are colour blind:)

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Here's the original post again.



Nothing offensive here.



Not an attack on Apple or fellow forum members



Not an attack on Apple or fellow forum members



The mildest most obscure insult I have seen in 20 years of regular forum use. The original poster needs to go back to insult school, and take the class again. :)



An opinion expressed.



An invitation to dialog, and a claim that the poster's opinion is correct, which is why anybody has any opinion, they think it's correct.

I stand by my own claim. If the poster had asserted IT IS A FACT that the product in question was wonderful, and that you'd have to be a fool not to see that etc, no controversy at all.

thanks for the explanation:)
 
Sorry folks but what ever all you colour blinded apple fans think, it has been proven and it is fact, the mini colours are no where as nice as the air. :)



I had to register just to post this. I do not care about the washed out colors as the size is more important to me. This does not mean that the washed out colors are not important to you and I accept that, but accept the fact that I simply do not care that the colors are washed out. This does not make me a color blind apple fan, it just makes me me.
 
I had to register just to post this. I do not care about the washed out colors as the size is more important to me. This does not mean that the washed out colors are not important to you and I accept that, but accept the fact that I simply do not care that the colors are washed out. This does not make me a color blind apple fan, it just makes me me.

Wow i feel honoured that someone would register just to have a crack at me.

Welcome the the flame throwers thread :)

Maybe Apple should of made a black and white mini for half the price, it would sell like hot cakes, seeing as all anyone cares about is size:eek:
 
Maybe Apple should of made a black and white mini for half the price, it would sell like hot cakes, seeing as all anyone cares about is size:eek:


What do you not get about people having different requirements for a device than what your needs are? Come on dude, last time I checked most of the world is free to choose what they feel works best for them. Stop the bashing already on people's free choice, please, for the love of god get that thru your head, please.
 
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I have the air but not the mini so I can't give my subjective opinion but if you look at displaymate or anandtech's review, they clearly mention the significant gamut difference between the two.
My gripe is the mirror like glass panel and the miserly 1gb of ram on this otherwise fantastic ipad. I'm sure the latter will be corrected in the next iteration. Oh well.
 
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