Don't buy AppleCare on Ebay

[Son of Matrix]

Doesn't it say on the box about keeping the box and contents for future reference, or something like that?

According to http://images.apple.com/legal/applec...an_Asia_en.pdf page 3,
"Keep your Plan Confirmation document and the original sales receipt for your Covered Equipment and your Plan. Proof of purchase may be required if there is any question as to your product’s eligibility for Plan coverage."

 

[scubasteve03]

Wish me luck.

I bought my Applecare off of Ebay for $90 from someone without offering a box. It showed the box on the auction, but when I looked into it he said that the doesnt send the box, just the number. Crap! This doesn't look good. I used my paypal account, so there is a LITTLE protection. Wow, this was not very smart on my end. I only had 2 weeks left until my warranty ended and I am crazy broke, so I took my chances. How many people did the same thing as I did? Is everyone feeling bad as I am about this situation? And advice? Everything went through on Apple's end and they sent my all my documentation.

 

[eidrunner247]

I bought my Applecare off of Ebay for $90 from someone without offering a box. It showed the box on the auction, but when I looked into it he said that the doesnt send the box, just the number. Crap! This doesn't look good. I used my paypal account, so there is a LITTLE protection. Wow, this was not very smart on my end. I only had 2 weeks left until my warranty ended and I am crazy broke, so I took my chances. How many people did the same thing as I did? Is everyone feeling bad as I am about this situation? And advice? Everything went through on Apple's end and they sent my all my documentation.

Scubasteve - it's not going to work out on your end. If you can't get your money back, you're SOL. Did you check this thread before making your purchase? If so, I'm incredulous. If not, many others have done the same thing as you - even experienced Ebay-ers. In the long run - 90 bucks isn't much. But, you (and we) all roll the dice and hope we'll never need applecare anyway.

 

[HBOC]

I bought my Applecare off of Ebay for $90 from someone without offering a box. It showed the box on the auction, but when I looked into it he said that the doesnt send the box, just the number. Crap! This doesn't look good. I used my paypal account, so there is a LITTLE protection. Wow, this was not very smart on my end. I only had 2 weeks left until my warranty ended and I am crazy broke, so I took my chances. How many people did the same thing as I did? Is everyone feeling bad as I am about this situation? And advice? Everything went through on Apple's end and they sent my all my documentation.

I feel bad for you. But I mean something had to run through your head, seeing AC for $90! That is $150 LESS then the student discount at Apple.com or in the Apple Store. People want to save as much money as they can, and sometimes they look past the obvious signs ( i.e.; no box, only $90, email code only..) and don't realize that they are gambling. Yes, you may get a repair of two in (maybe even 6), but there is a HIGH chance that you are effed. I just can't believe that Apple doesn't take action.

I am surprised that Macman hasn't chimed in again. What is his reasoning for not sending the boxes, other than not having them

 

[katyoshi]

Since i bought applecare for my MBP from Macman812 from ebay, should I just go to the apple store since i'll be in town today and purchase a legit box with my student discount? It would be $239 from the apple store with my student discount. Am I wasting my money if I did this? I do plan on keeping this MBP pretty much forever or as long as I it is alive.

I wanna know the same thing for my 24" ACD as I already bought applecare from ebay from a seller with 500+ 100% positive feedbacks.

At least this time i bought my applecare from amazon themselves.

 

[guklein]

Since i bought applecare for my MBP from Macman812 from ebay, should I just go to the apple store since i'll be in town today and purchase a legit box with my student discount? It would be $239 from the apple store with my student discount. Am I wasting my money if I did this? I do plan on keeping this MBP pretty much forever or as long as I it is alive.

I wanna know the same thing for my 24" ACD as I already bought applecare from ebay from a seller with 500+ 100% positive feedbacks.

At least this time i bought my applecare from amazon themselves.

I don't think so. Reading the posts I did not find anyone complaining about MacMan812. Just one complained but his issue was solved.

 

[HBOC]

I don't think so. Reading the posts I did not find anyone complaining about MacMan812. Just one complained but his issue was solved.

I just don't understand why he DOESN'T have the boxes??? I bought AC from the Apple Store today, and they HAVE the boxes.

I am looking at the box right now (I have never paid any attention to the AC at the Apple Store before today) and there is a SERIAL number ON THE BOX and there is the registration number on the instructions page, that is included with the Techtool Deluxe cd and the AC protection plan booklet.

on the registration paper (instructions), it says (and i am taking a section of the paragraph) Apple will provide you with your Plan Confirmation. Keep your Plan Confirmation, the original Apple product sales receipt, and the AppleCAre Protection Plan receipt. Apple may require proof of purchase if questions arise about your product's eligibility for coverage under the AppleCare Protection Plan.

So you not only have to have the SALES receipt, you need the AC Protection Plan receipt. I am assuming that this is the instruction (the instructions from where I just quoted) sheet that has the registration number sticker.

I also was chatting with one of the geniuses about the Ebay codes, and he said that Apple was working on something to combat this. I'm wondering if they are changing the way you register..?

 

[JFreak]

I also bought mine in last month & I have no problem.

Me too, last week for my MP. All good.

 

[marzy]

My dad bought his apple care off ebay and the cinema display (it wasn't on the apple care) he rang apple and they put it on the apple care and they replaced it with out asking for a receipt just need the S/N. I don't think they expect people to keep that stuff. Im sure if you said you lost it they wouldn't care. But some are dogy and even tho apple will say it's ok, 3 4 months down the track apple will reject it when they find out that the apple care is dodgy.

 

[AlienSexGod]

I don't think so. Reading the posts I did not find anyone complaining about MacMan812. Just one complained but his issue was solved.

lol are you MacMan in disguise?

Read the thread mate ... MacMan812 is a criminal selling counterfeit codes from a key generator ... if he wasn't he would have answered my most reasonable questions that any legit dealer would have no problem with answering.

 

[mscriv]

lol are you MacMan in disguise? Read the thread mate ...

What a moronic question/statement! A newbie to the forums asks an established member with 6502 status if he/she is posing as someone else. I understand your passionate about this topic as I have read your many posts, but don't go insulting everyone who has a different opinion than you. Though debate is encouraged on MR we try to be respectful toward others.

 

[HBOC]

Hi,

I also bought mine in last month & I have no problem.

Me too, last week for my MP. All good.

That's the thing. Just because it went through a whole 7 days ago, doesn't mean that someone like myself, who walks into an Apple Store and purchases a legit sealed boxed copy with all the contents in the box and has receipts, registers the AC, and then that same number has already been registered. There is then a problem where Apple will ask for proof from BOTH parties for receipts and such when the repairs are needed on said serial number.

Im not saying MacMan is a thief, but it is shady that he doesn't have the AC box, when there IS INFO on the box that is needed. Also, if I am paying money for a product, I want the whole product. I don't want to have to download the techtools that are included in the box.

 

[guklein]

lol are you MacMan in disguise?

Read the thread mate ... MacMan812 is a criminal selling counterfeit codes from a key generator ... if he wasn't he would have answered my most reasonable questions that any legit dealer would have no problem with answering.

Show me one (just one) in this thread that bought from him and had problems with AppleCare.

I think there was one with a small problem and it was solved promptly.

PS) I am not saying buy from eBay is safe. I read this while thread twice and I am just saying nobody had problems with this man (MacMan812).

 

[teerexx52]

Show me one (just one) in this thread that bought from him and had problems with AppleCare.

I think there was one with a small problem and it was solved promptly.

PS) I am not saying buy from eBay is safe. I read this while thread twice and I am just saying nobody had problems with this man (MacMan812).

I bought one from him too. What's done is done. Next time I will buy right from the Apple Store but I'm beyond the 1 year period so I have to let it ride.

 

[HBOC]

I bought one from him too. What's done is done. Next time I will buy right from the Apple Store but I'm beyond the 1 year period so I have to let it ride.

Just because you bought from eBay doesn't mean you are hosed. I hope for your sake you are ok. I mean I didn;t want to pay 2x as much as the iMac or Mac Pro owners do for AC, but i "needed' a laptop

 

[AlienSexGod]

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What a moronic question/statement! A newbie to the forums asks an established member with 6502 status if he/she is posing as someone else. I understand your passionate about this topic as I have read your many posts, but don't go insulting everyone who has a different opinion than you. Though debate is encouraged on MR we try to be respectful toward others.

I would point out that I asked a question.... I didn't make a statement. It's is entirely possible, though unlikely, that MacMan's alt is guklein. I mean here I am an AlienSexGod ... for all you know I have a main alt here with 2000 posts. As ASG I like to be outrageous, to be outrageous and thought provoking is ASG's job (some ask if I really think I am an Alien SexGod... ajajaja yeah right!) and because I am outraged why many of you are supportive of this guy.... Clearly MacMan Ate One Too sells key generated codes... maybe his key generator has better algorithms than the Chinese but he is clearly selling stolen goods! He is laughing to the bank that you Ate One Too! No cost of supply or overheads but for evilbay fees!

Also how many people that may have had their code discovered as fake after the 3 months evilbay and paypal clawback window actually bothered to come here and share their embarassing mistake? F all it seems and for good reason ... people can't be bothered and they don't like sharing their humiliation particularly when there is no recourse for them.

Show me one (just one) in this thread that bought from him and had problems with AppleCare.

I think there was one with a small problem and it was solved promptly.

PS) I am not saying buy from eBay is safe. I read this while thread twice and I am just saying nobody had problems with this man (MacMan812).

If I was mistaken regarding a specific complaint here about MacMan I apologise but I reiterate MacMan812 is selling stolen goods based on the inside knowledge, arguments and unanswered questions previously made by myself and Music Producer in this thread. No rational nor legal explanation has been given .... because there is none.....

 

[DewGuy1999]

New point to consider...

A new point to consider when buying AppleCare on eBay:

Why doesn't Apple tell you this? (or their box) [AppleCare]

Apparently if the AppleCare is from a country other than the one you reside in, Apple won't provide coverage.

 

[mac&cheesey]

How long is this going to be tolerated??

lol are you MacMan in disguise?

Read the thread mate ... MacMan812 is a criminal selling counterfeit codes from a key generator ... if he wasn't he would have answered my most reasonable questions that any legit dealer would have no problem with answering.

If I was mistaken regarding a specific complaint here about MacMan I apologise but I reiterate MacMan812 is selling stolen goods based on the inside knowledge, arguments and unanswered questions previously made by myself and Music Producer in this thread. No rational nor legal explanation has been given .... because there is none....

I'm not going to get into some drawn out debate with you about the law. It is clear from your posts that you have no grasp of it.

I will however, point out the obvious... MacMan812's choice to not answer your questions does not automatically mean that he is selling counterfeit nor stolen goods. Perhaps he is refusing to answer you because it is none of your business. Perhaps he is refusing to answer because he doesn't feel like it. Or perhaps he is refusing to answer you for the same reason I would; because I don't like your tone, your message or the way you spout off about legal fact when it's clear you lack both proof and even the vaguest understanding of the law or it's application.

I don't blame you for wanting to sound the alarm about an issue where you feel people could be taken advantage of. Bravo for that. But the style in which you do it is distasteful and below board.

Let me be clear: I have no idea about the legitimacy of MacMan812's goods. But from anything you've evidenced in this thread, neither do you. Therefore, you have no solid ground upon which to call someone a thief, a counterfeiter and a criminal. You are within reason to raise your suspicions and voice your concern. But to flat out state such allegations as fact without proof is out of line.

A mod on this forum would do well to show everyone that such behaviour will not be tolerated and ban you for a few days.

Again, I'm not saying whether you're right or wrong; don't confuse the issue. What I'm saying is that you have no proof so you can't state opinion as fact.

 

[Music_Producer]

Again, I'm not saying whether you're right or wrong; don't confuse the issue. What I'm saying is that you have no proof so you can't state opinion as fact.

The fact that:

1.Two Apple resellers are chiming in here and stating that it is IMPOSSIBLE to sell AppleCare for these ridiculous prices. We have direct access to Apple pricing through their distributors. Even Apple EDU pricing is significantly higher than these 'code only' prices.

2. There is no 'code only' product available for purchase from Apple or their distributors. An AppleCare sold *with* hardware is different, however AppleCare by itself comes in a sealed box with the proper documentation.

3. I posted a screenshot from a Chinese Auction place showing AC selling for $30-$60 - volume purchase from these shoddy sellers can net a hacked AC for $20 easily.

If all these don't provide sufficient proof, uh, then I don't know what else to tell you. If anyone on this forum worked in law enforcement then they could perhaps start an investigation, get a search warrant and check it out for proper solid evidence. I don't have the authority, neither does anyone posting here. But to ignore reasonable and beyond sufficient proof is silly.

We are not stating 'opinions' here. If a authorized Rolex reseller came on here and said that person abc on ebay cannot sell a rolex for $750 because the reseller's cost is $1499 (straight from Rolex at the highest discounted pricing level) and person abc was selling the watch without a box, or warranty - lol, I'm sure most here would still buy the watch from ebay seller abc.

But at least you're getting a fake watch! With this fake AC, you don't get anything! Well, maybe a few months of peace knowing you saved $80 on a product that won't work after the code is useless.

 

[HBOC]

The fact that:

1.Two Apple resellers are chiming in here and stating that it is IMPOSSIBLE to sell AppleCare for these ridiculous prices. We have direct access to Apple pricing through their distributors. Even Apple EDU pricing is significantly higher than these 'code only' prices.

2. There is no 'code only' product available for purchase from Apple or their distributors. An AppleCare sold *with* hardware is different, however AppleCare by itself comes in a sealed box with the proper documentation.

3. I posted a screenshot from a Chinese Auction place showing AC selling for $30-$60 - volume purchase from these shoddy sellers can net a hacked AC for $20 easily.

If all these don't provide sufficient proof, uh, then I don't know what else to tell you. If anyone on this forum worked in law enforcement then they could perhaps start an investigation, get a search warrant and check it out for proper solid evidence. I don't have the authority, neither does anyone posting here. But to ignore reasonable and beyond sufficient proof is silly.

We are not stating 'opinions' here. If a authorized Rolex reseller came on here and said that person abc on ebay cannot sell a rolex for $750 because the reseller's cost is $1499 (straight from Rolex at the highest discounted pricing level) and person abc was selling the watch without a box, or warranty - lol, I'm sure most here would still buy the watch from ebay seller abc.

But at least you're getting a fake watch! With this fake AC, you don't get anything! Well, maybe a few months of peace knowing you saved $80 on a product that won't work after the code is useless.

WELL SAID!

and maybe MacMan isn't responding because he has no excuse for not having the boxes, and code only?

 

[Ice Dragon]

This topic saved me from getting scammed. Normally I have no problem at all with eBay at all though it's a good thing I didn't fall for anything and end up looking foolish. I'll stick with Plan A which is to purchase it retail.

 

[jrusch]

The fact that:

1.Two Apple resellers are chiming in here and stating that it is IMPOSSIBLE to sell AppleCare for these ridiculous prices. We have direct access to Apple pricing through their distributors. Even Apple EDU pricing is significantly higher than these 'code only' prices.

I'm confused, maybe because I'm not an Apple reseller. But couldn't a reseller buy a bunch of ACs. And maybe go out of business. Have a going out of business sale. And sell them for, oh I don't know, maybe $50 each. Someone could buy them and resell them on eBay. And not include the boxes to have no shipping costs. Or would that be IMPOSSIBLE?

 

[Music_Producer]

I'm confused, maybe because I'm not an Apple reseller. But couldn't a reseller buy a bunch of ACs. And maybe go out of business. Have a going out of business sale. And sell them for, oh I don't know, maybe $50 each. Someone could buy them and resell them on eBay. And not include the boxes to have no shipping costs. Or would that be IMPOSSIBLE?

Well firstly, a reseller can always return overstocked items - there are times when I've had stuff sitting around for more than a year and I've returned it back to the manufacturer to get a full credit. So the retailer wouldn't want to suffer a massive loss by selling AC at crazy prices.

However, let's suppose that the retailer does not want to deal with returns, shipping, etc - and just decides that he can take the loss and sells it at $50. There would be limited quantity for these though - 50, 80, maybe 100 units. I doubt any retailer stocking 1,000 units or more is going to sell them at such a big loss - that would translate to more than $100,000 in losses.

I've seen some listings where products are sold for low prices because the retailer is going out of business - usually there is a limited quantity of items.. and once they're gone, that's it. I bought a mac pro for $1299 once (retail was $2499) because the store was going out of business - I checked out the store - it was a proper store in CA, they had 3 mac pros which they were selling at a loss - needless to say they were gone in a few minutes!

These sellers have an unlimited supply of discounted AC - that's only possible by buying them from the chinese marketplaces.

 

[HBOC]

I sen the following person selling AC for $159, and asked him a few questions; like why there is no box, why just the code, etc etc. Gave him a link to this thread. No response. geng7892001 ... so that being said, I hope no one buys from him. Also, he is in Japan, I believe that will not work for people in the US, unless it is a stolen code from the US... sadly, he has sold 3...

 

[AlienSexGod]

I'm not going to get into some drawn out debate with you about the law. It is clear from your posts that you have no grasp of it.

Hey cheesy clearly you just believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty but don't grasp the reality of the actual application of law in first world countries when dealing with money that is not obtained legitimately... it is confiscated as proceeds of crime unless legitimate means can be establish ... no innocent until proven guilt stuff... it's gone asta la vista baby.

All I am saying is if he isn't willing to explain how it is possibly legitimate then well......

Sure am I a little outrageous in stating the obvious conclusion? .. sure
But that is part of my point ... I offered to publicly declare my legal name and address who I am here if MacMan812 does the same. He can come after me for slander but he won't because what I said is true and I would love the opportunity in court to prove it

MacMan812 and others hide behind an ebay id whilst they probably as reside in SE asia and you have no recourse on them......